Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Respected Shri Gokul, I read your message and would like to bring certain points about the same to your notice. First , Madhwa Brahmins follow Madhwacharya. There are three Mutts Uttradhi Mutt, Raghavendra Swami Mutt and Vyasa Mutt. The Uttradhi mutt only only those Madhwa Brahmins who belong to the Uttradhi Mutt. That is not the case with Raghavendra Swami Mutt. Shri Raghavendra Swami is for everyone you me everybody. Now coming to the point as to why only Madhwas are allowed near the Brindavan. On the 2 rd of November 2005 I visited the Mutt at Mantralaya but though I am a Madhwa and was dressed up wit a dhoti Shaila including my wife who was decked up in the traditional saree we were not allowed to be near the Brinadavan. Nothing great about that. I think we should visit temples with an open mind irrspective of what people inside the Mutt do. Its God that matters. You see I belong to the Uttradhi Mutt which even forbids entry of other Mutts. Shri Raghavendra Swami is a Guru who leads you to God. Please do not get upset on him and do visit him again whenever you feel like. He asks for nothing form you. Peace and tranquility will be bestoyed upon you and everyone who visit this Guru. The concept of Dvaita is confusing and requires a lot of understanding. There is anotherbranch of Madhwa Brahmins in Dakshina Kannada who have set up the Udipi Krishna Mutt. This temple allows everyone to enter. After all God is for everyone. Shri Gokul please do not get angry with a few things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 My friend, i fully agree with you that everywhere we have bad and good people and this template is no exception. In fact i am a madhwa brahmin belongs to uttaradhi mutt and i was never allowed near brindavan. Just remember onething when you are standing in front of brindavan, swami is inside sitting and watching all of you, physically, i mean physically he is sitting inside and watching all of us. One correction its not three mutts but there are lot of mutts like pejawar mutt, udipi mutt etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I please suggest that madhwas belonging to other community such as kannada and deshasta whose mutts may be such as uttaradhi raghavendra mutt and vyasa mutt stop bringing our sacred krishna mutt to scene in every comment. I shall make it very clear that krishna mutt of udipi belongs only to original udipi shivalli madhwa race and not other madhwa race. God may be for all but not our krishna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I am an udipi shivalli madhva brahmin belonging to udipi pejavara mutt. I shall make it clear that these uttaradhi mutt people are trying to save their reputation by diverting people of other caste saying we are very broad minded. But fact is that we dont like people from other cast including kannada and deshasta madhwas even entering our 8 mutts. Only for govt orders we are quiet but not whole heartedly. ITS CLEAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 I am an udipi shivalli madhva brahmin belonging to udipi pejavara mutt.I shall make it clear that these uttaradhi mutt people are trying to save their reputation by diverting people of other caste saying we are very broad minded. But fact is that we dont like people from other cast including kannada and deshasta madhwas even entering our 8 mutts. Only for govt orders we are quiet but not whole heartedly. ITS CLEAR. Can you enlighten us with a little more information on these kannada and deshasta madhwas and why you feel they should stay away from say, udupi mutt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srimanta Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Can you enlighten us with a little more information on these kannada and deshasta madhwas and why you feel they should stay away from say, udupi mutt? In south India, there are many incarnations of Krsna are coming nowadays though it is not supported by Bhagavatam. They are not either servant of Krsna nor servent of Vishnu. They are all Mayawadi incarnations and creating lots of confusion to Vaisanavs. To fight those incarnations perhaps those mutts had taken some kind of safe guards to protect real devotees coming to visit Vishnu. If you are real devotee of Krsna, definitely Krsna will see you and allow you to enter irrespective of your garments. Nobody can make fool Krsna that is for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Can you enlighten us with a little more information on these kannada and deshasta madhwas and why you feel they should stay away from say, udupi mutt? The kannada&deshastas are just followers of madhwa philosophy but not actually madhwa.The original madhwas are udipi shivalli.There is a huge difference between udipi shivalli madhwas and these kannada&deshasta madhwas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 The kannada&deshastas are just followers of madhwa philosophy but not original madhwas.The original madhwas are udipi shivalli.There is a huge difference between udipi shivalli madhwas and these kannada&deshasta madhwas.even the sampradaya has a vast difference,so its better they stay away from our udipi mutts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachinsrs Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 The kannada&deshastas are just followers of madhwa philosophy but not actually madhwa.The original madhwas are udipi shivalli.There is a huge difference between udipi shivalli madhwas and these kannada&deshasta madhwas. // Hari Om // i dont no who started this topic , but it has shown how united we brahmins are..i feel ashamed to read those silly fights between kannada and udupi brahmins. we are 4 percent in this country and by indulging in such debates and fights we will be 0.4 percent after some years. Please think my brothers. Jai Shri Ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachinsrs Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Hari Om Sir, with what proofs you made such statements.I request you to indulge yourself in healthy debates because it will reflect a bad image on the whole brahmin community for anyone seeing this for the first time.. Jai Shri Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sage Nabooru Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 God may be for all but not our krishna. Krishna IS God. "God may be for all but not our God" doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sri jaya theertha Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 The kannada&deshastas are just followers of madhwa philosophy but not actually madhwa.The original madhwas are udipi shivalli.There is a huge difference between udipi shivalli madhwas and these kannada&deshasta madhwas.[/QUOT oooh give me break , i would like tell some thing about the issue that you have been raised, that is , only 8 mutts which are in udupi thos only madhva mutts, for your kind information earlier it was not 8 mutts(pejawar ,adamaru ,palimaru…) jagad guru sriman madhwacharya has only selected 8 children and blessed them with sanyasa and accepted them as shishyas,did give all shastrabhyasa finally gave the in charge of sri krishna pooja at udupi.. later in 15 century vaadiraja theertha mahaswamigalu made some changes,and as result of that great work of raajaru we are now seeing 8 mutts having their own shishyas and assets, but its not so in case of moola parampara what we see,its actually maha peeta of our madhwacharya and straight a way acharyaru handed over all the moola prathimas and his own peetha to his sincere student padma nabha theertharu which was came to him in the ssath parampara of lord paramathma (hamsa namaka) 1.hamsanamaka paramathma-2.brahma devaru–3.sanaka theertharu- 4.sanadana theertharu –5.sanathkumara theertharu–6. ssanathana theertharu –…….16.SRIMAD ANANDA THEERTHARU(ACHARYA MADHWA)–17.padmanaabha theertharu–18.narahari theertharu–19.madhava theertharu–20.akshobya theertharu–21. srimad jaya theertharu (teekacharyaru)–22.vidyadi raaja theertharu– after that it divided into 3 main samsathans they are sri utharadi mutt, sri vyasaraja mutt, and sri raghavrendra swamy mutt —these are actually moola madhwa parampara and followers of these mutts are madhwas but as mater of fact all who follow madhwa siddanth are madhwas too,but with some difference in sampradayas. one more thing that i would like to shareis the yakshagana kale what we see in south canera was actually brought by our narahari theertharu from orrisa sate, he was raja guru there in his poorvashrama. If we see the deeksha of hardcore madhwasm ( aachara, madi etc..)that is what lacking in most of the people who belong to thulu madhwa people, here are some examples of udupi people who are residing in places other than udupi 1)90% of the people who do not perform fasting in ekadashi, which is primary thing in vaishanavasm 2)most of the people who are lowkikas (non vaidika) who do not follow any of the acharne what madhwacharyaru has insisted us, entering every where with out removing modern dresses. 3) not having angara akshta on their fore head 4)most of the thulu madhwas do not want respect other non thulu speaking madhwa even though , who may be very much knowing shasthras (panditha or vaidika) what these thulu people want is money becase any sincere madhwa brahmin who does not know thulu they will not respond him correctly at the same time any other manglorian or thulu person comes they will give very much respect them though he is not even a brahmin . 5)they are very much concerned about money in every aspect,as if a manglorian businessmen(shetty) of manglore, there fore without following any thing of madhwa sidhantha how you people argue that we are only madhwas i am not talking about people who are actually residing in udupi till this day and also not to any ather who is doing all those things, that is why i mentioned every where it does not apply every thulu people, sorry i am not against the thulu people it is the mere experience of all the other madhwas here in big cities like banglore mysore hubli dharvad and lots of other places. but we people welcome the thulu peoplewith open mind, but they will not please forgive me, if i am not correct, think over it. please.. , hare srinivasa.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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