As of late, in the year 2007, the idea of whether Lord Rama exists or not has been called into question, by no less than some of the politicians in India. So it is a wonder how such persons can be accepted as leaders of the people of India who should be concerned with preserving and protecting the culture of the country.
Obviously, they are neither concerned nor aware of the depths of information that can be found in support of the traditions for which India is especially known. Or, they are really attempting to dismantle or destroy the authority of the timeless nature of the civilization of the country.
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In regard to Lord Rama, the point about ancient history is that the farther you go back in time, the fewer references you can use that actually refer to the incident in history. There may be many commentaries, but few quotations to the actual events.
However, when it comes to the Ramayana and the history of Lord Rama, there have been numerous authors who have accepted the Ramayana as a history of ancient events. For example, the first Governor General of India, Sri Rajaji, wrote on the Ramayana and called it a history, as also did the English Indologist Sir William Jones. Various other western authors have made a study of the culture and history of the Ramayana, such as Philip Lutgendorf in his book Rama’s Story in Shiva’s City, California University; Joe Burkhalter Flueckiger and Laurie Sears in The Boundaries of Traditional Ramayana and Mahabharata Performances in South and Southeast Asia, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor; W. L. Smith on Ramayan Traditions in Eastern India, University of Stockholm, and others.
There are also numerous places that are indicated as the locations where various events happened in reference to the pastimes of Lord Rama and Sita. Thus, they are accepted as historical sites. I have personally visited many of these places, such as Ramesvaram, Nasik, Hampi, and others where there are particular locations and sites that are related to the events that took place in the life and adventures of Lord Rama. Many people accept these sites as the locations for the events described in the Ramayana. So how can this be unless there are not some reality behind it?
However, why is there not more archaeological evidence that points towards Rama’s existence? Because such an effort has not been made in India and systematic excavations have never been carried out, says historian Nandita Krishnan. She says that to doubt the existence of Rama is to doubt all literature. There is little archaeological or epigraphic evidence for either Jesus Christ or Prophet Mohammed, who are known only from the Bible and Koran respectively. Does it mean they did not exist? If Rama performs miracles such as liberating Ahalya, the Biblical story of Jesus walking on water or the Koranic tale of Mohammed flying to heaven on a horse are equally miraculous. Such stories reinforce divinity.
She also describes in summary what areas the events of Lord Rama’s life took place. She explains: “The Ramayana is geographically very correct. Every site on Rama’s route is still identifiable and has continuing traditions or temples to commemorate Rama’s visit. Around 1000 BC or earlier, no writer had the means to travel around the country inventing a story, fitting it into local folklore and building temples for greater credibility.
“In 1975 the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) unearthed fourteen pillar bases of kasauti stone with Hindu motifs near the mosque at Ayodhya; reports of the excavations are available with the ASI. Rama was born in Ayodhya and married in Mithila, now in Nepal. Not far from Mithila is Sitamarhi, where Sita was found in a furrow, still revered as the Janaki kund constructed by her father Janaka. Rama and Sita left Mithila for Ayodhya via Lumbini. In 249 BC, Ashoka erected a pillar in Lumbini with an inscription referring to the visits by both Rama and Buddha to Lumbini. Ashoka was much nearer in time to Rama and would be well aware of his facts.
“Rama, Lakshmana and Sita left Ayodhya and went to Sringaverapura – modern Sringverpur in Uttar Pradesh – where they crossed the River Ganga. They lived on Chitrakoot hill where Bharata and Shatrughna met them and the brothers performed the last rites for their father. Thereafter, the three wandered through Dandakaranya in Central India, described as a land of Rakshasas, obviously tribes inimical to the brothers’ habitation of their land. Tribals are still found in these forests. The trio reached Nasik, on the River Godavari, which throbs with sites and events of Rama’s sojourn, such as Tapovan where they lived, Ramkund where Rama and Sita used to bathe, Lakshmankund, Lakshmana’s bathing area, and several caves in the area associated with their lives in the forest.
“Rama then moved to Panchavati near Bhadrachalam (AP), where Ravana abducted Sita. The dying Jatayu told them of the abduction, so they left in search of Sita. Kishkinda, near Hampi, where Rama first met Sugriva and Hanuman, is a major Ramayana site, where every rock and river is associated with Rama. Anjanadri, near Hospet, was the birthplace of Hanuman (Anjaneya); Sugriva lived in Rishyamukha on the banks of the Pampa (Tungabhadra); Sabari probably also lived in a hermitage there. Rama and the Vanara army left Kishkinda to reach Rameshwaram, where the Vanaras built a bridge to Lanka from Dhanushkodi on Rameshwaram Island to Talaimannar in Sri Lanka. While parts of the bridge – known as Adam’s Bridge – are still visible, NASA’s satellite has photographed an underwater man-made bridge of shoals in the Palk Straits, connecting Dhanushkodi and Talaimannar. On his return from Sri Lanka, Rama worshiped Shiva at Rameshwaram, where Sita prepared a Linga out of sand. It is still one of the most sacred sites of Hinduism.
“Sri Lanka also has relics of the Ramayana. There are several caves, such as Ravana Ella Falls, where Ravana is believed to have hidden Sita to prevent Rama from finding her. The Sitai Amman Temple at Numara Eliya is situated near the ashokavana where Ravana once kept her prisoner.
“All the places visited by Rama still retain memories of his visit, as if it happened yesterday. Time, in India, is relative. Some places have commemorative temples; others commemorate the visit in local folklore. But all agree that Rama was going from or to Ayodhya. Why doubt connections when literature, archaeology and local tradition meet? Why doubt the connection between Adam’s Bridge and Rama, when nobody else in Indian history has claimed its construction? Why doubt that Rama traveled through Dandakaranya or Kishkinda, where local non-Vedic tribes still narrate tales of Rama? Why doubt that he was born in and ruled over Ayodhya?
“Rama’s memory lives on because of his extraordinary life and his reign, which was obviously a period of great peace and prosperity, making Ramarajya a reference point. People only remember the very good or the very bad. Leftist historians have chosen to rubbish archaeology, literature and local tradition.”
Nandita Krishnan also adds that “Nobody believed that Homer’s Iliad was a true story till Troy was discovered after extensive archaeology. Unfortunately, the sites of the Ramayana and Mahabharata have now been built over many times and it may never be possible to excavate extensively either at Ayodhya or Mathura.”
To further verify this aspect of the history of Lord Rama, Pushkar Bhatnagar concludes that geographical evidence for the epics is abundant. There still exist many places like Rameshwaram, Kishkindha, Kurukshetra, Hastinapura, etc. where the visits of Rama and Krishna are a basic part of local folklore.
Lack of archaeological evidence is no excuse for denying the existence of history, sums up Bhatnagar. “If the buildings of that time over 7000 years ago do not exist today, can we just infer that civilizations and personalities of that time also did not exist?”
In literature, we have the Ramayana and other texts such as the Puranas which also relate and verify the history and existence of Lord Rama. People from many other regions of the world have also accepted the Ramayana as worthy of attention, devotion, and historical evidence. For example, we can see the affects of the Ramayana tradition in many countries who have adapted their own form of the Ramayana and worship of Lord Rama, especially in the countries of Southeast Asia. These include Burma (Myanmar), Cambodia (Capuchia), Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines and Vietnam. Other areas can also be found where the influence of the history of Lord Rama is in affect, such as the continent of Africa was once known as Kushadvipa for having been ruled by Kush, one of Lord Rama’s sons.
The other fact is that many millions of people feel the reciprocation from Lord Rama whenever they engage in devotion to Him, or read the Ramayana, or hear the Ramayana in a katha, or watch a television show or movie about Him, or go to one of the temples dedicated to Him. This cannot be denied or neglected. Just because we have insensitive politicians who cannot perceive this reciprocation does not mean that we all are so spiritually undeveloped. This dedication and reciprocation has spread throughout the world.
There have also been astronomers who have identified the approximate time of the Ramayana by the descriptions of the stars and constellations as given in the Ramayana, or even in the Bhagavata Purana and other texts. Pushkar Bhatnagar, author of the book Dating the Era of Lord Rama, claims that there is a significant amount of information available to prove that Rama was a historical personality. He says, “Valmiki, who wrote the Ramayana, was a contemporary of Rama. While narrating the events of the epic, he has mentioned the position of the planets at several places.” He explains that by using recent planetary software, it has been possible to verify that these planetary positions actually took place precisely as specified in the Ramayana. These were not just stray events, but the entire sequence of the planetary positions as described by Valmiki at various stages of Rama’s life can be verified today as having taken place.
Bhatnagar goes on to explain: “This information is significant, since these configurations do not repeat for lakhs of years and cannot be manipulated or imagined so accurately, without the help of sophisticated software. The inference that one can draw is that someone was present there to witness the actual happening of these configurations, which got recorded in the story of Rama.”
Bhatnagar provides the following quote from the Ramayana: “Rama was born on the Navami tithi of Shukla Paksha of Chaitra masa (9th day of the increasing phase of the moon in the lunar month of Chaitra). At that time, the nakshatra was Punarvasu, and Sun, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and Venus were in Aries, Capricorn, Libra, Cancer and Pisces respectively. Lagna was Cancer and Jupiter & Moon were shining together. — Ramayana 1.18.8,9
The conditions can be summarized as follows, according to Bhatnagar:
- Sun in Aries
- Saturn in Libra
- Jupiter in Cancer
- Venus in Pisces
- Mars in Capricorn
- Lunar month of Chaitra
- 9th day after New Moon (Navami Tithi, Shukla Paksh)
- Moon near Punarvasu Nakshatra (Pollux star in Gemini constellation)
- Cancer as Lagna (Cancer constellation rising in the east)
- Jupiter above the horizon
According to the Planetarium software, it provides the following date: Sri Rama Navami – 10th January 5114 BCE – Birth Day of Rama, Observation at 12.30 p.m.
Bhatnagar continues: “By using a powerful planetarium software, I found that the planetary positions mentioned in Ramayana for the date of birth of Lord Ram had occurred in the sky at around 12.30 p.m. of 10th January 5114 BC. It was the ninth day of the Shukla Paksh of Chaitra month too. Moving forward, after 25 years of the birth of Lord Ram, the position of planets in the sky tallies with their description in Ramayana. Again, on the amavasya (new moon) of the 10th month of the 13th year of exile the solar eclipse had indeed occurred and the particular arrangement of planets in the sky was visible. ( Date comes to 7th October, 5077 BC). Even the occurrence of subsequent two eclipses also tally with the respective description in Valmiki Ramayana. (Date of Hanuman’s meeting Sita at Lanka was 12th September, 5076 BC). In this manner the entire sequence of the planetary positions gets verified and all the dates can be precisely determined.”
Although this provides verification of the existence for Lord Rama according to calculations as given in the Ramayana, some people feel the timing for the day and year of His birth may be different than what the planetarium software indicates. For example, Vedic astrologer Nartaka Gopala devi dasi points out that “Regarding the calculation of Lord Rama’s birth as 10th of January 5114 BCE – Birth Day of Rama, Observation at 12.30 PM, there are 2 reasons why this cannot be correct. His rising sign, or lagna, is Cancer. That places Aries in the tenth house, and He has the Sun in Aries. The placement of the Sun in any birth chart will tell the time of day of the birth. Sun in the tenth house means birth at noontime (approx. 11 AM to 2 PM). There are no exceptions to this. (Lord Krishna appeared at midnight, the Sun is in Leo, 4th house for Taurus rising. Birth at 6 PM means 7th house Sun. Birth at sunrise means 1st house Sun.) Also, in Lord Rama’s chart the Sun is in Aries, and the dates for Sun in Aries are fixed, which means the same each year on April 14th to May 13th. So how did the January 10 date come up? These two Jyotish corrections are common sense that any Vedic astrologer would immediately see.” So there may be a difference in what the planetarium software suggests. This also corroborates why we who follow the Vedic calendar celebrate Lord Rama’s appearance in April-May each year. So the traditional date appears accurate.
Furthermore, some people feel that the appearance of Lord Rama took place many thousands or even millions of years earlier, in the Treta-yuga. For example, the Bhagavata Purana clearly states that Lord Rama became king during Treta yuga (Bhag. 9.10.51). We have been in Kali-yuga for 5000 years. Before this was Dvapara-yuga which lasts 864,000 years. Before that was Treta-yuga, which lasts over 1,200,000 years. Thus, according to this, the existence of Lord Rama had to have been many thousands of years ago. And if Lord Rama appeared in one of the previous Treta-yugas, it would certainly indicate that Lord Rama appeared several million years ago. And this is exactly what is corroborated in the Vayu Purana.
In the Vayu Purana (70.47-48) [published by Motilal Banarsidass] there is a description of the length of Ravana’s life. It explains that when Ravana’s merit of penance began to decline, he met Lord Rama, the son of Dasarath, in a battle wherein Ravana and his followers were killed in the 24th Tretayuga. The Roman transliteration of the verse is:
tretayuge chaturvinshe ravanastapasah kshayat
ramam dasharathim prapya saganah kshayamiyavan
There are 1000 Treta-yugas in one day of Brahma, and it is calculated that we are presently in the 28th cycle of the four yugas (called divya-yugas, which is a cycle of the four yugas, Satya-yuga, Treta-yuga, Dvapara-yuga, and then Kali-yuga) of Vaivasvata Manu, who is the seventh Manu in the series of 14 Manu rulers who exist in one kalpa or day of Brahma. Each Manu is considered to live for 71 such divya-yuga cycles. So, without getting too complicated about things, from the 24th Treta-yuga to the present age of this Kali-yuga, there is obviously a difference of millions of years when Lord Rama manifested here on earth. Of course, few people may believe this unless they are already familiar with the vast lengths of time that the Vedic literature deals with.
Nonetheless, maybe there is further reason why we should accept that Lord Rama appeared millions of years ago. In the Valmiki Ramayana, Sundara-Kanda (or Book 5), Chapter 4, verse 27, [Gita Press, Gorakhpur, India] it explains that when Hanuman first approached Ravana’s palace, he saw the doorways surrounded by horses and chariots, palanquins and aerial cars, beautiful horses and elephants, nay, with four-tusked elephants decked with jewels resembling masses of white clouds.
Elsewhere in the Valmiki Ramayana, Sundara-Kanda (or Book 5), Chapter 27, verses12, an ogress named Trijata has a dream of Lord Rama, which she describes to the other demoniac ogresses upon awakening. In that dream she sees Rama, scion of Raghu, united again with Sita. Sri Rama was mounted on a huge elephant, closely resembling a hill, with four tusks.
The question is how could there be a mention of the elephants with four tusks unless Valmiki and the people of his era were familiar with such creatures? A quick search on the Encarta Encyclopedia will let us know that these four-tusked elephants were known as Mastodontoidea, which are said to have evolved around 38 million years ago and became extinct about 15 million years ago when the shaggy and two tusked Mastodons increased in population. Now there’s something to think about, eh? So this would mean that the specific planetary configuration that is described in the Ramayana, and is verified by Pushkar Bhatnagar, may have indeed happened, but at a time millions of years prior to merely 10,000 years ago.
In this way, as we go through the evidence, we can see how Lord Rama was an actual historic personality, as described in the Ramayana and in other Puranic texts. Nonetheless, there will always be those for whom no matter what you present for verification, it will not be enough. Some just won’t believe it. Some will, some won’t, so what, let’s move on. But many in the world already accept the authority of the Ramayana and other Vedic texts for the verification of the existence of Lord Rama.
Jaya Sri Rama!
Source: dandavats.com
Shows how small and insignificant we are in relation to the cosmos
Wonderful and very informative article.
Rama bless all
Ram
Thank you very much for your giving such a detailed information on the great epic subject as Ramayana. The statements of some ruthless, Jhootebaji political statement talking against Lord Rama and Ramayana need not be cared for. Despite the presence of somuch material evidence and people’s belief for ages, it is meaningless to comment against Lord. It is popularly said Ramo Vigrahavan Dharmah! which means that the Avatar of Lord Rama is the replica of Dharma. In simple terms the statements made by such idiotic politicians must be condemned by every Hindu. Such people do not deserves to be Indians. The people who do not want to live according to Hindu culture may be asked to adopt some other religion and even then they should not to talk ill of the World’s great Religion called Hinduism and other epic books. Such people are the real demons or rakshas who got ill feelings about Lord Rama. Their view may be that not since Lord Rama is not available they can talk anything because Lord Rama can’t come and punish them now. If Lord Rama Can’t punish they will face the music in some other fashion.
Hindus are the only religious community least bothers to look into their facts neither attempts to find out. They are also not proud of telling about them and instead feeling inferior to express themselves….
jai shri ram siyavar ramchandra ki jai ho
If one is not believing in this, Ramayama can be taken as a biography of Srirama. This will prove that it was existing.k
Matter & Energy is one combination which is
a basic primordial force. This is called Aadhi Sakthi which is Ram. When it manifests, it
becomes Parasakthi. it becomes Feminine.
This is Sita. Lakshmana is Gnana Sakthi while Bharata, Satrugna and the main animal character, Hanuman are all Ichcha
& Kriya Sakthi. Thus 5 elements constitute
cosmic energy which are symbolic for human beings to understand the basic living in this mundane world. Work is worship which has to be mandatory. Product of Work in any form is to be given to The Society | Nation keeping minimum requirement for sustenance. One gains Wisdom by doing this act. Thus human beings which are nothing but spark from the primordial force, have to function. This basic philosophy if we learn from the great epic, Ramayan, it will give clear picture how people lived in those days.
Finally the word, Ram denotes three notes
Ra is Agnibhijam which is Galaxy of Stars elimanating sins while A is Suryabhijam which is Sun, The main Star,making us matured in life. M is Chandrabhijam removing all hurdles in life which is Symbolic to Moon..
so let us be proud of all this,based on logics and attribute to the facts as embodied in literature.
Rather than,be betrayed by the Europeans,as they claim the many mircales in Christianty or any other such.Be proud of Vedanata and Dharma.
chandru g advani yokohama japan
Although existence Lord Rama cannot be doubted, time frame of his birth and entire episode has been questioned with documents. Possibly, central govt. should take initiative to find out the truth in public interest. It is already late as generation gap is widening. The Ramayana, the epic, must bear the proven validity in all respects for the whole world, the next generations and today’s public in India and elsewhere. It should be valid Indian history.
Should not there be a slogan,like others, ” Ram Rajya- Saach keya hai? Sarkari nathi banao.”
Thank you for this enlightening essay on Lord Ram.
It is unfortunate that some modern Indian politicians will not support the illustrious glory of the Sanatana Dharma. That is their ignorance.
I do not how to say thanks to such a great article.
So much efforts has been taken to put forth our rich culture and our great lord Rama.
It is combination of history and dedication to our god then only such nice article can be written.
Felt so lcuky to read.
Thanks may lord Ramas blessings be with you.
RAMSETU controversy started when congress ruled,they were to please DMK,there was support of CPI,CPM–all nastic group,&at top was a foreigner who knows nothing about indian culture,history, just happened to be in india in some circumstance.now a true govt rules which is reviving culture,history–v should b proud of such development
Good info’n.Let us study on history n geography and confirmations to prove it.Dont give any concern to negative comments as long we have proofs to the extent possible.
Who ever wrote this article obviously has not any research in regards to jesus’s historical presence. The author claims the only evidence of Jesus existance is from the bible which is not at all true. There are written records of the execution of jesus from the non-Christian roman emperors that ruled Jerusalem at that time as well as inscriptions dating back to the 2nd century near the place he was killed.
whatever he may be, Rama remains to a large number of people in India and elsewhere as a legendary leader of highest morality.
24the Tretha yuga being millions of years before current 28th Kaliyuga ( in Current Today of Brahma) is valid; hence a matching constellation configuration 10000 years ago , cannot be the sole criteria for accepting the 10000 years ago date as valid. In case that date is otherwise acceptable, the doubt regarding the date being in January can be removed when we remember that the Current Western calendar has undergone several revisions – Julian _ Gregorian etc. named after Popes- and in transitions between these calendars, 2-4 months have been swallowed cumulatively. Even Christmas was not in Dec 25 earlier.
Elaborately Explained. Valmiki also mentioned as long as there are Trees, Mountains, Oceans exists on Earth, Ramayana is recited. RAMA is a Noble King remembered for ever.
Great article, and an impartial summary of evidences for Rama.
Whether or not the Indian Epics are 100% true, the point is that a person can rise to Godly levels by understanding and doing his Dharma.
The miracle events like the re-animation of Ahalya have, for centuries, been narrated NEVER to glorify the godly magical powers of Sri Rama, but to illustrate the purity of the Prince, the redemptive power of purity and the cycle of sin and forgiveness. In that sense, the miracle events cannot be equated in spirit to other such miracle events of Christ or Moses. In these latter cases, the purpose was to show the inherent god in the person. In Ramayana, the purpose is to show what a man can be and do, purely through his Dharma and his character. Further, Sri Rama himself did not ‘know’ that he was an Avatar of Vishna, unlike in the case of Sri Krishna….
Excellent Research. Kudos for the researcher and bringing out such fascinating facts about Ramayana. Needless to say, the best I ever read about Ramayana. Thanks
Oh… There are aware of richness and depth of our religion and our culture as it burns them because whoever they have sold their soul to in bribery and darkness is feeling very insecure. For an evil devil any pious presence and worship becomes a obstacle in their devilish desires. Good news is that the more they try to attack us more it strengthens our faith in Lord Rama, and all Hindu Deities. Jay Shree Ram.
Excellent article,must be read by all students before they leave school .
Disbelief in Ram and Ramayana and other sources of Hindu heritage is the brain-child of Communists being fostered at JNU. You have given a great exposition and I am very much obliged to you.
RAM naam has been extolled by many great saints of India, to name a few : Valmiki, Mahatma Kabir, Sant Ravidas, Swami Haridas, Sant Tulsidas, Sant Mira Bai, Narsi Bhagat, Samarth Ramdas (Guru of Shivaji Maharaj), Guru Nanak Dev and many other saints. Some politicians and activists are fools who have their brain in the stomach, ever hungry for publicity, power and money and we must not take these goons seriously. As the saying in Sanskrit goes: Vinash kale viperit buddhi, applies to them.
In India today, whilst the egotistical and increasingly atheistic government proceeds mainly with military posturing, uselessly flying expensive fighter jets (that cost a staggering £50,000 or so per hour in English money for instance to fly), due to maintenance and astronomical fuel costs, with the same crooked arms companies forcing Pakistan and India to buy at the same time, around 30% of Indians do not even have a toilet, and holy places like Vrindavan are covered in places in plastic bags and other rubbish, with holy forest areas where Lord Krishna Chaitanya once roamed, being torn up and replaced with concrete, and holy rivers filled with extremely toxic industrial effluent and appalling levels of human sewage, with that being untreated, leaving totally unsafe levels of fecal bacteria in the waters that pilgrims come to bathe in and drink, though I know some degree of remedial work is being attempted in these areas, but surely not enough government funds are being provided.
The Indian government needs to think about first preserving and building a culture, rather than having a decaying country and a decaying culture, whilst they uselessly squander vast sums of money to crooked arms dealers, who will deliberately try to foment war just in order to sell more arms, and the Indian alliance with Israel, a total enemy of Hinduism, is a totally blind and mistaken suicidal venture that can only end in misery, as Israel destroys all countries it comes into contact with as a matter of course, even when it says it is in alliance with those countries, as the Judaic culture is racist, supremacist, megalomaniac, and threatens the nuclear destruction of the entire planet with the Samson Option nuclear weapons if all other peoples on this planet do not obey, serve and protect Israel with their very lives, as all Gentiles are considered by Judaism as only slaves at best, and at worst, eternally non-living and irredeemable demons who are to be sent back to hell once they have served their purpose as slaves to build the Judaic NWO one world government which is intended to be based in Jerusalem, which intends to destroy all other religions on this planet.
Please read the following article, and consider whether such people can really be the friends of the Indian people and their spiritual culture, even if they are pretending to support India against possible violence from Pakistan. This is highly relevant to the future welfare of the spiritual culture and even the very lives of the Indian people, as it reveals the true inner nature of the people who say they wish to ‘help’ India; “Why Is The US Honoring A Racist Rabbi”, Alison Weir, CounterPunch.
By complex political arrangement, Europe and America are now being flooded with ‘Muslim’ refugees including many terrorists smuggled in amongst them, whilst Israel supplies arms, and even surgical help to ISIS terrorists, even sending Israeli commandos to rescue wounded ISIS terrorists and treat them in Israeli military hospitals, before returning them to the battleground, even whilst dishonest Israeli politicians tells us that ISIS is at war with Israel to cover up the real truth, as they are in truth all mercenaries as Mr Putin has said, though Mr Putin has neglected to state that these ISIS mercenaries in fact are not real Muslims for the most part, and work for Israel and those countries whose governments also work in truth only for Israel.
When the Indian government stops military collaboration with Israel, it will save a lot of money in the end and much more, allowing for funds to be freed to regenerate spiritual places in India.
As long as Israeli politicians are interacting with Indian politicians, the Israelis will deliberately try to undermine their spirituality in a very powerful, even occult manner, and will mislead them to destruction, as they do to every nation they start to influence, as the Judaic religion desires only the following;
Deuteronomy 20:15
“This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
Deuteronomy 7:1-2New International Version (NIV)
Driving Out the Nations
7 “When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
Deuteronomy 20:17
“Completely destroy them–the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites–as the LORD your God has commanded you.
Joshua 6:21
“They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it–men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.”
Such are the Godless people who will not recognize Lord Krishna, only their own Yahweh, who will secretly seek only to destroy the Indian peole and their spiritual culture.
जय श्री राम।
There is a book history of ram by p k hari .
In it why in 5114 bce chaitra sukla navmi which usually falls in march april has moved back to 10th january as in Gregorian calende , a difference of 74 days is explained in detail.
A very thorough well resarched article on lord rama existence.
Should be translated into hindi too and sent to all hindu parliamentarians who come on tv..
Will definitely help them argue better.
The least this govt under Modi could do is to immediatly announce a proper excavation and carbon dating of all important sites all over india, nepal and sri lanka from whatever rocks, caves,inscriptions, water bodies still present.
That is if it doesn’t want our children to continue to tell us..this is all mythology.(as propagated by the British.).. the word mytholog comes from the word..mithya or untruth..
A distinction must be drawn between characters, historical events and the embroidery of romance. Shakespeare’s “Julius Ceasar” is a play. It draws on Plutarch for facts of History which cannot themselves be truly verified. But the characters are real and the principal events are drawn from History. Yet, Antony’s peroration flows entirely from the genius of Shakespeare. As does Polonius’ advise to his son in Hamlet which is as sagacious as bits of Vidura Neethis. Vidura Neethi and Sanath Sujatheeyam by the way are far more worthy of study than the Kitsch Bhagavad Geeta that was popularized to fill the vacuum that was created when the British began to exterminate Brahmins in 1857 and thereafter, put their stooges of the “Justice Party” (the so called “Dravid” movement and parties) on the job in 1921. The Ramayana and the Mahabharatha are masterly pieces of literature that make Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey look somewhat amateur. They revolve around real characters and portray the culture and ambience of the times very well. BUT, History they are not. But then, is there any History? The Shroutha Smartha (Oral tradtional) History has been discredited together with Brahmanism. History is now a mythology of political convenience. Nowhere is this so true as in the India of Ashoka’s edicts, Indira Gandhi’s time capsules and where the Parliament stood up, in one accord in 2012, to remove cartoons published in 1948 from Government approved School History text books..
भगवान राम में ये सब गुण है. १. सद्गुणों में प्रीती. २. मीठे वचन ३. दान देने की तीव्र इच्छा शक्ति. ४. मित्रो के साथ कपट रहित व्यवहार. ५. गुरु की उपस्थिति में विनम्रता ६. मन की गहरी शान्ति. ६. शुद्ध आचरण ७. गुणों की परख ८. शास्त्र के ज्ञान की अनुभूति ८. रूप की सुन्दरता ९. भगवत भक्ति.
O Raghava, the love of virtue, pleasing speech, and an ardent desire for performing acts of charity, guileless dealings with friends, humility in the guru’s presence , deep tranquillity of mind, pure conduct, discernment of virtues, realised knowledge of the sastras, beauty of form and devotion to God are all found in you.” (The great sage Vasistha Muni, the spiritual preceptor of the dynasty of the sun, said this to Lord Ramachandra at the time of His proposed coronation).
कल्प तरु तो एक लकड़ी ही है. सुवर्ण का सुमेर पर्वत तो निश्छल है. चिंता मणि तो एक पत्थर है. सूर्य में ताप है. चन्द्रमा तो घटता बढ़ता रहता है. अमर्याद समुद्र तो खारा है. काम देव का तो शरीर ही जल गया. महाराज बलि तो राक्षस कुल में पैदा हुए. कामधेनु तो पशु ही है. भगवान् राम के समान कौन है.
The desire tree is wood; the golden Mount Meru is motionless; the wish-fulfilling gem cintamani is just a stone; the sun is scorching; the moon is prone to wane; the boundless ocean is saline; the demigod of lust lost his body (due to Shiva’s wrath); Bali Maharaja, the son of Diti, was born into a clan of demons; and Kamadhenu (the cow of heaven) is a mere beast. O Lord of the Raghu dynasty! I cannot compare you to any one of these (taking their merits into account).
Dear All,
I had a REAL Darshan of LOrd Hanuman at 6.00AM 20 years ago on a Hanuman Jayanthi day as per Tamil Calender. He was in Praying mood with hands folded and Chanted RAM ans disappeared. I had been doing a Namaskar( Prostating) at that time and my hands were very close to His Feet with dark hairs. He was looking very gigantic 8ft tall and looked around 45 years old. I am thus convinced about the existence of Sri. Hanuman and thus Rama and all.
Thanks for giving us such a detailed account of the life and movements of Sri Rama.
We need to only pity the critics of Rama. Such manda-buddhis cannot comprehend the details, cannot digest the details, whereas it is easier to question them and thereby collect a few like-minded manda-buddhis to support them. When we cannot decode some subject, it is only natural to poo-poo it ! It is unfortunate that India was ruled by Muslim and Christian dynasties for centuries, who systematically eliminated possibilities of intense excavations to bring out the Hindu culture and history of India and did their best to convert the Hindus to their fold by temptation and threat, which continues even today through the assistance of such manda-buddhi politicians and writers!….Major Ramanujam.
If all what is true and not fiction. then one has to accept that Rama and his people were far behind in inventions than Ravana and his people of Lanka.
This has to be a logical conclusion from the fact Rama had to a Bridge built by Monkeys under the Engineering of Mayan. After defeating Ravan Rama and Sita flew back to Ayodya by Puspak Vimana all looted from Ravana’s wealth.
Hence the Vimana and the flying technology was a loot from Sri Lanka. Just like America and Russia looted the German Scientists and rocket technology after World War II. the present day Indian aeronautics and rocket engineering knowledge is a war Loot of Ram Ravana epic war.
The Germans got the technology from India which itself a Lankan product in reality. Tae Lankans are said to be connected Mayans and Myan culture.
I would welcome some considered and expert views in this regard. Willing to correct myself if I am wrong.
There can be a little history in fiction also. Author says Ramayana happened 7000 years back. Well doubt arises his Rama ruled for 11000 years. Are we still under Rama’s rule? Sits was pregnant when she was sent to valmikis ashram. Rama ruled for 11000 years and handed over the reins to his 11 year old son! Some pracharaks claim that that Ramayana happened a fe lakh years back. Whom to believe? There are many such inconsistencies to be clarified so that ordinary people can judge for themselves what is history and what is fiction. Jai sreeram.
It is nice to read article written in depth. With calculation etc. So no one can deny the existence of Bhagwan RAM. It doesn’t require Britsh / or other historians writer’s acceptance of fact or their approval.
In Hinduism beside Ramayana, Mahabhart, Geeta, etc there are lot of books written on Astrology, Sex, Human body, Vastoo * architect), geology, Maths, even idols were created where ever our desires has gone. Each Idol has its own significance/ character with msg . All idols are given /shown with Vastr ( dress) , Astr (enviornment etc) and shastr ( weapons) Mata Laxmi with all prosperity and Sarswati with VENA etc, & given something to ride. If Durga is given a Lin,to ride,m Shiva a Bull How it shows Shree Ganesha a MOUSE /RAT . Shiba having all signs of Death so Bhagwan Ganesh with knowledge etc. after death there is life. so Bhagwan Ganesh is referred as Son of Shiva .. means Life after Death (Son/child). So In Hinduism all are given with long studies . Sanskrit Shiloka is wonderful . So all these you can not find elsewhere and in other religions. Even construction of OM ( symbol) which is number 3 attasched to curve as earth Moon (half circle( Sun as Round on top. 3 is common figure. Akash Dharti Pataal, Hawaa, Paanee, Khanaa, Bachpan Jawani, Budapa, Awake, Dream, Deep sleep, Sun, Moon, Earth, each fingre is having three parts etc.. My point is since all these are based on some logic so the Ramayan a true story . Think who can write in sequence from virth to fight in Sri Lanka and return to ayodhya and LUv Kush etc. sucj wonderful writing 5000 years back. BRAVO. Jai Shree Ram.
The demoniac persons never surrender to the Lotus Feet of Lord Rama or The Supreme Personality of GodHead Lord Krishna! And such foolish people never accepts their presence. When Lord Krishna descended on earth and was present on the battlefield of Kurukshetra hardly few personalities like Pandavas and Bhisma Pitamah kew that Lord Krishna was the original Personality of Godhead, rest of the populace were not knowing this fact. ..Because demons [today’s politicians] are envy of the Supreme Lord, they never know or try to understand the facts about the Lord. …..Lord Krishna Says in Bhagavad Gita, ” Na Aham prakash sarvasya, Yog Maya Samavruta! mudho ayam naabhijanati loko mam ajam avyam!!” BG 7.25… I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I am unborn and infallible.Hare Krishna!
The present times are the times when people are just worried about, purse, position, prestige and praise. These 4 Ps have made us blind and we are degenerating to abyssmal levels. One need not be surprised if after some time, the grand-child/great grand child would deny the existence of his/her own grand-/great grand father/mother. Because he/she has not seen the person. I think same logic applies to the question about Lord Rama. The sacred feelings like belief, faith, etc., have disappeared from us. We are the most RATIONALISTIC people. We never accept anything unless it is proved beyond any doubt. When people in other countries respect, praise, follow Lord Rama, we have extraordinary psychos who say ” burn those sacred texts “. We are Hindus and we hardly feel any shame to call ourselves so. Can we find a Muslim or a Christian who can dare say ” burn the Holy text “..Never. It may be due to Strong belief or due to unimaginable fear. But we?? We have no fear or total faith.
dr vartak from pune ha carried out extensive research on the astological clues given in ramayana and he places rama’s time at 9700 before christ and mahabharata at 7300 before christ and sri vartak has publishes tw books on his research..
dr. vartak has the unique distinction that HE HAS TRAVELLD TO MOON, MARS, VENUS ETC. AND WROTE TO NASA WHAT THOSE PLANETS’ PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTIC ARE LIKE AND NASA HAS ACCEPTED HIS REPORTS.. ..
i happened to hear dr vartak in mumbai a few years before in a seminar speak about his postulations..he is very much alive and living in pune presently..
he says: the sun shifts by one degree every 970 years that vasant ritu was very cold and occurred in month of decemb er and not the present month of april…
his findings are indeed very electrifying , not mere co jectures but supported by scietific verificdatioin…
Really great information. As per PADMAPURANAM tretayugam where Rama born is not this kalpam.
As per PADMAPURANAM approx.17 lakhs of years before Rama born i.e. previous kalpam.
Four YUGAs occurs one by one from crores of years.
Sorry for any mistakes.
Thanks
Very good post! Jai Shri Ram!
It is unfortunate that the so called Hindus believe western writers more. India under British, we’re so badly brain washed that it still shows.
I have been blessed to visit Chitrkoot, when traveling towards mata Anasuya’s ashram, one has to pass through sort of jungle. One look at the people, brings Tulsidass Ji description of “kole- cheek” alive.
Hundreds of hundred articles have been written about “Santana Dharam”, but so called Hindus only want to believe western writer rather than our own Vedas ……
Like they say, you can can show a rose but the fragrance has to be felt. Bhagwan Ram, has to be felt
and not seen. He is the fragrance that makes everything worth living. RAM RAM JI
Thanks to Sri Stephen Knapp for putting this
real story on Sri Rama for everybody to read,
learn and tell their children and specially grand
children. I have read couple of Sri Stephen Knapps’ books. They are very interesting to read and learn a lot about Hinduism and ancient history and my sincere thanks to him for writing on our mythology and propagating it through his books.
If one wants to really know how once Indians lived please read ‘YOGA VASISHTA’ which is also called ‘Maha Ramayana’. People of those days were more advanced than what we are to-day, in all respects. I do not really understand why such rich scripture was not available to everyone. In my view, if one is not exposed to this literature life is incomplete.
Some petty politicians, ignore the historic evidences, century old beliefs and above all our Hindu culture to meet their political gains. They forget, “what they have learned is only fistful and what they have not learned is equivalent to our universe”.
As we believe one of the last perfect Human form exists is Lord Rama.. Hence Ramayana is so holy that every time it gives us fresh energy and new ray of hope in human life.
These unscrupulous opportunistic politicians’ statements need not be given any credence/thought since the same keeps on changing
To suit their convenience. The same should be taken for zero value. However the authors’ detailed observations deserve praise from one and all Hindus
The archeological and astronomical evidence for Mahabharat exists: see BBC story of India
In Fiji the Parvasi Hindus go by Lord Ramas teaching through regular Ramayan recital. Thanks for the article clarifying the doubts of those who have. Jai shree Ram
very good artical must read by all students,
thanks a lot.
JAI SHREE RAM
SHREE RAM KI JAI HO
Well done and extensively researched.. how can I contact you pl?
JAI SHREE RAM
M.S.Balu says,
Thanks for the information. Wonderful research. Kindly translate in all languages and all school children should read.
Jai Ramji
Jai Jai Sriram
The Purana Purusha Sree Kodanda Rama Bless ALL
For those who do not believe, would they like to question their own existence? Do they know where they come from dating back thousands of years ago? Questioning the existence of Lord Rama is like questioning their own existence and an insult to their own intelligence.
EVERYBODY TRY TO STUDY THE HISTORY OF BHARATHA OVER 3000YEARS AND TEACH THE TRUTHS OF SPRICHUALITY TO EVERY ONE.
To calculate Lord Ram’s birthday to the very day, especially over aeons of time, you should have also taken into consideration astrology precession. If we use the Ptolemic system of astrology for which Western astrology is based and was born in say 600BCE(although the origins cannot exactly be calculated, but at least for this exercise used), with this year in mind and also factoring in precession of 50.3 arc seconds for each year, I have tried to calculate what would happen some 4514 years earlier:
12.30 p.m. of 10th January 5114 BC
5114BC – 600 BC = 4514 years
The earth’s precession is 50.3 arc seconds annually
4514 * 50.3 = 227054.2 arc seconds
3600.1 arc seconds = 1 degree
227054.2 / 3600.1 = 63.07 degrees
The earth moves 1 degree per day, so 63 degrees will = 9 weeks
If you adjust for 9 weeks of precession would it not bring the date to 8th November 5113 BC?
Jai sri ram Jai sri Hanuman.
Sir, I like your dedication towards our culture and glorious past. I request you to provide all these information in Hindi, so that people could be aware of one of the most scientific language in the world. Let’s join our hands to search more evidences on the existence of SHRI RAM. Jai SHRI RAM …