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Well put Ravi! Nice analogy! U da man!!!! Shanti!!!!!! Vayu /images/graemlins/cool.gif

From what I understand every other religion borrowed the "rosary" idea from the Hindu mala. But then, I don't understand 2 much. /images/graemlins/grin.gif Shanti!!! vayu

Dearest Unregistered Guest, I don't know if you misread the posts here or what? I didn't start this thread in the first place. In the second place I think you misunderstood the post I made. Let me break it down to you in American terms: "I am quite happy with my current belief system. Good luck on your conversions though! I can understand your enthusiasm!" That was complete sarcasm! Here in America we call it being a "smart ass". I will not bash any other belief system but may not agree with it. I leave the hatin' to the haters. I do not believe in conversions as I don't need a salesman to talk me into what I believe or sell me a religion. I have my own mind. I don't believe in missionaries or conversions. I had an idea some people might not be able to detect the sarcasm in my post, that is why I created the second post. I'm not sure if you thought I started this thread or if you misunderstood my particular post. Perhaps I ought not have replied to the original post but I found it hard to resist. It was a joke, it's like I was telling this guy " You aren't going to get many followers with a post like that but you go ahead." Something like that, sorta reverse phsychology. Anyway, this post is getting entirely too long. I hope that clears things up. I am hindu, not muslim. I am an Irish-American as well and perhaps some people are not familiar with American humor. I just wanted to blow that guy up (figuritvely) but do it in a nice manner, rather than using anger and harsh words. I hope that clears things up. Shanti!!!! Jai Swaminarayan!!!!!!!!!!!! vayu /images/graemlins/wink.gif

When I stated "good luck on your conversions" I was being cheeky. Please don't mis-understand. Was just trying to make a point with humor! SHANTI!!!!!!!! Vayu /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Thank you for your reply and the props Ravi!!!!!! When I was in third grade I had a very good friend named Ravi so your name brings back good memories for me!!! Anyway, thanks again for your response! SHANTI!!!!!!!!!!!Vayu /images/graemlins/wink.gif Jai Swaminarayan Satyam Sivam Sundaram

I find it quite distressing that some people here use angry words and racsist remarks towards others in this forum. They are just petty tyrants who claim to be hindus and think that if others do not agree with their linear views that that other person is somehow wrong or ignorant and they try to belittle them and reprimand them, like they are so great and all knowing. I was excited when I found this forum thinking that I could interact and have intelligent conversations with brothers and sisters. Instead I find haters dominating alot of these threads telling others they cannot participate in certain threads if they are not Vaishnavs and the likes of this. I read posts using racsist remarks and accusing people of being "suspects" and other pathetic comments and these people behave like bratty, spoiled little children. You say you love Krishna yet you use the mouth and mind that you claim you use to talk to God and use foul language and hurtful words towards your brothers and sisters. You are the ones who do not understand what Hinduism is about. You accuse your brothers and sisters of being "suspects" and such, yet you are no better than the people you are accusing them of being. I still embrace the haters and have love for them like family because they just do not understand and without right understanding how can you treat others correctly? If you are really hindu you could argue you points with compassion and wisdom and patience. Not anger, ignorance and hurtful words. You all have a right to speak your mind and I do not deny you that right, I am not any better or more important than you and I don't want to come off like I'm on a soap box. It just astounds me that people who claim to be part of such a great belief system could treat others so impatiently and harsh, rather than embracing them and trying to understand one another. That is pretty much all I have to say on the matter so haters start haterizing and rip me to shreds now. No matter what you say to me I still love you like brothers. You cannot stop me and your harsh words to me are like blessings. Shanti!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With much love, Vayu The Yankee Hindu /images/graemlins/smile.gif Jai Swaminarayan

Thanks for the reply Sephiroth. I am not trying to case waves here. You seem to be quite the excitable type. I know I started this "debate" and I was wrong. Reincarnate, rebirth, these are just words. I guess it depends on where you are from because different people/cultures have different meanings for these words. I am familiar with the Four Noble truths and the Eightfold Path and the teachings of the buddha. That is one reason I kind of distanced myself from "Buddhism" because everyone argued about who was better Mahayana or Viyana or Vajrayana or Zen or Pure Land and so on and they would pick, pick, pick about details and terms and it all has it's place but sometimes it became quite ridiculous! It seems crazy because it seemed far away from what the buddha taught. You seem to be anti-buddhist, please correct me if I am wrong. We can discuss things in a peaceful intelligent manner. I don't mind a friendly debate here and there or to learn from others, that is what we are here for. Shanti!!!! vayu /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Namaste and Jai Swaminarayan! Welcome to the forum SarahK! I am an American Hindu and would be more than happy to help you and provide links and such for you to help you in your journey! As you have already found out there are some real jokers here with hidden agendas and mis-information that derive some sort of pleasure by mis-directing people! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif There are also some very thoughtful, intelligent and helpful people as well. I am only new here too but it didn't take long to figure out (at least for me) who was (are) trying to mis-guide people. It is quite sad, really /images/graemlins/confused.gif I pray for them that they can attain some sort of balance and clear vision in their lives to try and help others and not decieve them and cause them suffering and confusion. I pray they find happiness in their own lives so that they can live a rich life! Feel free to PM me anytime and I will do my best for you. I know what it is like starting out without really knowing where to go.Shanti!!!!!!!!!!! Your friend, vayu

Because certain karmas can be resolved only in the physical world, we must enter another physical body to continue our evolution. After soaring into the casual plane, we enter a new womb. Subsequently the old manomaya kosha is slowly sloughed off and a new one created. The actions set in motion in previous lives form the tendencies and conditions of the next. Reincarnation ceases when karma is resolved, God is realized and moksha attained. The Vedas say, "After death, the soul goes to the next world bearing in mind the subtle impressions of it's deeds, and after reaping their harvest returns again into this world of action. Thus, he who has desires continues suject to rebirth." /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Reincarnation, punarjanma, is the natural process of birth, death and rebirth. At death we drop off the physical body and continue evolving in the inner worlds in our subtle bodies, until we again enter into birth. AUM Jai Swaminarayan /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Forgot to log in before posting. My bad! /images/graemlins/blush.gif Jai Swaminarayan

Thank you for the invitation my friend but I am quite happy with my current belief system! Good luck on your conversions though! I can understand your enthusiasm! Shanti!!!! Jai Swaminarayan /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I think what you are calling reincarnation would be better defined as rebirth. My understanding is you are reborn according to your karma. What level of being you will be reborn as depends on your karmic debt. You are not "reincarnated" in another body as the "same" person. That is my understanding. But what do I know? I just wanted to put my two cents in to see if it made sense to anyone. Peace! Jai Swaminarayan

Namaste and Jai Swaminarayan!!! Hello everyone. I am a new member interested in talking to and learning from other Hindus. I have been interested in Hinduism and Buddhism for about thirteen years. I have recently found a home with the Swaminarayan Sampradaya. I look forward to sharing and learning from everyone. I am living in the United States. Thanks to you all in advance! Peace! Vayu

Jai Sri Swaminarayan!!!!!!