Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Hello Friends, I must thank Sri P V N RAO ji of VA for birth details of Sri Chandrababu Naidu CM (presently) of Andhra Pradesh. It would be improper for me to forecast outcome of elections in India and AP, but I cannot resist analysing his horoscope using HP method. I am giving below the birth details of Mr.Naidu for students like me to analyse. 20th April 1950, 11:28:35 am IST, 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" Placement of Planets : GEMINI : Asc,BRL LEO : Sat (Retro) VIRGO : Ketu, Mars (Retro) AQUARIUS : Jup, Ven PISCES : Rahu (R10) ARIES : Sun,Merc TAURUS : Moon Born in Surya Mahadasa. Presently running Sani Mahadasa, Sani Bhukti till May 9th 2005. Sani dasa is his 6th Sadhaka dasa. ANALYSIS AS PER HP THEORY.: He is born with R10 hence no need to orient his horoscope to read his political career. Mark GURU the badhakadhipati in VM. Guru became best yogakaraka for him as it turned as his best friend being in VM.It lost all power to do evil being in Stunned condition being in VISHA MUKHA. 2002 Sani dasa started and his cup of problems suddenly started overflowing. Troubles and strife started for Mr.Naidu. Naxalites killed his people, he was attacked and now his political career is at stake. Sani is his 8th lord and 9th lord.Being the lord of signs fully under VM effect, Sani has lost power to do good for him . Atleast his first three Antar dasas are going to cause him sleepless nights and see a seesaw battle as far as his political life is concerned. His Shukra bhukti would bring relief. Coming to present situation in elections, he may personally win the seat . HE WOULD WIN THE BATTLE BUT WOULD LOSE THE WAR. Why ? You may ask. Rahu who is his biggest friend is in 8th position from Dasa natha. He is having the last period of SADESATI . And Rahu is transiting over his Lagnadhipati and 3rd lords which falls in 12th house from Moon. Rgds Hemant Trivedi vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste friends, > > Some people enquired about the birthdata of Chandrababu Naidu, Chief Minister of AP state in India, after my post on the elections. > > The data I have in my computer is: > > 20th April 1950, 11:28:35 am IST, 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" > > Please note several raja yogas involving the 9th and 10th houses. The 10th lord Jupiter has an exchange with 9th lord Rahu. This gives Dharma-Karmadhipati Yoga (DKY). Venus is the 5th lord and he joins 10th lord Jupiter. In addition, Saturn is the other 9th lord and he is in samasaptaka from Venus and Jupiter. > > Venus antardasa in Jupiter mahadasa ran during Feb 1994-Oct 1996. It was in Aug 1995 that Naidu became the Chief Minister of AP state. > > Due to the DKY given by Rahu and Jupiter, he became very famous as a great doer, especially abroad, in Rahu antardasa in Jupiter mahadasa (Nov 1999-Apr 2002). > > Saturn mahadasa started in 2002. Saturn mahadasa is good too. I will be surprised if Naidu fades away so easily, though all the newspapers are saying today, on the strength of the exit polls, that Naidu is all set to lose. > > Look at the annual TP charts. The 2003-04 chart started at 3:10:39 pm IST on 4th May 2003. As per the Tithi Ashtottari dasa of this chart, Mars dasa started on April 6. Mars is the exalted 8th lord in 5th, showing worries and anxiety related to loss of power. > > However, a new year started at 2:44:25 pm IST on 22nd April 2004. As per the Tithi Ashtottari dasa of this chart, Mars dasa was the first dasa. In this chart, however, Mars is a good planet. He is yogakaraka for Leo lagna and joins 10th lord Venus within 5 deg and gives DKY. Moreover, Mars happens to be the hora lord too. When hora lord (ruler of the year) is a yoga karaka and gives DKY, only good results can be expected. > > Even though media is quick to pronounce the results based on extrapolation from an exit poll and dismiss Naidu, I have strong reasons to suspect that the exit polls will prove wrong and Naidu will have the last laugh. He will manage to stay in power after the ballots are counted. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > PS: I will write on the national elections tomorrow, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Hello Friends, I must thank Sri P V N RAO ji of VA for birth details of Sri Chandrababu Naidu CM (presently) of Andhra Pradesh. It would be improper for me to forecast outcome of elections in India and AP, but I cannot resist analysing his horoscope using HP method. I am giving below the birth details of Mr.Naidu for students like me to analyse. 20th April 1950, 11:28:35 am IST, 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" Placement of Planets : GEMINI : Asc,BRL LEO : Sat (Retro) VIRGO : Ketu, Mars (Retro) AQUARIUS : Jup, Ven PISCES : Rahu (R10) ARIES : Sun,Merc TAURUS : Moon Born in Surya Mahadasa. Presently running Sani Mahadasa, Sani Bhukti till May 9th 2005. Sani dasa is his 6th Sadhaka dasa. ANALYSIS AS PER HP THEORY.: He is born with R10 hence no need to orient his horoscope to read his political career. Mark GURU the badhakadhipati in VM. Guru became best yogakaraka for him as it turned as his best friend being in VM.It lost all power to do evil being in Stunned condition being in VISHA MUKHA. 2002 Sani dasa started and his cup of problems suddenly started overflowing. Troubles and strife started for Mr.Naidu. Naxalites killed his people, he was attacked and now his political career is at stake. Sani is his 8th lord and 9th lord.Being the lord of signs fully under VM effect, Sani has lost power to do good for him . Atleast his first three Antar dasas are going to cause him sleepless nights and see a seesaw battle as far as his political life is concerned. His Shukra bhukti would bring relief. Coming to present situation in elections, he may personally win the seat . HE WOULD WIN THE BATTLE BUT WOULD LOSE THE WAR. Why ? You may ask. Rahu who is his biggest friend is in 8th position from Dasa natha. He is having the last period of SADESATI . And Rahu is transiting over his Lagnadhipati and 3rd lords which falls in 12th house from Moon. Rgds Hemant Trivedi vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste friends, > > Some people enquired about the birthdata of Chandrababu Naidu, Chief Minister of AP state in India, after my post on the elections. > > The data I have in my computer is: > > 20th April 1950, 11:28:35 am IST, 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" > > Please note several raja yogas involving the 9th and 10th houses. The 10th lord Jupiter has an exchange with 9th lord Rahu. This gives Dharma-Karmadhipati Yoga (DKY). Venus is the 5th lord and he joins 10th lord Jupiter. In addition, Saturn is the other 9th lord and he is in samasaptaka from Venus and Jupiter. > > Venus antardasa in Jupiter mahadasa ran during Feb 1994-Oct 1996. It was in Aug 1995 that Naidu became the Chief Minister of AP state. > > Due to the DKY given by Rahu and Jupiter, he became very famous as a great doer, especially abroad, in Rahu antardasa in Jupiter mahadasa (Nov 1999-Apr 2002). > > Saturn mahadasa started in 2002. Saturn mahadasa is good too. I will be surprised if Naidu fades away so easily, though all the newspapers are saying today, on the strength of the exit polls, that Naidu is all set to lose. > > Look at the annual TP charts. The 2003-04 chart started at 3:10:39 pm IST on 4th May 2003. As per the Tithi Ashtottari dasa of this chart, Mars dasa started on April 6. Mars is the exalted 8th lord in 5th, showing worries and anxiety related to loss of power. > > However, a new year started at 2:44:25 pm IST on 22nd April 2004. As per the Tithi Ashtottari dasa of this chart, Mars dasa was the first dasa. In this chart, however, Mars is a good planet. He is yogakaraka for Leo lagna and joins 10th lord Venus within 5 deg and gives DKY. Moreover, Mars happens to be the hora lord too. When hora lord (ruler of the year) is a yoga karaka and gives DKY, only good results can be expected. > > Even though media is quick to pronounce the results based on extrapolation from an exit poll and dismiss Naidu, I have strong reasons to suspect that the exit polls will prove wrong and Naidu will have the last laugh. He will manage to stay in power after the ballots are counted. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > PS: I will write on the national elections tomorrow, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Dear Sir Thank you for the analysis. But dont you think you are analysing, almost when all the results have come, and the leads are showing landslide victory to congress. Also the reults of Naidu has been declared two hours back before your timely predictions. best wishes partha vedic astrology, "vidyut_bhatt" <vidyut_bhatt> wrote: > Hello Friends, > > I must thank Sri P V N RAO ji of VA for birth details of Sri > Chandrababu Naidu CM (presently) of Andhra Pradesh. > > It would be improper for me to forecast outcome of elections in India > and AP, but I cannot resist analysing his horoscope using HP method. > > I am giving below the birth details of Mr.Naidu for students like me > to analyse. > > 20th April 1950, 11:28:35 am IST, 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" > > Placement of Planets : > > GEMINI : Asc,BRL > LEO : Sat (Retro) > VIRGO : Ketu, Mars (Retro) > AQUARIUS : Jup, Ven > PISCES : Rahu (R10) > ARIES : Sun,Merc > TAURUS : Moon > > Born in Surya Mahadasa. > Presently running Sani Mahadasa, Sani Bhukti till May 9th 2005. > Sani dasa is his 6th Sadhaka dasa. > > ANALYSIS AS PER HP THEORY.: > > He is born with R10 hence no need to orient his horoscope to read his > political career. > Mark GURU the badhakadhipati in VM. > Guru became best yogakaraka for him as it turned as his best friend > being in VM.It lost all power to do evil being in Stunned condition > being in VISHA MUKHA. > 2002 Sani dasa started and his cup of problems suddenly started > overflowing. Troubles and strife started for Mr.Naidu. Naxalites > killed his people, he was attacked and now his political career is at > stake. > > Sani is his 8th lord and 9th lord.Being the lord of signs fully under > VM effect, Sani has lost power to do good for him . > Atleast his first three Antar dasas are going to cause him sleepless > nights and see a seesaw battle as far as his political life is > concerned. > His Shukra bhukti would bring relief. > Coming to present situation in elections, he may personally win the > seat . > HE WOULD WIN THE BATTLE BUT WOULD LOSE THE WAR. > Why ? You may ask. > Rahu who is his biggest friend is in 8th position from Dasa natha. He > is having the last period of SADESATI . And Rahu is transiting over > his Lagnadhipati and 3rd lords which falls in 12th house from Moon. > > Rgds > Hemant Trivedi vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > <pvr@c...> wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > > > Some people enquired about the birthdata of Chandrababu Naidu, > Chief Minister of AP state in India, after my post on the elections. > > > > The data I have in my computer is: > > > > 20th April 1950, 11:28:35 am IST, 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" > > > > Please note several raja yogas involving the 9th and 10th houses. > The 10th lord Jupiter has an exchange with 9th lord Rahu. This gives > Dharma-Karmadhipati Yoga (DKY). Venus is the 5th lord and he joins > 10th lord Jupiter. In addition, Saturn is the other 9th lord and he > is in samasaptaka from Venus and Jupiter. > > > > Venus antardasa in Jupiter mahadasa ran during Feb 1994-Oct 1996. > It was in Aug 1995 that Naidu became the Chief Minister of AP state. > > > > Due to the DKY given by Rahu and Jupiter, he became very famous as > a great doer, especially abroad, in Rahu antardasa in Jupiter > mahadasa (Nov 1999-Apr 2002). > > > > Saturn mahadasa started in 2002. Saturn mahadasa is good too. I > will be surprised if Naidu fades away so easily, though all the > newspapers are saying today, on the strength of the exit polls, that > Naidu is all set to lose. > > > > Look at the annual TP charts. The 2003-04 chart started at 3:10:39 > pm IST on 4th May 2003. As per the Tithi Ashtottari dasa of this > chart, Mars dasa started on April 6. Mars is the exalted 8th lord in > 5th, showing worries and anxiety related to loss of power. > > > > However, a new year started at 2:44:25 pm IST on 22nd April 2004. > As per the Tithi Ashtottari dasa of this chart, Mars dasa was the > first dasa. In this chart, however, Mars is a good planet. He is > yogakaraka for Leo lagna and joins 10th lord Venus within 5 deg and > gives DKY. Moreover, Mars happens to be the hora lord too. When hora > lord (ruler of the year) is a yoga karaka and gives DKY, only good > results can be expected. > > > > Even though media is quick to pronounce the results based on > extrapolation from an exit poll and dismiss Naidu, I have strong > reasons to suspect that the exit polls will prove wrong and Naidu > will have the last laugh. He will manage to stay in power after the > ballots are counted. > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > > > PS: I will write on the national elections tomorrow, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 ::om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya:: Dear Jyotisa, Narasimha, Ramdas Rao, Sanjay P and others, This is regarding the so called 'PREDICTIONS' about Chandrababu Naidu. Please stop congratulating each other. Five years back there was a lot of criticism Shri K.N.Rao got because he made predictions AFTER the exit polls. I ask - is this Jyotish?. If you wanted to make predictions should this not be done much before the election process kicks off? In fact the congrats should go to Mr. P. ROY of NDTV who made the prediction on TV based on EXIT POLLS. Everyone else has only copied his prediction or opposed it. A Jyotish prediction is one that is made before the event takes place and NOT after it is done. Now coming to the points – Tithi Pravesa Chart – The TP chart for Chandrababu Naidu that I get based on the data provided in a letter of Mr. Vidyut Bhatt is givern below. Naidu, Chandrababu Annual TP April 22, 2004 Time: 2:44:25 pm Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" Lunar Yr-Mo: Tarana - Vaisakha Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (38.11% left) Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) Nakshatra: Rohini (Mo) (99.27% left) Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) Karana: Garija (Ju) Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le) Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Ta) Kaala Lord: Rahu (Mahakala: Rahu) BASIC PRINCIPLE OF TP The first rule is to check the placement of the annual lagna as compared to natal Lagna. The Varsa Lagna is in Leo in the 3rd house which is a bad house. Karaka for this house is Mars and fights and setbacks should be naturally expected. The Hora Lord is Mars. It lords the 4th, 9th and Badhak houses of the TP Chart. Now look at these houses. We have an ECLIPSE yoga of the Sun & Rähu in the 9th house in Badhak sthäna. It is well known that a solar eclipse causes the fall of kings. Since this is occurring in Bhagya sthäna this will cause terrible misfortune. Next take Vara – this is Thursday ruled by Jupiter. Now go back to nata chart and see what Guru has to say. Guru is well placed in 9th house. His health will be good and he will still have some fortune left even after the eclipse. Now look at the Äruòha in the TP chart. The AL is in Dhanus with ONLY Sanidev and debilitated Mercury aspecting AL and 10th house from AL. the Äruòha is Finished this year. Look at the satrupada A6. This is in Scorpio with exalted Moon in 7th house (enemy will get fame and public support) and Jupter is in 10th house from A6 (enemy will get the blessings of God)… Now see the dasas. Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): Le: 2004-04-22 (2:44:25 pm) - 2004-05-08 (9:49:34 am) Cp: 2004-05-08 (9:49:34 am) - 2004-05-31 (11:55:14 am) Ge: 2004-05-31 (11:55:14 am) - 2004-06-26 (3:26:13 am) Sc: 2004-06-26 (3:26:13 am) - 2004-07-14 (1:02:42 pm) The daçä of Capricorn is from May 8, 2004 to 31 may 2004 during which period the Äruòha will be destroyed as Saturn its lord sits in the 7th from AL and this is the 2nd house from AL. Not that the enemies will fare very well as Saturn promises to be a kantaka for them as well. I don’t know what this means in politics but maybe some TRS and Cong stuff is waiting to be seen. Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi Pravesha charts): Mars: 2004-04-05 (10:54:43 am) - 2004-05-03 (9:21:20 pm) Merc: 2004-05-03 (9:21:20 pm) - 2004-07-02 (5:00:53 pm) Sat: 2004-07-02 (5:00:53 pm) - 2004-08-06 (4:51:52 pm) Jup: 2004-08-06 (4:51:52 pm) - 2004-10-14 (2:27:35 am) Rah: 2004-10-14 (2:27:35 am) - 2004-11-25 (12:25:15 am) Ven: 2004-11-25 (12:25:15 am) - 2005-02-08 (5:44:54 am) Sun: 2005-02-08 (5:44:54 am) - 2005-03-02 (3:08:19 am) Moon: 2005-03-02 (3:08:19 am) - 2005-04-24 (9:38:47 am) Mars: 2005-04-24 (9:38:47 am) - 2005-05-22 (7:50:20 pm) The TA daçä is of Mars during this period and Mars is clearly the Lord of Satrupada and is aspecting the A6 and 10th from A6 with graha drishti. No doubt that the enemy will fight well. Incidentally Dr.Rajasekhara Reddy of the Congress is a medical doctor (MARS). It is not that TP is wrong. I was told about the letter of Narasimha t the lists but his ‘bias’ seemed evident in the mail. Statements like ‘even if he loses he will still do very well in the long run’ shows this. Please remember that to succeed in Jyotish one has to leave personal preferences behind. For all those who wish to make predictions about the US Elections, please do this NOW and not in the middle of November! With best regards, Sanjay Rath SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com Chart data taken from the following mail ------------------ vidyut_bhatt [vidyut_bhatt ] Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:32 PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart of Chandrababu Naidu( Study by HP Theory) Hello Friends,I must thank Sri P V N RAO ji of VA for birth details of SriChandrababu Naidu CM (presently) of Andhra Pradesh.It would be improper for me to forecast outcome of elections in Indiaand AP, but I cannot resist analysing his horoscope using HP method.I am giving below the birth details of Mr.Naidu for students like meto analyse.20th April 1950, 11:28:35 am IST, 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 ::om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya:: Dear Jyotisa, Narasimha, Ramdas Rao, Sanjay P and others, This is regarding the so called 'PREDICTIONS' about Chandrababu Naidu. Please stop congratulating each other. Five years back there was a lot of criticism Shri K.N.Rao got because he made predictions AFTER the exit polls. I ask - is this Jyotish?. If you wanted to make predictions should this not be done much before the election process kicks off? In fact the congrats should go to Mr. P. ROY of NDTV who made the prediction on TV based on EXIT POLLS. Everyone else has only copied his prediction or opposed it. A Jyotish prediction is one that is made before the event takes place and NOT after it is done. Now coming to the points – Tithi Pravesa Chart – The TP chart for Chandrababu Naidu that I get based on the data provided in a letter of Mr. Vidyut Bhatt is givern below. Naidu, Chandrababu Annual TP April 22, 2004 Time: 2:44:25 pm Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" Lunar Yr-Mo: Tarana - Vaisakha Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (38.11% left) Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) Nakshatra: Rohini (Mo) (99.27% left) Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) Karana: Garija (Ju) Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le) Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Ta) Kaala Lord: Rahu (Mahakala: Rahu) BASIC PRINCIPLE OF TP The first rule is to check the placement of the annual lagna as compared to natal Lagna. The Varsa Lagna is in Leo in the 3rd house which is a bad house. Karaka for this house is Mars and fights and setbacks should be naturally expected. The Hora Lord is Mars. It lords the 4th, 9th and Badhak houses of the TP Chart. Now look at these houses. We have an ECLIPSE yoga of the Sun & Rähu in the 9th house in Badhak sthäna. It is well known that a solar eclipse causes the fall of kings. Since this is occurring in Bhagya sthäna this will cause terrible misfortune. Next take Vara – this is Thursday ruled by Jupiter. Now go back to nata chart and see what Guru has to say. Guru is well placed in 9th house. His health will be good and he will still have some fortune left even after the eclipse. Now look at the Äruòha in the TP chart. The AL is in Dhanus with ONLY Sanidev and debilitated Mercury aspecting AL and 10th house from AL. the Äruòha is Finished this year. Look at the satrupada A6. This is in Scorpio with exalted Moon in 7th house (enemy will get fame and public support) and Jupter is in 10th house from A6 (enemy will get the blessings of God)… Now see the dasas. Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): Le: 2004-04-22 (2:44:25 pm) - 2004-05-08 (9:49:34 am) Cp: 2004-05-08 (9:49:34 am) - 2004-05-31 (11:55:14 am) Ge: 2004-05-31 (11:55:14 am) - 2004-06-26 (3:26:13 am) Sc: 2004-06-26 (3:26:13 am) - 2004-07-14 (1:02:42 pm) The daçä of Capricorn is from May 8, 2004 to 31 may 2004 during which period the Äruòha will be destroyed as Saturn its lord sits in the 7th from AL and this is the 2nd house from AL. Not that the enemies will fare very well as Saturn promises to be a kantaka for them as well. I don’t know what this means in politics but maybe some TRS and Cong stuff is waiting to be seen. Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi Pravesha charts): Mars: 2004-04-05 (10:54:43 am) - 2004-05-03 (9:21:20 pm) Merc: 2004-05-03 (9:21:20 pm) - 2004-07-02 (5:00:53 pm) Sat: 2004-07-02 (5:00:53 pm) - 2004-08-06 (4:51:52 pm) Jup: 2004-08-06 (4:51:52 pm) - 2004-10-14 (2:27:35 am) Rah: 2004-10-14 (2:27:35 am) - 2004-11-25 (12:25:15 am) Ven: 2004-11-25 (12:25:15 am) - 2005-02-08 (5:44:54 am) Sun: 2005-02-08 (5:44:54 am) - 2005-03-02 (3:08:19 am) Moon: 2005-03-02 (3:08:19 am) - 2005-04-24 (9:38:47 am) Mars: 2005-04-24 (9:38:47 am) - 2005-05-22 (7:50:20 pm) The TA daçä is of Mars during this period and Mars is clearly the Lord of Satrupada and is aspecting the A6 and 10th from A6 with graha drishti. No doubt that the enemy will fight well. Incidentally Dr.Rajasekhara Reddy of the Congress is a medical doctor (MARS). It is not that TP is wrong. I was told about the letter of Narasimha t the lists but his ‘bias’ seemed evident in the mail. Statements like ‘even if he loses he will still do very well in the long run’ shows this. Please remember that to succeed in Jyotish one has to leave personal preferences behind. For all those who wish to make predictions about the US Elections, please do this NOW and not in the middle of November! With best regards, Sanjay Rath SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com Chart data taken from the following mail ------------------ vidyut_bhatt [vidyut_bhatt ] Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:32 PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart of Chandrababu Naidu( Study by HP Theory) Hello Friends,I must thank Sri P V N RAO ji of VA for birth details of SriChandrababu Naidu CM (presently) of Andhra Pradesh.It would be improper for me to forecast outcome of elections in Indiaand AP, but I cannot resist analysing his horoscope using HP method.I am giving below the birth details of Mr.Naidu for students like meto analyse.20th April 1950, 11:28:35 am IST, 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 Pranaam Sanjay, Thank you for chipping in with the advice and also the TP analysis. When judging AL and also Cp Narayana dasa, you seemed to consider Saturn's placement in 7th from AL as bad. However, you taught us earlier that Saturn in 7th from AL gives raja yoga (Parasara taught it too). Agreed, weekday and house placement of annual TP lagna from natal lagna are not favorable. But, what about the hora lord's involvement in a raja yoga in the 10th house? Hora lord Mars owns rajya sahamam also and aspects it along with 10th lord Venus. Your point about Rahu eclipsing lagna lord Sun is interesting. I did consider it before. But Sun is in the 9th degree of Aries, close to his deep exaltation point, while Rahu is in the 18th degree of Aries. There is some distance between them. More importantly, 5th (and AL!) lord Jupiter occupies lagna and aspects Sun and Rahu. Jupiter is in the 16th degree of Leo. When Sun is being eclipsed, you taught once, Jupiter is the only one able to save Sun. Here Jupiter has a close aspect on Rahu and Sun. Won't he rescue lagna lord Sun? Being the lord of 5th house in 1st in annual TP chart and being a giver of raja yoga in the 9th house in Naidu's natal chart, won't Guru save him from the eclipse? Moreover, doesn't the Mars-Venus raja yoga (DKY) in the 10th house, involving the hora lord, matter at all? Thank you for your analysis, but honestly I am not fully convinced. Even if I wasn't biased at all, I am not sure if I would've predicted the downfall just based on TP. More than making correct predictions, I am interested in getting correct knowledge. That is the most important thing to me. If that is there, the rest will automatically fall in place sooner or later. From that point of view, I am not fully satisfied with your explanation. * * * Another thing that I did not mention but paid close attention to was the D-60 of annual TP chart. In my own chart, I am giving a lot of importance to D-60 in natal, annual, monthly and daily charts and it seems to pay off. I did the same thing in Naidu's case. Compressed Moola dasa of Venus runs during 29 April to 15 June, 2004. In D-60, lagna lord Saturn is exalted in 9th and joins 10th lord Mars. Venus is their dispositor. He is a yogakaraka and occupies 11th. I gave a lot of importance to D-60, in addition to rasi, and figured Venus shows good results in May. Well, my lazy quick-fix rectification was probably wrong and the D-60 lagna is Pisces instead of Aquarius, making Venus the 3rd and 8th lord in 10th, rather than the 4th and 9th lord in 11th. * * * As you said, I may have been biased. Naidu did a lot of good for my state. The populist promises of Congress like giving free electricity to farmers etc will increase the debt of the state and can undo a lot of Naidu's good work over the last 10 years. Most of these political leaders are too happy to be Chief Minister for one day. They have no vision and do not care about what happens to the state after them. They are ready to do anything, which includes destroying the future of the state, just to get power. Naidu showed vision, courage, made some bold reforms and made some unpopular, yet wise, choices. He paid for it! May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha - Sanjay Rath 'vidyut_bhatt' ; vedic astrology Cc: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao ; Ramadas Rao ; Sanjay Prabhakaran ; sanjayp (AT) (DOT) org Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:10 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart of Chandrababu Naidu( Study by HP Theory) ::om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya:: Dear Jyotisa, Narasimha, Ramdas Rao, Sanjay P and others, This is regarding the so called 'PREDICTIONS' about Chandrababu Naidu. Please stop congratulating each other. Five years back there was a lot of criticism Shri K.N.Rao got because he made predictions AFTER the exit polls. I ask - is this Jyotish?. If you wanted to make predictions should this not be done much before the election process kicks off? In fact the congrats should go to Mr. P. ROY of NDTV who made the prediction on TV based on EXIT POLLS. Everyone else has only copied his prediction or opposed it. A Jyotish prediction is one that is made before the event takes place and NOT after it is done. Now coming to the points – Tithi Pravesa Chart – The TP chart for Chandrababu Naidu that I get based on the data provided in a letter of Mr. Vidyut Bhatt is givern below. Naidu, Chandrababu Annual TP April 22, 2004 Time: 2:44:25 pm Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" Lunar Yr-Mo: Tarana - Vaisakha Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (38.11% left) Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) Nakshatra: Rohini (Mo) (99.27% left) Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) Karana: Garija (Ju) Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le) Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Ta) Kaala Lord: Rahu (Mahakala: Rahu) BASIC PRINCIPLE OF TP The first rule is to check the placement of the annual lagna as compared to natal Lagna. The Varsa Lagna is in Leo in the 3rd house which is a bad house. Karaka for this house is Mars and fights and setbacks should be naturally expected. The Hora Lord is Mars. It lords the 4th, 9th and Badhak houses of the TP Chart. Now look at these houses. We have an ECLIPSE yoga of the Sun & Rähu in the 9th house in Badhak sthäna. It is well known that a solar eclipse causes the fall of kings. Since this is occurring in Bhagya sthäna this will cause terrible misfortune. Next take Vara – this is Thursday ruled by Jupiter. Now go back to nata chart and see what Guru has to say. Guru is well placed in 9th house. His health will be good and he will still have some fortune left even after the eclipse. Now look at the Äruòha in the TP chart. The AL is in Dhanus with ONLY Sanidev and debilitated Mercury aspecting AL and 10th house from AL. the Äruòha is Finished this year. Look at the satrupada A6. This is in Scorpio with exalted Moon in 7th house (enemy will get fame and public support) and Jupter is in 10th house from A6 (enemy will get the blessings of God)… Now see the dasas. Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): Le: 2004-04-22 (2:44:25 pm) - 2004-05-08 (9:49:34 am) Cp: 2004-05-08 (9:49:34 am) - 2004-05-31 (11:55:14 am) Ge: 2004-05-31 (11:55:14 am) - 2004-06-26 (3:26:13 am) Sc: 2004-06-26 (3:26:13 am) - 2004-07-14 (1:02:42 pm) The daçä of Capricorn is from May 8, 2004 to 31 may 2004 during which period the Äruòha will be destroyed as Saturn its lord sits in the 7th from AL and this is the 2nd house from AL. Not that the enemies will fare very well as Saturn promises to be a kantaka for them as well. I don’t know what this means in politics but maybe some TRS and Cong stuff is waiting to be seen. Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi Pravesha charts): Mars: 2004-04-05 (10:54:43 am) - 2004-05-03 (9:21:20 pm) Merc: 2004-05-03 (9:21:20 pm) - 2004-07-02 (5:00:53 pm) Sat: 2004-07-02 (5:00:53 pm) - 2004-08-06 (4:51:52 pm) Jup: 2004-08-06 (4:51:52 pm) - 2004-10-14 (2:27:35 am) Rah: 2004-10-14 (2:27:35 am) - 2004-11-25 (12:25:15 am) Ven: 2004-11-25 (12:25:15 am) - 2005-02-08 (5:44:54 am) Sun: 2005-02-08 (5:44:54 am) - 2005-03-02 (3:08:19 am) Moon: 2005-03-02 (3:08:19 am) - 2005-04-24 (9:38:47 am) Mars: 2005-04-24 (9:38:47 am) - 2005-05-22 (7:50:20 pm) The TA daçä is of Mars during this period and Mars is clearly the Lord of Satrupada and is aspecting the A6 and 10th from A6 with graha drishti. No doubt that the enemy will fight well. Incidentally Dr.Rajasekhara Reddy of the Congress is a medical doctor (MARS). It is not that TP is wrong. I was told about the letter of Narasimha t the lists but his ‘bias’ seemed evident in the mail. Statements like ‘even if he loses he will still do very well in the long run’ shows this. Please remember that to succeed in Jyotish one has to leave personal preferences behind. For all those who wish to make predictions about the US Elections, please do this NOW and not in the middle of November! With best regards, Sanjay Rath SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com Chart data taken from the following mail ------------------ vidyut_bhatt [vidyut_bhatt ] Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:32 PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart of Chandrababu Naidu( Study by HP Theory) Hello Friends,I must thank Sri P V N RAO ji of VA for birth details of SriChandrababu Naidu CM (presently) of Andhra Pradesh.It would be improper for me to forecast outcome of elections in Indiaand AP, but I cannot resist analysing his horoscope using HP method.I am giving below the birth details of Mr.Naidu for students like meto analyse.20th April 1950, 11:28:35 am IST, 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sanjay Ji, I learnt how to read TP chart from you now. Now regarding exit poll or entry polls, I am least bothered as I dont have time to watch TV. When somebody send the details of Shri Naidu, I just analysed and gave my own predictions. If it matches with Exit polls,I am extremely sorry that I am not connected with such polls.I am alone here in Kuwait,have to cook my food, prayers, shift duty etc. gives me only 5-6 hrs. of sleep per day.Then I will be in Internet in VA list reading the different mails and if I find any interest,write some articles.I dont have even 15 minutes to watch TV also. In such a case if you tell me or anybody that my analysis comes after exit polls,that is not my problem at all. I do my duty of analysing the chart and the rest I leave the things to Lord Krishna. Very important thing is that actually I am not interested in any political figures but as somebody asked this time, I just analysed the chart. If you find anything wrong in my analysis ,please let me know the same. I hope I have not written anything wrong. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Sanjay Rath <guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote:  ::om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya:: Dear Jyotisa, Narasimha, Ramdas Rao, Sanjay P and others, This is regarding the so called 'PREDICTIONS' about Chandrababu Naidu. Please stop congratulating each other. Five years back there was a lot of criticism Shri K.N.Rao got because he made predictions AFTER the exit polls. I ask - is this Jyotish?. If you wanted to make predictions should this not be done much before the election process kicks off? In fact the congrats should go to Mr. P. ROY of NDTV who made the prediction on TV based on EXIT POLLS. Everyone else has only copied his prediction or opposed it. A Jyotish prediction is one that is made before the event takes place and NOT after it is done. Now coming to the points – Tithi Pravesa Chart – The TP chart for Chandrababu Naidu that I get based on the data provided in a letter of Mr. Vidyut Bhatt is givern below. Naidu, Chandrababu Annual TP April 22, 2004 Time: 2:44:25 pm Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" Lunar Yr-Mo: Tarana - Vaisakha Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (38.11% left) Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) Nakshatra: Rohini (Mo) (99.27% left) Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) Karana: Garija (Ju) Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le) Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Ta) Kaala Lord: Rahu (Mahakala: Rahu) BASIC PRINCIPLE OF TP The first rule is to check the placement of the annual lagna as compared to natal Lagna. The Varsa Lagna is in Leo in the 3rd house which is a bad house. Karaka for this house is Mars and fights and setbacks should be naturally expected. The Hora Lord is Mars. It lords the 4th, 9th and Badhak houses of the TP Chart. Now look at these houses. We have an ECLIPSE yoga of the Sun & Rähu in the 9th house in Badhak sthäna. It is well known that a solar eclipse causes the fall of kings. Since this is occurring in Bhagya sthäna this will cause terrible misfortune. Next take Vara – this is Thursday ruled by Jupiter. Now go back to nata chart and see what Guru has to say. Guru is well placed in 9th house. His health will be good and he will still have some fortune left even after the eclipse. Now look at the Äruòha in the TP chart. The AL is in Dhanus with ONLY Sanidev and debilitated Mercury aspecting AL and 10th house from AL. the Äruòha is Finished this year. Look at the satrupada A6. This is in Scorpio with exalted Moon in 7th house (enemy will get fame and public support) and Jupter is in 10th house from A6 (enemy will get the blessings of God)… Now see the dasas. Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): Le: 2004-04-22 (2:44:25 pm) - 2004-05-08 (9:49:34 am) Cp: 2004-05-08 (9:49:34 am) - 2004-05-31 (11:55:14 am) Ge: 2004-05-31 (11:55:14 am) - 2004-06-26 (3:26:13 am) Sc: 2004-06-26 (3:26:13 am) - 2004-07-14 (1:02:42 pm) The daçä of Capricorn is from May 8, 2004 to 31 may 2004 during which period the Äruòha will be destroyed as Saturn its lord sits in the 7th from AL and this is the 2nd house from AL. Not that the enemies will fare very well as Saturn promises to be a kantaka for them as well. I don’t know what this means in politics but maybe some TRS and Cong stuff is waiting to be seen. Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi Pravesha charts): Mars: 2004-04-05 (10:54:43 am) - 2004-05-03 (9:21:20 pm) Merc: 2004-05-03 (9:21:20 pm) - 2004-07-02 (5:00:53 pm) Sat: 2004-07-02 (5:00:53 pm) - 2004-08-06 (4:51:52 pm) Jup: 2004-08-06 (4:51:52 pm) - 2004-10-14 (2:27:35 am) Rah: 2004-10-14 (2:27:35 am) - 2004-11-25 (12:25:15 am) Ven: 2004-11-25 (12:25:15 am) - 2005-02-08 (5:44:54 am) Sun: 2005-02-08 (5:44:54 am) - 2005-03-02 (3:08:19 am) Moon: 2005-03-02 (3:08:19 am) - 2005-04-24 (9:38:47 am) Mars: 2005-04-24 (9:38:47 am) - 2005-05-22 (7:50:20 pm) The TA daçä is of Mars during this period and Mars is clearly the Lord of Satrupada and is aspecting the A6 and 10th from A6 with graha drishti. No doubt that the enemy will fight well. Incidentally Dr.Rajasekhara Reddy of the Congress is a medical doctor (MARS). It is not that TP is wrong. I was told about the letter of Narasimha t the lists but his ‘bias’ seemed evident in the mail. Statements like ‘even if he loses he will still do very well in the long run’ shows this. Please remember that to succeed in Jyotish one has to leave personal preferences behind. For all those who wish to make predictions about the US Elections, please do this NOW and not in the middle of November! With best regards, Sanjay Rath SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com Chart data taken from the following mail ------------------ vidyut_bhatt [vidyut_bhatt ] Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:32 PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: Chart of Chandrababu Naidu( Study by HP Theory) Hello Friends,I must thank Sri P V N RAO ji of VA for birth details of SriChandrababu Naidu CM (presently) of Andhra Pradesh.It would be improper for me to forecast outcome of elections in Indiaand AP, but I cannot resist analysing his horoscope using HP method.I am giving below the birth details of Mr.Naidu for students like meto analyse.20th April 1950, 11:28:35 am IST, 79 E 25' 00", 13 N 39' 00" Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. 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