Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 I ask for a suggestion . I felt a bad smell when i cleaned the molar tooth where i had separated roots. Dentist found an abscess and he drained it. He suggested me that it would be better to take an antibiotic to stop the infection. But when i told him that i never did take the antibiotic in my life, he decided that it would be better to wait for that and at the moment to act locally with corsodyl gel. I bought also a natural colluctory with tea tree end lemon oil. I do a mouth washes with himalayan salt or i put it locally. The bad smell has not totally desappeared. There is a residual. What to do more? I would to avoid the antibiotic,but i don't want to run risks formy tooth in precarious condition. Thanks. merevita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Dear merevita, One of the simplest remedies for your problem would be gargling with a mild decoction of triphala 2 to 3 times a day. This will take care of the infection and also strenghten the teeth and gums. However you will still need the help of the dentist if the abscess returns in order to drain it as it is a surgical procedure. Above procedure alongwith use of herbal toothpowder (if available or else you can use triphala powder also) if used daily will lead to a long term solution to your teeth problems. Cybervaidya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Thanks Cybervaidya How many minutes for decoction? Has the triphala to be fresh? I have a jar from some years. How long can the bad smell persist without risk before the assomption of antibiotic? May i avoid it? Now i do mouth washes also with sunflower oil with a drop of lemon essential oil. I am going to add triphala... Thanks merevita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 > merevita <merevita > tooth infection --- remedies > I felt a bad smell when i cleaned the molar tooth where i had > separated roots. > Dentist found an abscess and he drained it. > He suggested me that it would be better to take an antibiotic to stop > the infection. the problem is that dental bacteria can penetrate into the blood and infect the heart. if you choose not use antibiotics, you may want to take something to prevent/inhibit a blood infection. i use western herbs such as goldenseal and echinacea for this, but indian herbs such as bhunimba and katuka can be helpful too not all decay is problematic - you can have arrested decay - but this won't abscess or progress essential oils like ti-tree, clove and myrrh can be very helpful when applied topically, 2-3x/day i use this after a mouth wash prepared from a tincture of herbs like prickly ash, echinacea and barberry 1 tsp in a little water held in the mouth for 1 minute, 2-3x/day herbal powders aren't so good if you have any lesion because they can be too abrasive use these after lesions have healed, such as haritaki and vidanga, with a little licorice dental problems are a call to attend to your digestion and the nature of your diet Caldecott todd www.toddcaldecott.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Dear Merevita, There is no fixed duration for gargling. If you do it regularly for 2 minutes also it is more beneficial than doing it for 5 minutes sometimes occasionally. There may be many reasons for the bad smell apart from the infection. Since your dentist has drained the abscess, you should get relief from bad smell within a day or two. As Todd mentioned you may have to work on your digestive system also if you want complete freedom from bad smell. The freshness of herbal powder varies from item to item. However if it is for more than a year I would suggest you buy a fresh jar. Cybervaidya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 It is more simple for me to find western products. goldenseal ---WHAT IS that? I don't find it in the dictionnary. I USE from 10 days COLLUCTORY WITH TEA TREE OIL without results.It is 10 days ago that i had the abscess drained Now i am taking grape fruit solution. ---IN THE PREVIOUS MONTHS ( the problem was not there) I USED CRISTOPHER POWDER with lecorice , and my teeth now are not white :-(( My digestive system is good. The local problem is coming from the instable situation- I have a provisory crown from 4 years, Because after operation and separation of the roots ( mistake of previous dentist that pierced them) the operator decide not procede to close with a fixed tooth for the precarious situation of the roots. How many days can i wait for, before deciding to take the antibiotic that i would avoid? merevita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Be caarefull with Tea Tree Oil. There are reports emerging that Tea tree oil can cause skin sensitisation. The risks appear highest where old oils being applied to damaged skin consition. Therefore regular application of high concentrations even on normal skin is not wise. Research has shown that Tea tree oil causes no Irritation or Sensitisation at a 1% delution.* My Martin Watt from "A reference Guide to Precaustions in the use of Aromatic Extracts from Plants" Regards Cristian > I USE from 10 days COLLUCTORY WITH TEA TREE OIL without results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Dear Merita and Christian; I can share 2 relevant stories here, might be of help. Re Tea Tree (and other essential oils) due to most common growth and distillation conditions they are likely to have pollutants. Fats and oils - whether in the cow or the plants when they are being biologically constructed collect from the environment anything of lipid like structure, including the petrochemical pollutants, and concentrate them more than in the rest of the plant matter. I always advise my clients, if they have not begun organic, to start with fats, oils, dairy, like that for this reason. Also, most eoils are distilled at the international standard recipes for temperature and pressure and cook off many valuable bioconstituents, making them less valuable therapeutically. Therapeutic grade eoils are not reliably availble in stores in the west, and must usually be mail ordered. This as precursor to folloing story #1. A friend who is student of Ayurveda and many other healling arts, quite intuitive, and quite the researcher was searching for answers to nail fungus of long standing. His mother took shock treatment while pregnant with him, many difficulties to overcome! The fungus is deeply systemic. He had tried tea tree oil many times and said each time it "made my meridians burn" and had given this up. I offered him sample of therapeutic grade/organic and it did not give this negative experience. However the topical application only helped partially, used over long time. Back to dental deep in the bone/abcess, I beleive you need to be very careful and by this many days conversation should be in professional care. If it was me, I would have done something like my girlfriend Har Khar Khalsa when she was rooming with me on a retreat in the woods in Canada and needed to wait for an appointment. The topical application of (again therapeutic grade) clove oil on cotton swab should have been in oil dilution, her gums became very raw until we used myrrh oil the next day for that complication. I would be taking personally a strong antibiotic blend of herbs (and/or eoils in capsules, I have a particular blend tested highly antibacteria, antiviral and antifungal) and we used it at that time on her feet and under jaw 4X daily, along with fever support (peppermint oil), and she chose a total fast on water only (strong constitution, otherwise broths, diluted fruit juices etc are more appropriate). VERY IMPORTAnt also; at that time the ayurvedic clinic director advised her in the necessity of hot/cold compresses on the abcess every few hours, might have been at least 4 X daily, then a cold wet cloth wrapped around her kidneys at night (immediately bundled in warm bedclothes and tucked in) to support excretion of the toxins stimulated to move out with the topical/localized compresses, to avoid excess localized dumping of systemic toxins at the abcess site. As soon as we started the essential oils and comopresses, over night the abcess went down. But of course you don't stop there. She did not need to go into town for the medical appointment, but continued working in these ways for several days. You must attend to this immediately as a serious problem, in my opinion, and I have to ask you not to take this information as substitute for medical care. You are welcome to contact me regarding the essential oils. Martha 352 378-3660 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 > It is more simple for me to find western products. > goldenseal ---WHAT IS that? I don't find it in the dictionnary. goldenseal - Hydrastis canadensis use a tincture with echinacea (Echinacea angustifolia root), 20-30 drops each also use as a mouth rinse > Now i am taking grape fruit solution. graperfruit seed extract (nutribiotic, citracidal) is made with a preservative/antibiotic (either triclosan or similar) that is responsible for ALL of its antimicrobial properties - avoid it if you want to avoid taking antibiotics > How many days can i wait for, before deciding to take the antibiotic > that i would avoid? merevita, its best you should find a qualified practitioner in your area to help you... Caldecott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 >graperfruit seed extract (nutribiotic, citracidal) is made with a >preservative/antibiotic (either triclosan or similar) that is >responsible for ALL of its antimicrobial properties - avoid it if you >want to avoid taking antibiotics.. Four days i used it, nobody told me that,mmmmm Then did i take the antibiotic in the herboristic shop? similar to these we buy in pharmacy? Without information? I have noticed that the intestine is blocked. I did not understand why if it is a natural extract I give up it immediatly. ***** I use a sesam oil(30 ml) with lemon essential oil (organic)(2 drops) for massage gums and in the nostrils. I take also an enzymatic extract, made by an italian searcher, omeopatic medicin and iridologist. BN phitoplus composed by the most importants minerals and vitamines A,E and the group of B, EXTRACTED FROM THE MOUNTAINS herbs. My friend that studied omeopaty suggests me a nosode that i have ordered ---granuloma dentis injeel ---for injections below skin- It is good for all kind of teeth -gum infection .. If all that is not enough i will take hidrastis and echinacea as you tell °°°I have stopped the colluctory even that the quantity of tea tree oil is 0,5 % and also I have diluted 50% , but i felt that it is enough , no good sensation in the thorax. Thanks for all merevita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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