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LOL. I had no idea if Gurus are listed on yellow pages!! What makes me wonder is that how some people find fake lights?? Is it because they are not sincere in their search?? mini

You may even have Out of body experience(OOBE) doing this. I had a spontaneous OOBE when I was reciting early this year, especially before going to sleep. Good luck!

Thanks Theist and all, I think I have my answer. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Theist you have put together the pieces of the puzzle for me. many regards, mini

That's a nice one Pankaja. I will keep it stored. Yes, when we broaden our vision, we are able to see and accept the GOD in whatever way He chooses to come. The people who hold opposite views than us , or put obstacles in our way are also acting accordingly as planned.

From the link Panakaja gave in another post(Sri Guru and His Grace), I have read about necessity of Guru. It is really important to find the genuine guru, one who knows the absolute truth . My question to all of you is , how have you recognised your guru? How much sure are all of you and please tell me the reason of your faith in your choice? I hope you will consider it as a serious question and not get offended by it. Does Guru has to be alive in his physical body ? Does a disciple find a Guru or vice versa? ***One who is not only well-versed in the precepts of the revealed scriptures, but who has also come in contact with the revealed truth. One who is conversant with the very object of the scriptures, and who has practical experience, who is established in pure consciousness, is a genuine guru. *** Does an ordinary mind knows how to know whether the Guru is established in pure consciousness?? ***If we accept direction from anywhere and everywhere, we will be misguided.*** ***To our best knowledge and sincerity, however, we should see not to submit to a false agent.*** How have you ensured this? Please give me practical helpful answers, or leave this question unanswered, I don't mean to look for fanatic opinions as they won't be of any use. regards, mini

Hello Theist, Thanks for clarification. ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** ***All of this bickering is really just a roadblock to the road back home, back to Godhead.*** I don't know how to make lenghty posts. /images/graemlins/smile.gif kind regards, mini

Crazy long posts in this thread !! I still can't understand the thing between ISKON and GV. If by chance all the ISKONs and GVs are interchanged for 30 days maybe they will understand each other better. (sorry not meaning to be funny ) kind regards, mini

Hello Vanamali, But we clean our house everyday, and don't try to find God in it by keeping the garbage in the home. Cleanliness is next to Godliness, isn't it? regards, mini

Hello Jayaisvara, You killed all my apetite!! Sometimes back, someone used somewhat similar logic. She asked me why we treat garbage with contempt ?!?!?! Her point was that everything is created by God, so why do we bow before idols and not do the same to a garabage dump??? Both diamond and coal are made up of carbons, yet they are different. mini

"This planetary organism on which we live has three aspects in its interior clearly defined: -First, the merely physical mineral region. -Second, the supra-dimensional zone. -Third, the infra-dimensional zone." "If we want to know the superior and inferior dimensions of the earth's interior we must develop other faculities of perception that are latent in the human race." "The three interior zones of our world are inhabitated. If in the infra-dimensions lost souls live, in the supra-dimensions dwell many Devas, elementals of a superior order, Gods, Masters, etc., who work intensively with great nature's intelligent forces" All the above from Hell, Devil , Karma. I would recommend reading this book, which can be downloaded for free when mysticweb's sister site is up. It is presently under reconstruction. Samael Aun Weor has written all this from his own intensive astral experiences. We can consciously visit these infra-dimensions to discover what is there, if we can consciously astral project. Why we do that is another matter? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

***Do these tunnel-like portals take us to the higher dimensions? (By higher I mean other than the three space dimensions that we perceive)*** The portals to lower dimensions refered to as infernal dimensions or hells are not closed to us, we do visit those when we get nightmares. When we overeat before going to sleep , then it so happens sometimes that we enter those regions. "...These Infra- dimensions are deeply submerged in our nature. Obviously , I repeat, with nightmares we open the seven gateways of the atomic hells in the lower abdomen and that is when we descend into the submerged worlds." From " HELL, Devil, Karma. (Samael Aun Weor)" ***travel upwards is mostly done with the aid of demigods (i.e. when you are invited). in Satya (and possibly Treta) yuga there was a passageway (called the Susumna road I think) to higher realms, but it worked only for advanced yogis*** I have found references of Sushumna in Samael books. The road is hermitically sealed for all of us, but we can open it by the meditation of alchemy(white tantra). It is not as such closed for humanity but it has been esoteric. And rejected by most, since it is dangerous if not practised properly.The white tantra also known as Gandharva tantra has been depicted in dialogue between Shiva and Parvati. "It begins with the question from Parvati about Brahman, Yoga and the Body. Shiva defines the Brahman only. Thereupon Parvati thereupon enquires after some such secret lore as will enable the humanity to get release from the bondage of actions while enjoying the blessings of the earthly life. Shiva says that the Tantric lore is triune in nature as Tamasik, Rajasik, and Sattvik leading respectively to hell, heaven and emancipation. He advises that care should be taken to reject the first and informs that the subject matter of the Tantra is already revealed by Him to Krishna the son of Devaki and to Nandikeshvara." http://www.hubcom.com/magee/gandharv.htm From THE MYSTERY OF GOLDEN BLOSSOM(Samael Aun Weor): "All along the spinal cord a marvelous interplay is processed of various canals which permeate and interpenetrate one another without confusion because they are located in different dimensions. It is not superfluous to mention the glorious Sushumna, the famous Chitra, Centralis and Brahmanadi. Unquestionably from the latter ascends the Blazing Fire."

The book by Samael Aun Weor , "Yes, there is Hell, Yes, there is Devil, Yes, There is Karma" explains nine heavens. They are namely : Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter,Saturn, Uranus and Neptune." , in that order.But all these heavens are in higher dimensions naturally. This has been explained in the chapter "Seven Cosmos". This has been also explained in Dante's Divine Comedy. Samael Aun Weor had a gift of astral projection at will and he had written several books. But it is emphasised that everyone finds out the truth by own, that is by one's own experience. I thought I was out, but ok I stay. : )

***As the Ages progress our vision gets dull {because of impurity}. All that matter can't be doing any good.*** OK , we can't see Rahu because our vision is dulled !! Kalyug !! Ghor Kalyug !! What next ??

***It is definitely a possibility.*** Until I know the truth, any theory is as possible as the other, and as impossible as the other. All I can say is that the whole creation is planned and runs according to an order, and there can be only some fixed law behind it. Otherwise there would be mishaps every other day, planets colliding into each other, Sun not rising as it does, etc, etc. The laws in higher dimensions can be known only by a conscious soul, and I am not that, and it is no use speculating. But yes, this thread is more interesting than Discovery Channel!! /images/graemlins/smile.gif mini

Hello guest, I don't know not what this man has been, but what I see here is most probably an act inspired by divine. Blessed are the people who are shown the mirror of reality, and I can tell from my personal experience , the reality hurts a lot. (Though I was not as much blessed ) I forgot who spoke these lines, maybe it was Kabir,( forgive me if I am wrong, also pardon my poor translation): "Bura Jo Dekhan Main Chala, Bura Na Milia Koi, Jo Man Dekha Aapna , Mujhse Bura Na Koi." "When I went in search of evil, I could not find any. When I searched within myself, no one was worse than me." He has realised something !! regards, mini