MADONNA and ashtanga yoga....

Pop star (rock star) lady Madonna releaed an album with a sanskrit

sloka ! she came in for a lot of crticism for her 'pronounciation' of

sanskrit.

 

now, folks, if we can bend our body as madonna does and be flexible

like a ;pretzel' and do ashtanga yoga like her, doe it really matter

how she pronounces the 'om shanti' mantra... ?

 

as you all know, all fashions, fads and fetishes srart in hollywood

and end in bollywood. (bombay).. so, now some of the famous rock and

pop stars like Sting, Jebnnifer Lopez and Madonna have taken to

ashtanga yoga.

 

The bindi (red dot or variations of it) and mehendi (hand painting

with henna) are also becoming popular in hollywood.

 

well, folks Maonna certainly made history with her rendering of this

sanskrit sloka

 

 

here is how it goes...

 

Astanga Yoga Mantram

 

OM

Vande Gurunam Caranaravinde

Sandarsita Svatma Sukhava Bodhe

Nih Sreyase Jangalikayamane

Samsara Halahala Mohasantyai

Abahu Purusakaram

Sankhacakrasi Dharinam

Sahasra Sirasam Svetam

Pranamami Patanjalim

 

OM

 

In English:

 

I pray to the Lotus feet of the Supreme Guru who teaches the good

knowledge, showing the way to knowing the self awakening great

happiness; who is the doctor of the jungle, able to remove the poison

of the ignorance of conditioned existence.

 

To Patanjali, an incarmation of Adisesa, white in color with 1000

radiant heads (in his form as the divine serpent, Ananta), human in

form below the shoulders holding a sword (discrimination), a wheel of

fire (discus of light, representing infinite time), and a conch

(Divine sound) - to him, I prostrate.

 

this sloka is dedicated to patanjali, the guru of ashtanga yoga.

 

well, the pundits in benaras were not happy over madonna's

pronounciation of the word 'om shanti.'

 

one of the The pundits b.n. chaturvedi, said, "how can it bring

peace to Madonna and her audiences when she pronounces 'Shanti,

Shanti,' as 'Shant-ee Shant-ee?'" he asks. According to scholars, the

word should be pronounced with a clipped E sound and not a long E

sound. "It is one thing to make a mistake in ordinary conversation

but another to chant it incorrectly," says Chaturvedi.

 

BUT TO ALL THESE SCHOLARS, I SAY- " please, look at the big picture.

The lady at least made an honest attempt to pay tribute to a great

yoga teacher by popularizing this sloka." but for her, how many

(including indians) know of this sloka?

 

my question is , the whole idea behind ashtanga yoga (eight limbed)

is as you start practicing the different postures and srart learning

the breathing techniques, your body, mind and thoughts get purified !

whether purification comes before and after is a subject of another

post...

 

but anyday, if i can bend my body like a pretzel like lady madonna, i

will be the first one to bow to this lady's lotus feet!!! even though

as a bharatanatyam dancer, i used to be flexible now with age and

lack of practice, simple yoga asanas seem to be so difficult!!

 

om !om!om!

The only problem I have with Madonna and some of these other stars is

that they tend to cheapen Hindu culture and tradition in using it as

a fashion fad...all very shallow and also mostly used as a marketing

ploy to shift more records etc...Madonna is a prime exemple of fads

hopping like being into catholicism one minute, hinduism/buddhist the

next and not very long ago, she swore only by the Kabbalah (The

jewish mysticism)...looks like an opportunist to me, that's why she

is a very cunning business woman...

 

I dont like that. If you are going to practice these great teachings,

you will not behave like Madonna, in such a materialistic manner...

 

Having said that, someone like Sting I think is (and I hope) more

involved in the philosophy and spirituality so that is fine! Perhaps

then he should talk more about it in his music or even do lectures

etc...

 

JAI MA KALI!!!

JAI HANUMANJI!!!

JAI PHIL COLLINS!!!

 

Phil Das Bhakta

 

 

, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote:

> Pop star (rock star) lady Madonna releaed an album with a sanskrit

> sloka ! she came in for a lot of crticism for her 'pronounciation'

of

> sanskrit.

>

> now, folks, if we can bend our body as madonna does and be flexible

> like a ;pretzel' and do ashtanga yoga like her, doe it really

matter

> how she pronounces the 'om shanti' mantra... ?

>

> as you all know, all fashions, fads and fetishes srart in hollywood

> and end in bollywood. (bombay).. so, now some of the famous rock

and

> pop stars like Sting, Jebnnifer Lopez and Madonna have taken to

> ashtanga yoga.

>

> The bindi (red dot or variations of it) and mehendi (hand painting

> with henna) are also becoming popular in hollywood.

>

> well, folks Maonna certainly made history with her rendering of

this

> sanskrit sloka

>

>

> here is how it goes...

>

> Astanga Yoga Mantram

>

> OM

> Vande Gurunam Caranaravinde

> Sandarsita Svatma Sukhava Bodhe

> Nih Sreyase Jangalikayamane

> Samsara Halahala Mohasantyai

> Abahu Purusakaram

> Sankhacakrasi Dharinam

> Sahasra Sirasam Svetam

> Pranamami Patanjalim

>

> OM

>

> In English:

>

> I pray to the Lotus feet of the Supreme Guru who teaches the good

> knowledge, showing the way to knowing the self awakening great

> happiness; who is the doctor of the jungle, able to remove the

poison

> of the ignorance of conditioned existence.

>

> To Patanjali, an incarmation of Adisesa, white in color with 1000

> radiant heads (in his form as the divine serpent, Ananta), human in

> form below the shoulders holding a sword (discrimination), a wheel

of

> fire (discus of light, representing infinite time), and a conch

> (Divine sound) - to him, I prostrate.

>

> this sloka is dedicated to patanjali, the guru of ashtanga yoga.

>

> well, the pundits in benaras were not happy over madonna's

> pronounciation of the word 'om shanti.'

>

> one of the The pundits b.n. chaturvedi, said, "how can it bring

> peace to Madonna and her audiences when she pronounces 'Shanti,

> Shanti,' as 'Shant-ee Shant-ee?'" he asks. According to scholars,

the

> word should be pronounced with a clipped E sound and not a long E

> sound. "It is one thing to make a mistake in ordinary conversation

> but another to chant it incorrectly," says Chaturvedi.

>

> BUT TO ALL THESE SCHOLARS, I SAY- " please, look at the big

picture.

> The lady at least made an honest attempt to pay tribute to a great

> yoga teacher by popularizing this sloka." but for her, how many

> (including indians) know of this sloka?

>

> my question is , the whole idea behind ashtanga yoga (eight limbed)

> is as you start practicing the different postures and srart

learning

> the breathing techniques, your body, mind and thoughts get

purified !

> whether purification comes before and after is a subject of another

> post...

>

> but anyday, if i can bend my body like a pretzel like lady madonna,

i

> will be the first one to bow to this lady's lotus feet!!! even

though

> as a bharatanatyam dancer, i used to be flexible now with age and

> lack of practice, simple yoga asanas seem to be so difficult!!

>

> om !om!om!

dear jaiphilcollins, in my eyes 'material gil' madonna is o.k. you

know why?

 

let me explain. I do not look up to madonna as my spiritual role

model --- sure, she is a shrewd bussiness woman; more than that she

knows how to market her talents... but believe me when 'material

girls' like her make a lot of money they do spend their wealth and as

a result of that a 'redistribution of wealth' occurs -the velocity of

circulation of money increases putting more purchasing power in the

hands of a larger number of people... everybody benefits- the

fashion industry, the textile industry, the cosmetic industry, so on

and so forth... also, to take big tax write offs, she may be

contributing to 'charities' of all kinds...

 

all i was saying was she did popuularize a relatively unknown stotra

of sage patanjali and 'ashtanga yoga'-

 

She does have a very 'toned' up physique at her age because of

practicing all the difficult yoga asanas and believe me when she

gets older and wiser, she may even turn into a full-fledged yogi! who

knows and who cares? after all, 'materialism' has its limits...

 

but i do admire her 'free spiritedness' and her desire

to 'experiment' and explore different paths ! one day, just like the

rest of us, she may discover herself - that 'i am the self' !

smiles!!!!

 

love

 

 

 

 

 

, "jaiphilcollins" <JayaPhilCollins@a...>

wrote:

> The only problem I have with Madonna and some of these other stars

is

> that they tend to cheapen Hindu culture and tradition in using it

as

> a fashion fad...all very shallow and also mostly used as a

marketing

> ploy to shift more records etc...Madonna is a prime exemple of fads

> hopping like being into catholicism one minute, hinduism/buddhist

the

> next and not very long ago, she swore only by the Kabbalah (The

> jewish mysticism)...looks like an opportunist to me, that's why she

> is a very cunning business woman...

>

> I dont like that. If you are going to practice these great

teachings,

> you will not behave like Madonna, in such a materialistic manner...

>

> Having said that, someone like Sting I think is (and I hope) more

> involved in the philosophy and spirituality so that is fine!

Perhaps

> then he should talk more about it in his music or even do lectures

> etc...

>

> JAI MA KALI!!!

> JAI HANUMANJI!!!

> JAI PHIL COLLINS!!!

>

> Phil Das Bhakta

>

>

> , "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

> wrote:

> > Pop star (rock star) lady Madonna releaed an album with a

sanskrit

> > sloka ! she came in for a lot of crticism for

her 'pronounciation'

> of

> > sanskrit.

> >

> > now, folks, if we can bend our body as madonna does and be

flexible

> > like a ;pretzel' and do ashtanga yoga like her, doe it really

> matter

> > how she pronounces the 'om shanti' mantra... ?

> >

> > as you all know, all fashions, fads and fetishes srart in

hollywood

> > and end in bollywood. (bombay).. so, now some of the famous rock

> and

> > pop stars like Sting, Jebnnifer Lopez and Madonna have taken to

> > ashtanga yoga.

> >

> > The bindi (red dot or variations of it) and mehendi (hand

painting

> > with henna) are also becoming popular in hollywood.

> >

> > well, folks Maonna certainly made history with her rendering of

> this

> > sanskrit sloka

> >

> >

> > here is how it goes...

> >

> > Astanga Yoga Mantram

> >

> > OM

> > Vande Gurunam Caranaravinde

> > Sandarsita Svatma Sukhava Bodhe

> > Nih Sreyase Jangalikayamane

> > Samsara Halahala Mohasantyai

> > Abahu Purusakaram

> > Sankhacakrasi Dharinam

> > Sahasra Sirasam Svetam

> > Pranamami Patanjalim

> >

> > OM

> >

> > In English:

> >

> > I pray to the Lotus feet of the Supreme Guru who teaches the good

> > knowledge, showing the way to knowing the self awakening great

> > happiness; who is the doctor of the jungle, able to remove the

> poison

> > of the ignorance of conditioned existence.

> >

> > To Patanjali, an incarmation of Adisesa, white in color with 1000

> > radiant heads (in his form as the divine serpent, Ananta), human

in

> > form below the shoulders holding a sword (discrimination), a

wheel

> of

> > fire (discus of light, representing infinite time), and a conch

> > (Divine sound) - to him, I prostrate.

> >

> > this sloka is dedicated to patanjali, the guru of ashtanga yoga.

> >

> > well, the pundits in benaras were not happy over madonna's

> > pronounciation of the word 'om shanti.'

> >

> > one of the The pundits b.n. chaturvedi, said, "how can it bring

> > peace to Madonna and her audiences when she pronounces 'Shanti,

> > Shanti,' as 'Shant-ee Shant-ee?'" he asks. According to scholars,

> the

> > word should be pronounced with a clipped E sound and not a long E

> > sound. "It is one thing to make a mistake in ordinary

conversation

> > but another to chant it incorrectly," says Chaturvedi.

> >

> > BUT TO ALL THESE SCHOLARS, I SAY- " please, look at the big

> picture.

> > The lady at least made an honest attempt to pay tribute to a

great

> > yoga teacher by popularizing this sloka." but for her, how many

> > (including indians) know of this sloka?

> >

> > my question is , the whole idea behind ashtanga yoga (eight

limbed)

> > is as you start practicing the different postures and srart

> learning

> > the breathing techniques, your body, mind and thoughts get

> purified !

> > whether purification comes before and after is a subject of

another

> > post...

> >

> > but anyday, if i can bend my body like a pretzel like lady

madonna,

> i

> > will be the first one to bow to this lady's lotus feet!!! even

> though

> > as a bharatanatyam dancer, i used to be flexible now with age and

> > lack of practice, simple yoga asanas seem to be so difficult!!

> >

> > om !om!om!