Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 Namaskar Mitra, one of the myths perpetuated by the Dawn article below and secularists in India is that V D Savarkar was amongst others the first to talk about the 2 nation theory. After the Mutiny of 1857 when the Muslims & Hindus fought the British together the Brits came down heavily on the Muslims. Starting 1860's Sir Syed Ahmed Khan founder of the Aligarh Muslim University and the Brits worked together hand in hand and laid the seeds of Muslims separatism. This was to culminate in the Creation of separate electorates for Muslims around 1906 and the Partition of Bengal in 1905. These decisions were meant to accentuate the Hindu Muslim divide. Please read Syed Ahmed's speeches and the role played by the Brits in an article titled 'Aligarh Muslim Movement and British role' on esamskriti link below. http://www.esamskriti.com/html/new_inside.asp?cat_name=history&cid=412&sid=99, Find below two of his speeches that will give yu an idea of what I am saying. 1. At a speech at Meerut on 16/03/1888 Syed Ahmed refers to the Hindus and Muslims not only as two nations, but as two warring nations who could not lead a common political life if ever the Brits left India. He said, "Now suppose that all the Brits were to leave India, then who would be the rulers of India? Is it possible that under these circumstances these nations, the Muhammadan and the Hindu could sit on the same throne and remain equal in power. Most certainly not. It is necessary that one of them should conquer the other and thrust it down. To hope that both could remain equal is to desire the impossible and the inconceivable". Sachin Sen pg 42. Extract from History and Culture of the Indian People by the Bhartiya Vidya Bhavan. 2. Quoting from Indian Controversies by Arun Shourie pg 112 Syed Ahmed said "And first suppose that all the Muslims vote for a Muslim and all the Hindus vote for a Hindu, it is certain that Muslims will have four times as many votes since their population is four times as numerous. And then how can the Muslim guard his interests? Now I ask you, O Muslims! Weep at your condition! Have you such wealth that you can compete with the Hindus? In the whole nation there is no person who is equal to Hindus in the fitness for the work!" Will the Hindus stop criticizing themselves? You might like to read this? 3 . Why Pakistan will Never Allow Bharat to live in peace. http://www.esamskriti.com/html/new_inside.asp?cat_name=warsfa&cid=135&sid=17 love and om sanjeev http://www.dawn.com/2003/01/20/op.htmA distorted pictureBy Yasser Latif HamdaniThere is a disturbing trend amongst some Indian intellectuals and politicians to concoct a view of Pakistan which has no roots in reality.Whereas we Pakistanis are lucky that there are people like Khushwant Singh, M J Akbar, Kuldip Nayyar and Raj Mohan Gandhi around in India who have always spoken the truth about Pakistan, they are sadly few and far between the multitudes of Sumeet Gangulys and Narendra Modis. These anti-Pakistan intellectuals and politicians have a sinister agenda: berate Pakistan, its people and its historical antecedents and in comparison make look India better.There are three notions that are established about Pakistan which transcend party, ideology, and ethnic lines in India. These are: 1) Partition was the greatest tragedy in the history of mankind, caused by Muslims; 2) Pakistan is based on a narrow exclusivist ideology; and 3) Pakistan 'solved' its minority problem by ethnic cleansing of Hindus and Sikhs in 1947, with the remaining minorities living in miserable conditions.It should be worthwhile to examine these statements closely and put them to a test of facts.The first man to talk of Hindus and Muslims as separate nations was V.D. Savarkar who coined the word 'Hindutva' in a book with the same title in 1923. Other Hindu leaders who accepted the two-nation theory were Dr Moonje of the Hindu Mahasabha, Pandit Madan Mohan Malaviya, founder of the Benares Hindu University, Lala Lajpat Rai, Bhai Parmanand and Swami Shraddhanand. Eminent Bengali writer Bankimchandra Chattopadhyay also supported the notion." (Khushwant Singh, Hindutva Manufactured, The Hindustan Times, June 29, 2002)Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi in his famous interview with Louis Fischer admitted that the cause of the Muslim League's separatism lay in the rise of the Hindu ideology which made Muslim leaders in the Congress uncomfortable. Yet this alone is not the justification for partition. The point is the drawing and re-drawing of borders needs no justification except the general will of a people.South Asia was never one people, and it will never be one people. Instead the ethnic, religious, cultural, social and caste-based divisions go deep into the fabric of South Asian society and this can be its greatest strength. Therefore, the redrawing of a border or the creation of Pakistan was in no way a contradiction of South Asian contiguity which had existed despite the divisions amongst its diverse peoples. The unity of the world lies in constant decentralization of authority, till effective governance and equality are finally achieved, and the true meaning of liberty is realized.Is Pakistan really based on a narrow exclusivist ideology? "Mr Jinnah had sent word to my father... to persuade me to stay on in Lahore. The indication was clear; he wanted to consider me as a judge of the High Court." (Khushwant Singh, Truth, Love and a Little Malice, an autobiography).The Pakistan Movement's premise was the right of self-determination for a population which formed the majority in the north west and north-east of the subcontinent but was an overall a minority. A nation arising out a struggle for minority rights cannot have a raison d' etre which is exclusivist. This defeats the purpose of its creation in the first place.In a sweeping statement Indian pseudo-intellectuals love to declare that Pakistan is a country based on a religious identity. Now the phenomenon of religion as ethnicity is not without precedent. The division of Ottoman Turkey, Ireland, the Balkans, and of course the creation of Israel all point to the existence of the use of religious identity as a nationalism. After all what makes linguistic or regional nationalism more kosher than a common faith? There is nothing wrong with it as a principle, but it is the misuse of this principle that is the problem.Some in India unfairly claim that Jinnah envisaged no role for the minorities in Pakistan. Jinnah's pronouncements with regards to minorities are crystal clear and his personal efforts to protect the Hindus of Karachi and Sindh during the disturbances on both sides have been lauded by many a Hindu writer including the first Indian high commissioner, Sri Prikasa, and the veteran journalist M. S. Sharma.One can consult the book "Peep into Pakistan" for a detailed account. The primary documents that have been since revealed also show that the League leadership, and particularly Jinnah, did not envisage an exchange of populations. In fact he had tried really hard to persuade non-Muslims in Pakistan to stay on. Khushwant Singh points out that Jinnah's appointment of Jogindranath Mandal as the first law minister of Pakistan seems to confirm this view. Jinnah also established a 10% special quota of jobs for non-Muslim minorities.What of "ethnic cleansing" in 1947 and the treatment of minorities now? Khushwant Singh and Kuldip Nayyar, like other writers who have written about partition, hold that 'neither Nehru nor Jinnah' envisaged the brutal exchange of populations. This is certainly the view that one gets from the Jinnah papers. And yet the exchange of populations happened, and then came the terrible communal bloodbath on both sides.Some 5.5 million Muslims were ethnically cleansed from East Punjab and areas neighbouring Pakistan, and some 3.5 million Hindus from West Punjab and Sindh then packed up and left for India. Both Pakistan and India however had large sections of Hindu and Muslim minorities in other parts of the country. East Pakistan for example had 15% Hindus who organized themselves under the able leadership of Chattopadhaya, the leader of the Pakistan Congress Party.Undeniably the religious minorities in India have complete legal parity according to the secular constitution of that country, much more so than in Pakistan where they are not allowed to run for the highest office in the land. However this does not mean that the common folk amongst them are happier in India than in Pakistan. In fact some will argue that Pakistan has never had the kind of mass killings as one sees in Gujarat and other communally troubled parts of India.In Pakistan, incidents of violence against non-Muslims are the product of problems of a more global nature as the recent church bombings indicate. Generally, non-muslims in Pakistan are left to go about their business. The Sunni Muslim majority is more interested in persecuting the Shia minority or the Ahmadiya community. Non-muslims are amongst the most talented and the most patriotic Pakistanis.There's Justice Bhagwan Das of the Supreme Court. One of Pakistan's best fashion designer is a Hindu (Deepak Parwani). The owners of one of the largest hotel chains are Parsis. One of the best batsmen in Pakistan's cricket team is a Christian (Youhanna).However, not all is well with the minorities. Institutionalized discrimination against non-muslims needs to be done away with immediately, not because of international pressure, but because the very premise of our nation state, our ideology safeguards minority rights and ensures their equal status as citizens in Pakistan. The point is that our doing so should not be seen as a departure from an imagined exclusivist principle, but rather a return to our true ideology, that of equality, fraternity and justice on which Pakistan was created.Discover your Indian Roots at - http://www.esamskriti.comTo mail - exploreindia (AT) vsnl (DOT) net.Long Live Sanatan / Kshatriya Dharam. Become an Intellectual KshatriyaGenerate Positive Vibrations lifelong worldwide.Aap ka din mangalmaya rahe or Shubh dinam astu or Have a Nice DayUnity preceedes Strength Synchronize your efforts, avoid duplication.THINK, ACT, INFLUENCE, to Un write back.Create Positive Karmas by being Focussed, controlling senses, will power & determinationNever boasts about yr victory and successKnowledge, Wealth, Happiness are meant to be sharedBe Open Minded, pick up what yu like from the world Stop cribbing, ACTION is what the Indian scriptures talk aboutTake the battle into the enemy camp, SET THE AGENDA, be proactiveIn an argument, no emotions, be detached, get yr facts right, then attack with the precision of a missile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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