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on the topic, you say Swaminarayan didnt have to say Krishna was supreme so many times. Let me raise an issue which i want directly addressed: He went around india for 7 years and settled in Loj with Ramanand Swami's sampraday because his questions of the nature of Jiva, ishwar maya bhram and parabhram were answered. They believed in Krishna. If he started by saying He was supreme, who would actually have listened? Just like Krishna followers, for example you arent prepared to accept another Ishtadev, and fair enough, so were people not going to be prepared to listen to Him then. It does make sense. Whats the point of talking if nobody is going to listen. However by the end of His time on Earth, He did convince people He was supreme, even though they initially didnt believe it. For eg. Muktanand Swami, Niskulanand Swami, Atmanand Swami etc etc etc. How can you call this a vague excuse. Bare in mind that we are also not making up that He was supreme. He HAS said it. And also, about chanting Krishna's name, why oh why did he give the swaminarayan mantra. For fun? I agree with the guy who is not posting anymore. Only the easy questions are answered with the same answers, others are ignored.

in a reply to the long message where the bhakta talked about having studies all the scriptures in a lot of detail i write... you quoted amdavad 6, but what about amdavad 7 where Shriji Maharaj writes "....Then when i looked within again, I realised that I am the creator, sustainer and destroyer of all the bhramands. In those countless bhramands, it is by My diving light that countless Shivs, countless Bhramas, countless Kailases, countless Vaikunths, GOLOK, Bhramapur, as well as countless millions of other realms are radiant" ~ amd-7 That answers quite a few questions. Regarding Pramukh Swami and BAPS followers - i dont know who you spoke to who say that Pramukh Swami is God, but they arent BAPS followers, all followers of BAPS do NOT believe him to be God. We offer "sarkhi-Seva" as per Shriji Maharaj's words in Vadtal-10, thats all. Through him, we can attain liberation, but we do not believe him to be God. We also dont believe him to have attained the ekantik state, we believe him to have descended from Akshardham (already ekantik), and that through him God is 100% pragat on this Earth, and will remain so. This is the basis of BAPS. Therefore you can see why BAPS believe he is a unique Sadhu, and there is nobody like him on Earth.