Soma Juice

Yes it sounds illogical to eat meat in the palace and then leave it when going to the forest. Not that it would make a big diffrence after all the lord kills goes straight to heaven right? I think i read that in srimad-bhagavatam And when living in the forest i think it is okay to be a part of the system of life and death and eating animals. This is not unnececary like the slaugtherhouses of today

“I shall live in a solitary forest like a sage for fourteen years, leaving off meat and living with roots, fruits and honey”. 2-20-29 Does "leaving off meat" not mean he ate meat before he left off to the forest? this must mean he was a meat eater?

I think it is stupid to deny that substances like marijuana and hallucinogenic plants can do anything good spiritually. They are surely powerfull for realizing this world is illusion. Yes plant use is attacthment to material world, you will keep attached as long as you use it to receive connection to god. you will not reach enlightenment, but what is the problem in using them without attachtment?. The addiction to marijuana is purely psychological not physic. So a saddhu with no attachtment to anything and control over his mind has no problem using it and can use it as a tool. So if a saddhu is addicted to marijuana he is not a real saddhu, but it dont mean that some saddhus are not real eventhough they use marijuana. And fact is there IS a connection between (psychedelic) plants and santhana dharma, the soma plant is described in the rig-veda hundres of times for its great spiritual qualities! The great sages of the rig-veda did use the soma "intoxication" (bad word, because soma was healing not toxic) in worship and to communicate with the gods etc. So it is wrong to say that "drugs" cant have any spiritual value it is wrong because the soma plant surely did. Im not promoting anything it is best for most poeple to keep away from marijuana when trying to live in a strict spiritual way, because if you have a weak psyche you will get attached to it.

I was watching this video about the dimensions of reality. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lhfRduhYj0 And i thought, wow, what the scientist has discovered is very close to what ive read in the Srimad-bhagavatam. In the 10th dimension infinite possiblities is kept and what that makes up reality is superstrings vibrating creating diffrent realities. It is similar to that all possibilities is kept dormant in god and through his will is manifestet through his energies/superstrings? What is your take on this theory?

Politics is like pro wrestling, its all about acting tough when on TV but behind the scenes everyone is friends! the same corrupt manipulating demons. I cant imagine how a financial crisis like this possible could have passed by the master analytics in the goverment? But thanks to obama faith in the system is now restored... change is not gonna happen with that kind of system. I think it se the condition of the world at this moment in time how can it ever be better??

is haridasdasdas also an imposter now? haha.. It seems like everyone that do not agree with you is either alien brainwashed or undercover christian.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756 Maybe you should give this video a chance i cannot make a clear desicion on this new world order thing, but i think there is going alot more on behind the curtains.

you just get better and better haha

I say take the discussion up! Educate him! i couldnt stand if my brother was so ignorant. The points he raises is easy to shot down. Show him how developed and compasionate the old vedic civilization was and show him how yoga and mantras are benificial.. i think there is a lot of evidence out there to prove both even scientific. And maybe tell him about the nature of god.. but i dont know your brother or how he would take stuff like that.

What has Da Vinci Code to do with what is going on in the west? sorry im from but the west but do not know? and what is the reason it is illegal in India? (im not going to argue again but just curious)

Have you ever heard of homosexuality? You freind might be...and what kind of asshole are you ? insulting his family that is not proper behavior... Just answer how come no spiritual masters speak of the alien threat, when they are the best educated

Well i say you are delusional and you say im brainwashed by aliens You do the exact same thing to me, you actually also acusing me of beeing a christian missionary. WHY WOULD I BE ON THIS FORUM IF I DID NOT BELIVE IN SANATHANA DHARMA? Offcause i try to make people disbelive what you post? Because i dont belive what you post myself!!! you make it sound like a secret. But im not saying you didnt have all these strange incidents, lets make that clear, but im saying they dont prove the existence of these beeings!! But belive me when i say i do it out of 100% free will. Why is it hard to accept that poeple dont just belive in grey aliens like this? is everyone who question their existence mind controlled or a christian working with the aliens? A knew you wouldnt answer my questions just as earlier in the thread, you just take the easy way out and call me a troll? I am wondering are you not capable of answering since you evade every single question i write? Please stop saying i am kissing the back of christians, how many times must i tell you i am "anti-christian" you cant figure me out so i must be apart of the "agenda" Wake up to reality you cant blame anything on diffrent agendas. There is one question just must answer: Why dont the spiritual masters know about the aliens? they are the wisest men on earth when presentet with facts they will see if it is true or not, but it seems like NO spiritual master speaks of this subject at all eventhough you say aliens have been around messing with us for mellenia, it is even the aliens fault that christianity was established right? But not a single spiritual master through history points this out? how can it be? and not even today with hybrids walking in streets following your statements? And you make it seem like im suppresing sanathana dharma? I think the thread speaks for it self, i dont see any other hindu defending your statements.

Let me propose something about the nature of alien abductions. All human brains contain the hallucenogenic natural occuring tryptamine N,N-dimethyltryptamine. This tryptamine is also found in many animals and plants. When consumed in large doses it will trigger an extreme out of body experience where almost everyone gets in close contacts with entities. Many of the subjects experienced many similarities with what people claiming to have been abducted by aliens had experienced, this includes sexual experiences, examinations, freindly encounters and hostile encounters with these entities. Clinical scientific research has been made to back this up(if you want to read about it look up: DMT: the spirit molecule by Rick Strassman) So under great stress of the mind a DMT/N,N-dimethyltryptamine experience can be triggered and a person might feel like he or she is alien abductet

I will gladly answer your questions what question do you think i have missed? Just say and i will answer. This shows again how you want to blame every thing on everything else. Something works against you and the first thing you think is CHRISTIAN!!! sorry you cant blame the christians this time. And why are you even talking about christians and muslims? im talking about "grey aliens" And actually i encourage converting Christians and Muslims to hindus, i would very much like to see such thing happen. So this would never be my problem why do you think that? I belive in sanathana dharma OK? I have statet this once in this thread allready. But i dont belive in grey aliens allright?? does that make me christian? no!! then why are you saying such nonsense? You are acusing me of diverting the topic? you wouldnt even answer my posts until now, give me a break. And no i dont want to leave you, you have free will and i have free will and im using my free will to discuss this topic because i want, again this is a discussion forum and one must be able to discuss about what one posts allright? It is not a "post your ideas and no critsism allowed forum" It is actually because i find you crazy i wont go away if i agreed with you i wouldnt bother to post, this is how a discusion forum works. Please tell me what logical questions i miss answering, i promise i will answer every one of them if you promise to answer mine. Sorry but did you think that you would not receive criticisms for posting about grey aliens? What do you mean if any spiritual leader would want to take such criticisms? are you a spiritual leader or what are you saying? So you think it is wrong to critisize something you dont belive what do you mean? So you maneged to stumble across the only christian dental college student alien hybrid prototype on the earth?, peew what are the chances for that? Cant you see at all why allmost all other people in the world have trouble beliving this? No this is extremly important, spiritual leaders provide guidance in every aspect of life and their knowledge is far greater than both yours and mine. This is knowledge of sanathana dharma! the spiritual master are in close contact with the spiritual world and therfore they must know about such dangers as if we are mind control by evil aliens, spiritual masters are the most sophisticated in knowledge about the mind so they must know what goes on in the metaphysical layers and the human mind. Spiritual masters posess the strongest sense of intuition you will find! You are claiming your authority bigger than theirs, this is very bad as a hindu! You have more faith in researchers than your own religion! No spiritual master have ever spoken of anything like what you propose so i cannot accept it! And by the way, when you claim something as scientific you must show HARD EVIDENCE, not texts saying this and that, then everything could be science. Who are you to tell me i have no buisness discussing this subject? no i will not leave this thread, i demand answers to my posts! i dont like beeing ignored like that.

What bothers me is you actually might convince other poeple of this dangerous nonsense. This is a discussion forum it is meant for discusion so you must stand up for your beleifs. BUT YOU CANT you havent addresed a single issue of what i bring up, you even wont speak directly to me. Just Because their exist spiritual entities as the scriptures speak of, it does not mean that we are waged psychic and biological war against. Entities dont walk around on earth they are on a much more sophisticatet level of existince!! As with everything else you interpret this out of what your own mind make up. But please answer this question: if these aliens has infiltrated the earth and has been here for a looong time why dont any single spiritual master speak of them? Has Srila Prabhupada spoken of them? No, he spoke of kali-yuga and its degrading effect on the world he didnt blame aliens. Please show me any authority in sanathana dharma that speaks of grey aliens and psychic and biological warfare? Then you will have a chance at convincing me and other people!! If the existince of these aliens are so common and widespread why dont you hear the most advanced spiritual masters speak of them??? We must follow their words not some geocities.com homepage.