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Hi, Out of their predictions two turned accurate.One my job transfer and second about my first job details and training period difficutlies. Rest of predictions yet to come. He even told when I would go to US.They call US 'Kamala Muni Desam'.I dont know why that name is given to US. But I advice you dont hunt after these leaves.It will serve no good purpose.He even told the name of wife(hint),place direction,about her street,about her father and mother,her profession,period of marriage,number of children etc. I have to wait another 2.5 years according to the prediction to see if marriage details come up true. I also went to this Durai Subarathinam's place at Chennai but on seeing the luxury and over exposure, I thought it is fraud and went away. But in place Trichy this nadi astrologer(this nadi Kagabhujandhar is indeed very very rare unlike agasthyar nadi or kawsika nadi) is very simple and not that many rush is there.Anyhow I indeed feel by intution that they use some Shudra Devata mantra as a tantric practice to predict future which is not at all good. In my case only predictions are detailed upto 30 years.I heard these tantric deities can travel only certain magnitude of future time & space and act through the nadi person to give prediction. Also a nadi astrologer's end life is mostly miserable according to the research by famous astrologer Late B.V.Raman. It is an art of tantrism,astrology combinations they have and mind reading.Even the genuine nadi people follow above things to certain extent. Atlast one final suggestion -- no miracle will happen by these men.Only hard work,devotion,spritual sadhana,respect to parents and pure veg habit can lessen our karma and give a peaceful life.Nothing else can prevent the karma's effects except the Almighty's Divine Intervention.

Bhadru, What is this dosage and all? Its after all an idea exchange. If somebody uses words such as fool and all,dont reply for them.Simply ignore. I appreciate your profound knowledge on Sowndarya Lahari and Lalitha Devi.If you are a tamilian,please visit kamakoti.org to see Deivathin Kural of Maha Perivaa.

Hi, It seems either you want to justify the liquour habit.But it verily spoils the logical buddhi and give the 'manas' a free sense of irregular freedom.One should not hence consume liquor and all. For every act,we can justify by quoting puranas and scriptures.Because the maya or illusionary energy's touch is there everywhere for normal souls. But to get out of a mistake,the first step is to accept it as harmful thing.From what you are writing,the mind will look into more and more justification and try to prove it.It is the greatest evil of addiction and desire. First we say "control" then dilute and say "drink but have ur limits" then further "drink,enjoy,cross limits without disturbing anybody ofcourse its your life" then further "great warriors and gods drink and enjoyed.we must follow them" etc. But the fact is that we lose to our senses and give up all virtues.

Dear Sir, I am getting trapped in this nadi thing due to one very bad prediction regarding my father.Can you please give your suggestions as how it is false? Because they rightly predicted even location transfer,my first job details etc very very accurately. I think it is somewhere in between very right and very false.The nadi leaves may contain certain horoscope combination and not a literal life history of an individual.In every 60 year cycle the same leaves will be repeatedtedly used for different people.

Hi, For me in a Nadi called Kagabhujandhar Nadi(in Trichy),80% of what is happening now was foretold. But I say one thing -- dont go to them frequently like what I did.Then they start manipulating,adding remedies dependent on them etc. Just go once and consult a general chapter and career or marriage and stop with that. Its not that everybody's lives are written but certain birth and star combinations which will repeat after a long period is pre-written.Thats all I feel. Share your experience also.

"Suhasini Iyengar and Ram Iyengar (Hindu) are supporting actress Kushboo's opinion that women in Tamil Nadu are indulging in pre-marital sex. All Iyengars listen, please don't play with our emotions" Suhasini is a private personality and whatever she says does not represent Iyengars. Why you are so superficial and completely biased? Can I say "Bin Laden Musalmaan has destroyed world peace.So all muslamaans listen please dont play with our lives" I really wonder how can you be so irrational like this? Everything you link to iyengars. Very cheap indeed.

Though I am a Vaishnava follower,I certainly respect few great souls of our age.Aurobindo and Mother are among them. Aurobindo's great austerities cannot be underestimated. His philosophy is of very high order that can come only from direct experience. The advaitic touch in Aurobindo's works are indeed his speculation we can say but surely he belonged to the galaxy of great sages. Its so simple to comment or come to a hasty conclusion that everything is false.

Everytime your real face and attitude comes up,I see you use words such as my real intention,acutally I never meant that etc.. But I should not blame you the real self and motive is popping up everytime very badly. Please be constructive to all or atleast neutral but never be destructive. If all your arguments prove to pull down the soul from Shiva bhakthi or Vishnu bhakthi,then we verily become the bad affecter of its progress. Thats why sastras say "mownam parama auwshadham".Silence is the prayer,the strenght...Speak less and do more. Dont identify yourself with socio-economic issues and loose the great benefit of glorifying Shiva or Vishnu. Dravidans,Aryans & many more are the tools to play for the politicans.They just mislead the mass for their own vested interests.Hence never believe on those things and spoil yourself and misguide others. Noone has brutally brought down the so called Dravidian culture or so.We cannot conceal the sun by closing our eyes.The real light will come no matter who suppress it.The genuine and truth never fails. Please understand we are all souls and nothing more to this material world.

Hi, Your arguments meet no useful purpose other than discrimination by a foolish race theory.For all you have said,what you now want to say? Even if all of your claims are true,what you expect us now to do? Just fight with each and other and die? No never. Shiva and Vishnu are great Supreme powers which demons and fakes cannot even comprehend and appreciate. Please dont put yourself on the side of great demons Hiranya,Ravana who always had a strange illusionary way to prove that 'They' only are great. Do some useful spritual discussion and practice rather than barking at Vishnu or Shiva's origin.

Dear Srivats, Very happy to see your devotion. I believe you are in teens from your words.Very nice to see such devotion and bhakthi bava. In ISCKON,you can have very nice Krishna portraits.art paints for reasonable rates.You can have a darshan to your nearest ISCKON centre to get more details.Dont worry about the cost.We invest to a treasure which will get multiplied and come back to us.That I learnt in my life's experience. Please ignore the misconception of quarrel.People said that only to Mahabharatha but now it seems they have started to spread this to Srimadbhagavatam.It is baseless.Never mind. This Srimadbhagavatam is very very pious Scriputre that can be read and nourished by everyone and by men of all levels and ages.Starting from Sanath Kumaras down to a Candala everyone is eligible to get best things out of this great Holy Book. Actually reading Bhagavatam increases the piousness,brings peace,prosperity and happiness in the home.This is further assured as at the end of every chapter of Bhagavatam you can find the blessings like 'May the person who reads this gets good things in this and after life'. Here is a free link that contains everything about Srimadbhagavatam with full painted pictures that you can save. http://srimadbhagavatam.org/music/devotional5.html Please all do visit this site and get the blessings of the Almighty Vishnu.

As Prabhu told you insult our Vedic religion to the core. Of the seven rudra incarnations of Shiva, Hanuman is one.This Rudravatar is solely to enjoy the divine nectar of Rama Bhakthi.Ofcourse logicians & scientific atheists like you believe only in the half-well crossed science and nothing else. The very proof that science is imperfect can be justified when Einstein came up with a different theory from Newton. So tomorrow the Einstein theory may be substituted by some other sophistication and it goes on like that. When Aswathama programmed Brahmastra a powerful weapon in a Kusa grass people laughed to the core calling it a myth.But now our scientists programs in a chip that comes basically from silicon a sand material,we appreciate to the core and get ourselves proud. When Rama went in Pushpaka Vimana it is a myth because we cannot appreciate the different implementations of a same theory.Thats where we are frogs in a well. When Karna was born to Kundi in an artificial manner we wont believe but now test tube baby similar to that concept has come. We think that whatever science says we have to blindly accept and should not accept anything more.So I am not saying to be superstitious but at the same time please dont think we are too smart.It is never the case.There are so many in the universe yet to be explored by this science. Meanwhile it really interests the debate on landing of moon as a drama by NAZA.We devoteed dont arise these issues but the truth comes up and must as it be. Your father may not be aware of every sentence in every epic and please dont speculate,argue and hurt devotees. Whole spiritualism is based on unflinching faith and a man who always doubts ends nowhere.

Jaya and Vijaya were very great devotees of Vaikuntha planet.They were in Vaikunda serving the Lord which Vaishnavas call a liberated state.But still, they had to descend to Earth that too as demons.Here comes the infalliable mysticsm of Vishnu's powers.We cannot simply perceive them and for every rule,the ruler makes an exception Similarly the next cycle of Kritha yuga may see an entire new incarnations of the Lord and we cannot deny that possibility as He can take innumerable and unimaginable incarnations. So a theory is valid on the space and time syndrome.A tribal man may have had hunting as normal thing but the same thing defies the ahimsa principle in our age. Even 1000 years before, going for war was the perfect code of conduct for a young men but today everything is intellectual work.Hence we should not confuse by seeing the previous yuga's lifestyle and conduct. Dasaratha had 60,000 wives because their life span was very high and he was able to satisfy all of them. But for Kali yuga, one should have only one wife.In previous yuga's, a widow can marry the brother-in-law but in this yuga a widow or widower must sing the glories of the Lord for rest of life.It is not a hardship on their part but it applies to our age even scientifically. So in gist,we must live in presence and work under the laws of the presence and get the maximum progress for our soul out of it.In this age, one need not go to forest and do tapas but remain in house,sing Bhagavan's glories,do his work and attain the liberation. The same liberation that is got by meditation in kritha yuga,yajnas in thretha yuga,temple worship in dwapara yuga can be got in kali yuga by singing Hari's names.

The next cycle of kritha yuga will start after Kali is over.Again the same Hiranya kasipu and other positions will come but the soul occupying these positions will be new. For example, in each Brahma life span, a normal jiva soul gets the position of Brahma.Similarly Indra's positions will be occupied by so many souls in so many kalpa cycles. Even normal beings like you and me are mere material positions that will repeat itself every Kali yuga.The same matter will combine once again with the same proposition and will produce the same character.But the soul getting that position will differ and every soul has a chance to even get Brahma's position. The attitude and past deeds of a soul gives it a Brahma's position or a dog-eater position.But the material designations are the same in every Kali yuga etc. Thats why in Nadi Astrology, the sages predict the name of a person very accurately.They know it is same position Brahma,Indra in every cycle and their general behaviour wont vary too much. Thats why astrology can trace the path of a material body as likely my character will be affected by the certain material compostion inherent.But at any cause the Divine Intervention and the soul's aspiration can change the fate and convert a Hiranyakasipu to a devotee in a cycle but it is the rarest of rare cases known only to Perumal. In short,the material body is like a carriage of the Ferris Wheel of Chicago and on the same carriage so many souls travel and progress.

Dear Bhadramoorthi, We have had enough discussion regarding this topic. "and you say all the scriptures other than the vaishnava scriptures are false!this is religious fundamentalism! " "now i am aware of the vaishnava mentality. they are just like the christians and muslims....." These words have come out because of utter disgust of you on Vaishnava's part.The problem is that when you directly meet Srirangam Vaishnvas or even my humble self, this much of harshness wont be there.Our culture,way of life,food etc is revolving around one Supreme Lord Vishnu.Nothing else we need to know or willing to know.He is our life air and we are after him like hypnotized people.You may call this a madness but it is this madness we aspire for. When you pay a visit to Srirangam,you can still see in this yuga so many orthodox vaishnvas who lead a life of pure austerities and bhakthi.It is very sad that you compare Vaishnavas with Islamic fanatism which is turning out to be a destructive force of the world. The discussions in any forum must serve the purpose of healthy debates with no hatred to the person arguing.After all we Vaishnavas believe in peace,love and non violence.It is for this basic three principles we are uncomprimising on any worship lower than that of pure goodness. A philosophy or theory must be weighed not only based on some scriputres but also on the strength of followers and their progress.In the name of trance so many pseudo Devi devotees cheat people and collect money.If you visit Kamaghya in Assam,any kind hearted soul will become terrified.Even few decades before human sacrifice existed. All these I am not saying to degrade Devi the material energy of Vishnu.Without her grace,no success on material level can be achieved. We are not against Devi worship or Shiva worship but we argue that Vishu path is the supreme one.And as we expect we receive many counter arguments and we answer. One thing I accept "..Devi Bhagavatam and the rest are written by fake guys..." This statement sounds little bit hard but it is a fact in one way.What the writer tries to convey is that material energy or maya energy takes its many forms to deceive one who is envious of Vishnu or Supreme Reality. "my satguru had said that all deities are one and to realise this, we should first concentrate on one of them.." These words show you follow Advaita but then you argue like Vishnu is chief among demi-gods and Devi is supreme. I request you to stick to a particular philosophy rather than being focussed on simply hating and bashing Vaishnavas. ."they also think that god has a human form as the christians does" So if you are happy with Devi worship please proceed but dont say God's human form is something imaginary and Advaita is the truthu.It offends the Devi herself.How can you be devoted to something which is just for a concentration point and does not really exist?No sir it is not the case.Devi does exist in human form and so the Supreme Lord Vishnu.If you consider this a superstition,then you are doubting the very presence of God as you are forcing him to be formless. Bhadramoorthi -- I have no hatred towards you and I hope the same from you.We are under the tree of Vedic Religion. Hence please concentrate on your Devi worship and keep up your austerities.It will help to elevate you if not to the perfection. But dont just join others in degrading Vaishnavas for so many genuine acharyas who has lived a life of devotion for this great bhakthi movement will get offended. All the very best!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Recently one 'ranga' in the forum says that it's fate that in advaitha all gods are accepted and so there is tolerance among the indians for other religion. I called 'Its their fate' in a different sense which is irrelevant to this topic of discussion. We say like "it is his fate to remain an introvert as he is reserved" when somebody or group we cannot expect to change a little and they are forced to accept the inference of their theory.Hence Advaitin has no other go but to equate anything and everything to religious path.Please read fully in the context before coming to criticize Vaishnavas in every thread message.

Hi, This Naadi is written by Kaga Bhujandhar a tamil Siddhar(mystic yogi).This Nadi is indeed very rare not like Agasthya and all which we can see in all towns of Tamil Nadu. This Naadi predicted my future very very accurately and one by one the same incidents are happening. The Naadi person is Mr. Chelladurai. They are near Tiruvanaikovil(famous Shiva temple) Trichy. Address: Kaaga Bhujandhar Kowsika Naadi Jyodish Sannidhi Street(facing the temple on the right side yellow board will be there.Their place is very small and hence you may skip). Tiruvanaikovil Trichy. Call,get appointment and proceed. Tiruvanaikovil is served by a plenty number of buses both from Junction bustand and main-guard gate area. 0431-5532079

"...So...Vedas also says Visnu is Parama and Agni is avamo(lowest) and all others occupy positions inbetween. Those who cannot understand properly get confused..." Yes Vishnu is Parama means Paramam full,perfection,all pervading and what not? Para brahmam,Parama gatih: refer the same.Why you interpret like a lawyer? Siva and Devi are not higher than Vishnu.If your Devi is really highest, then while killing Mahishaasura she should not have received divine weapons from all devas.When Vishnu starts to kill demons he does on his own without devas help. His Avatars mainly focus on protecting devotees. (except for in Ramayana Indra gave his chariot to Ramachandra because that Avatar was especially to benefit human society by assuming ordinary human form). You sometimes support Advaita and sometimes Devi greatness but never Vishnu greatness. It seems your aim is just to pull down Vishnu but who are we to do that?

Sir, It is true that we should concentrate more on practice than talking esp in spiritual life. The tamasic purana,rajasik purana classification is on the basis of certain verses which they say.For eg, eating meat is allowed in Agni purana.Likewise things ascertain the level of the puranas. As Krishna has assured in Gita, those who worship other gods also worship him in the wrong way.Again peoplw will start from the scratch -- who is Gita to tell this? So in one way you are right.We are not here to convert anyone except for some strange cases. Ultimately our motivation must be pious,virtuous etc.If the motivation is demoniac we are sure to fall down.

Hi, What happened? Please take these things lighlty.After all we have our own world and ups & downs in life. By the by,who deleted your messages? Does your id not exist anymore? If you are quitting this forum, I have few words to request you.This is my humble suggestion as a forum friend.I like your arguments but I say Shaivite -- please have unflinching belief on scriptures,our Acharyas and Avatars of Vishnu.Dont get confused by the atheists group who want to date the events of Rama and Krishna and somehow bring them down to ordinary people. With your sharp intellect, I am sure you will reach the heights of spiritual realization in real life if you believe in scriptures and Acharyas. Thankyou very much. Please reply for this. Friendly, Ranga

Dear All, Does anybody have Padhuka Sahasram the 1000 verses glorifying Lord Ranganadha of Sriranga, by His holiness Vedantha Desika Mahaprabhu? Thanks in advance. Please send the link of the website or the pdf file.

Sir, Thankyou for bringing some valid points.Please come up with an id. These people are not able to account for word by word what I posted earlier and unnecessarily alleging wrong things. We respect Shiva and Kali no hatred is there.But truth is truth though bitter. Saraswathi is the power of intelligence and she is wife of Brahma who is a jiva with 100 brahma years of satya lokha life span.It is futile to argue with people who dont know the scriputural importance properly.

Hi, Leave it.Its this Kali age where these all will be there.What is seemingly good will be a poison while the real virtue will bow down in guilt infront of demons. Thats what now happening to our Vaishnavism. It is now a fashion for all saints to take Advaita.By a hundred men saying a false thing it will never become a truth; so is the case with the greatness of our Vaishnavism. But calm down yourself as verily we incur nothing by getting tense.Now only the harassment against us has started and wait and see as Kali grows,we will suffer as if in the hands of Hiranya Kashipu.History repeats itself.All Vaishnvas should remain silent chant Rama, Rama lest let the demons come and boil as alive in hot oil.Death is inevitable and these people also will face their end one day or other.

I need not tell anything.The very attitude of your reply clearly shows much bleach on the part of wrong allegations on Vaishnavism.Instead of finding some valid points, you are roaming around birth background and other non-sense. The problem with you people is that you cannot bear a confidence and care free path full of nectar of devotion. No problem on your part, the brought up in many families is like this.Simply fight and argue without thinking. But please stop this unwanted arrogancy.Better we bid farewell because it is very tough for me to argue without any quotes and proper facts.Just alleging baselessly does not befit this type of spiritual forum.We are not talking mundane topics to fight with. One final word of caution or advice to you is dont use abusive terms such as homo... to criticize Vaishnavism.It makes one far and far from truth.aasurim yoni maapanna muudaa janmana janmani is Gita Vakhya. Good Bye!!!!!!!!!!!

"Spiritual realm is psuedo This is psuedo Transcendental relationship funda is psuedo " This is psuedo,that is psuedo.Everything is Psuedo.Whatever and whoever you dont like,it is psuedo.Whatever you speculate and misinterpret very offensively as homosexuality is very real.Isnit it?Very good logic and very good speculation. And for all these the title is "Vaishnavite Intolerance".Actually it should have been "Intolerant towards Vaishnavas"

Sir, Please register a name.Otherwise I cannot answer with proper link. Now, our philosophy is very simple Sir. We are enjoying Bhakthi Rasam in Dasya bhava and chant Hari's names.We offer plants and fruits to Him and happily eat the remnants as Maha Prasadam.We follow Veg and avoid Violence in all our endeavours.We believe every word of our Acharyas and Gita.We take part joyfully in Gita Govindam and other bhajans of great devotees like Jayadev Goswami,Meerbai,Batrachal Ramadas etc. We enjoy reading pastimes of Ramachandra and Krishna. We always say Vishnu is the one and only one Supreme. It is only others who come to us first to disprove this or in a manner like "How or why you say Vishnu is supreme".Even the topic Vishnu the ultimate is started by a Shaktha devotee.When challenged,we support(it is very natural to do so)our arguments by illustrations and logical ways also(tamasik and tantric comparisons of devi worship etc). When arguement is started there is no other go than to compare and contrast.But it can never mean I am greater than Shiva.I am nothing in front of him.Because he is very secret associate of Vishnu and more or less a destructive form of Vishnu. Hence when want to argue refer Linga purana ask for explanation and catch a verse in Gita and challenge us. But dont divert the topic by going into socio-religious area and family traditions. Advaita has to accommodate all religions and say everyone is God because it is their philosophy(fate you can call). But we always say everybody is different.We never say pseudo equalism the same thing our politicians use in material world we dont want to artifically use in spiritual realm. Many thanks........