tegramon

In the west, there exists many different forms of yoga practiced. One of them is tantra yoga. The problem is that no master untill our times, recommended the tantra yoga in a s*xual, ero**c way. No master accepted that through the union of the man and women in a pure carnal way, one can see god. And in spite of this, many western school of yoga exist that preach this. My question is, is there any ancient text that implies or tells that through the union of male and female, one can achieve moksha, as many contemporary masters claim?

So we are just "slaves"? We are never free, conditioned or liberated?

I have read Sri Swami Sivananda who used to say we are actually "fallen" beacause we wanted to experience individuality, and neglected our "oneness". But I hard it quite hard to believe we would trade that for "this" life. In any case, what if the body was created by "other" children?

Which theory do you favor? Evolution or some "higher" intelligence made us? I mean this not in a religious way but in a scientifical way.

Greetings Bhaktajan Thank you for your response. I am always open to discussions and this seems an interesting start. Now to try to answer your questions : 1) Only by speculation and by mere glimpses during meditation where I lost all sense of individuality. But those moments were very rare and lasted seconds. 2) Well, it's a mix of two. I can answer mostly by speculation since I do not have a real live guru although I am seeking. Though I must admit that I have great admiration for Swami Sivananda and read his works all the time. 3) I never claimed I was a Guru. Nor I will claim since obviously I am not. I only shared what glimpses I had. I do not know my past lifes, except intellectually by observing me and taking a hint of where I gone wrong. I guess devotion and faith was/is not one of my strong points. I am bound to repeat my dharmic duties without achieving moksha? I am not a master of english, but I seek moksha, the end of all sorrows, freedom. I am seeking it and gradually working towards it. Slowly and without a Guru. Your below message was extremly uplifting, and it seems to me that the person who wrote it might be a Guru. I do not understood one thing though, what is the difference between "Kanea" and Brahman? And what is Kanea? Tegramon

Gita true? Why should one anyone care about this? Sattisfy your intellect? You dont need to believe in Gita to practice Asana and meditation. You dont need Gita for Traka. You dont need Gita for Samadhi. Asuming that your not a Bhakti Yogi. Let me give you this advice. I met a guy who was on a quest to challenge all spiritual believe. The main labrat was usually he (I declined, dont like to take part in spiritual revolutions ). So he changed his Mantra from ... whatever his Ishta Mantra was to "chocolate iceream". He used to repeat it day and night and day and night in Japa. He got the same result as with his Ishta Mantra. If you want the sum of all Yoga, here it is, at least of what I glimpsed by meditation : - The Divine Ray is burried deep within the mind. - In order to reach it, we must tear down old habits and reestablish new ones (here Yama and Nyama are of utmost importance) - In order to tear it down, man must resume to several tricks, since the mind itself is tricky. We know this tricks by the common names of Yoga Sadhana. One of this tricks, is faith expressed in the Gita or any other book. In the end everything is resumed to tear down mental conditioning that was given to from birth. Study Gita and all other scriptures, meditate on slokas, zen koans, sutra's, etc. You will reach the same conclusion. I have no doubt about this whatsoever.

Discarding meat, spiritual sadhana, intellect in understanding holy books, I had them since I was a child. However, I dont necesarly believe in a god who is distant and commands everything. The more I study myself, the more I am amazed at the revelation that I am god. All those blissfull states by meditating near a river, or flowers, or whatever, they are in me, not given by the river and the flowers. How can I not believe in me? And how can you not believe in you?

Basic question ... who created us? I mean both the body ... AND the soul. Through soul I understand the divine ray encased in the shell of the mind.

Has anyone steped back and looked at the phenomenon? Is it not interesting that people await the chance to die for their belief, religion, cult? Why not live for it? The user who said that the number does not matter is right. It does not belong to mathemathics. The mayans only observed the sky's and calculated with astounding precision the time when the sun will be in alignment with the core of the galaxy. I doubt that this will produce something awfull, we've survived a planetary alignment, nothing happend. Sad, but true. The "day" in the Doom Day is probably not a day at all. Is probably a period, like a "day" in the Biblical Genesis. The Apocalypse, carefully studied, reveals nothing more than the birth of christ in astronomical sequence. Nothing more, we were always have been masters of our destiny, more or less. The only problem is, as one user said, what if someone lights the fuse

Well, I am attracted with the image when he hold his flute, however his mantra seems a little "foreign" to me. I would prefer Ram Ram Ram, maybe I should force myself to use the Krishna mantra's and his image. I will give it a try, I have nothing to loose whatsoever!

Well, I need my Bhakti. Although I live very passionatly and my heart is wild, I also poses a strong intellect. This is the reason why I cannot decide on a mantra and asociate it with a god. I have problem choosing and I do not have a Guru, that's why I asked you, probably you are more advanced in Bhakti. I would like to combine somehow the heart and mind aspect into one single deity. I need Bhakti beacause it is hard for me to concentrate my mind on the absolute all in dhyana. So I need a prop as Sri Sivananda said, and this prop should be an idol. It helps me center my turbulent thoughts in one place. I should mention that I follow the Path of Yoga of Synthethis as Sri Sivananda layed it out, but I think it matters little. Yoga is yoga, God is God, in the end All is All.

Hello, I have a question, would it be bad, if my mind is attracted to a certain mantra of Lord Rama however my mind would also be attracted to another image of Lord Krishna ... so would it be bad one would do Japa with the mantra of a Lord and Bhakti (at the same time) with the mantra of another Lord like Krishna? Tegramon.