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It is a very good thing for me that I didn't post my dream of Sri Chaitanya in Jharikhanda. All glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga! Time for me to leave this place brother. All my love to you and the assembled devotees. We are living in a very dark time. How is it Dear Krsna, that I have found myself so far away from home in this strange planet. Kindly let me accept the Mercy delivered by your Son Jesus. Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya.

What is your Vaisnava lineage? But on your side, whose Math and whose Sampradaya holds your position? Which guru? Which acharya? On our side, we are taking from Srila Prabhupada's writings and lectures. That is in the open. But your side (you and those supporting your position) .. each one of you refuses to disclose your sampradaya, your guru, and your math. It is all secret. Why is that? I know why? Because you are ashamed. Because I will go to your guru and your math and they will caste you out. So tell me, where in India you have your ashram and your guru. We want to hear their position. Let them speak.

Dear Cheers, So let us all look at your response: I said -- And you replied: I said Srila Prabhupada had nothing to say to "those harboring hate". You replied "That is baloney". Case closed.

O Immaculata, Queen of Heaven and earth, refuge of sinners and our most loving Mother, God has willed to entrust the entire order of mercy to you. I, (name), a repentant sinner, cast myself at your feet, humbly imploring you to take me with all that I am and have, wholly to yourself as your possession and property. Please make of me, of all my powers of soul and body, of my whole life, death and eternity, whatever most pleases you. If it pleases you, use all that I am and have without reserve, wholly to accomplish what was said of you: "She will crush your head," and "You alone have destroyed all heresies in the whole world. " Let me be a fit instrument in your immaculate and merciful hands for introducing and increasing your glory to the maximum in all the many strayed and indifferent souls, and thus help extend as far as possible the blessed kingdom of the most Sacred Heart of Jesus. For wherever you enter you obtain the grace of conversion and growth in holiness, since it is through your hands that all graces come to us from the most Sacred Heart of Jesus. V. Allow me to praise you, O sacred Virgin R. Give me strength against your enemies

Eternal and incarnate Wisdom, most lovable and adorable Jesus, true God and true man, only Son of the eternal Father and of Mary always Virgin, I adore you profoundly, dwelling in the splendour of your Father from all eternity and in the virginal womb of Mary, your most worthy Mother, at the time of your incarnation. I thank you for having emptied yourself in assuming the condition of a slave to set me free from the cruel slavery of the evil one. I praise and glorify you for having willingly chosen to obey Mary, your holy Mother, in all things, so that through her I may be a faithful slave of love. But I must confess that I have not kept the vows and promises which I made to you so solemnly at my baptism. I have not fulfilled my obligations, and I do not deserve to be called your child or even your loving slave. Since I cannot lay claim to anything except what merits your rejection and displeasure, I dare no longer approach the holiness of your majesty on my own. That is why I turn to the intercession and the mercy of your holy Mother, whom you yourself have given me to mediate with you. Through her I hope to obtain from you contrition and pardon for my sins, and that Wisdom whom I desire to dwell in me always. I turn to you, then, Mary immaculate, living tabernacle of God, in whom eternal Wisdom willed to receive the adoration of both men and angels. I greet you as Queen of heaven and earth, for all that is under God has been made subject to your sovereignty. I call upon you, the unfailing refuge of sinners, confident in your mercy that has never forsaken anyone. Grant my desire for divine Wisdom and, in support of my petition, accept the promises and the offering of myself which I now make, conscious of my unworthiness. I, an unfaithful sinner, renew and ratify today through you my baptismal promises. I renounce for ever Satan, his empty promises, and his evil designs, and I give myself completely to Jesus Christ, the incarnate Wisdom, to carry my cross after him for the rest of my life, and to be more faithful to him than I have been till now. This day, with the whole court of heaven as witness, I choose you, Mary, as my Mother and Queen. I surrender and consecrate myself to you, body and soul, with all that I possess, both spiritual and material, even including the spiritual value of all my actions, past, present, and to come. I give you the full right to dispose of me and all that belongs to me, without any reservations, in whatever way you please, for the greater glory of God in time and throughout eternity. Accept, gracious Virgin, this little offering of my slavery to honour and imitate the obedience which eternal Wisdom willingly chose to have towards you, his Mother. I wish to acknowledge the authority which both of you have over this little worm and pitiful sinner. By it I wish also to thank God for the privileges bestowed on you by the Blessed Trinity. I solemnly declare that for the future I will try to honour and obey you in all things as your true slave of love. O admirable Mother, present me to your dear Son as his slave now and for always, so that he who redeemed me through you, will now receive me through you. Mother of mercy, grant me the favour of obtaining the true Wisdom of God, and so make me one of those whom you love, teach and guide, whom you nourish and protect as your children and slaves. Virgin most faithful, make me in everything so committed a disciple, imitator, and slave of Jesus, your Son, incarnate Wisdom, that I may become, through your intercession and example, fully mature with the fullness which Jesus possessed on earth, and with the fullness of his glory in heaven. Amen.

There is a reason it is called "New Testament". The Old Testament needs much scholarship to understand and much of it is allegory. But read the Psalms and ask yourself are these inspirational. The Psalms teach to sing and praise the Glory of Gods name over and over. Is that not agreeable.

Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya! I bow down again and again to the feet of Lord Jesus Christ, whose sandals are like a boat to cross the ocean of samsara. I left this thread and forum with the full intent of never coming back. I have returned here at the direct request of Srila Prabhupada who appeared to me in a dream. He made it very very clear that his followers (and movement) must be non sectarian. His body was very clean and radiant and I sat with him in a temple for a while. But for those the hate on this forum and those who are harboring hate, Srila Prabhupada had this to say: ____________________ ______________________ nothing at all

Hmmm .. on another thread you posted: - Source: http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/445271-what-krishna-consciousness-3.html This implies you are not an initiated Vaisnava. Are you?

Krsnadaasa Kaviraja lists the following twenty-six good qualities of a Vaisnava: (1) He is very kind to everyone. (2) He does not make anyone his enemy. (3) He is truthful. (4) He is equal to everyone. (5) No one can find any fault in him. (6) He is magnanimous. (7) He is mild. (8) He is always clean. (9) He is without possessions. (10) He works for everyone's benefit. (11) He is very peaceful. (12) He is always surrendered to Krsna. (13) He has no material desires. (14) He is very meek. (15) He is steady. (16) He controls his senses. (17) He does not eat more than required. (18) He is not influenced by the Lord's illusory energy. (19) He offers respect to everyone. (20) He does not desire any respect for himself. (21) He is very grave. (22) He is merciful. (23) He is friendly. (24) He is poetic. (25) He is expert. (26) He is silent." [srimad-Bhagavatam 5.18.12 Purport] Hare Krsna! Jesu Ki Jaya!

Krsnadaasa Kaviraja lists the following twenty-six good qualities of a Vaisnava: (1) He is very kind to everyone. (2) He does not make anyone his enemy. (3) He is truthful. (4) He is equal to everyone. (5) No one can find any fault in him. (6) He is magnanimous. (7) He is mild. (8) He is always clean. (9) He is without possessions. (10) He works for everyone's benefit. (11) He is very peaceful. (12) He is always surrendered to Krsna. (13) He has no material desires. (14) He is very meek. (15) He is steady. (16) He controls his senses. (17) He does not eat more than required. (18) He is not influenced by the Lord's illusory energy. (19) He offers respect to everyone. (20) He does not desire any respect for himself. (21) He is very grave. (22) He is merciful. (23) He is friendly. (24) He is poetic. (25) He is expert. (26) He is silent." [srimad-Bhagavatam 5.18.12 Purport] Hare Krsna! Jesu Ki Jaya!

I also agree. Also .. being "guru" doesn't mean being "paramguru". Being "self-realized" does not necessarily mean being "eternally self-realized". If you are self realized 24/7 means that you are eternally with Krsna. If that is the case, then you are not likely here on planet earth. You experience your true identity (self) when the Lord gives His darshan. But it doesn't mean because the Blessed Lord gave darshan that you are all knowledgable. For non self realized persons, you can speak only on the authority of the realized acharyas, the saints. Anything else is speculation. Speculation too is alright, when presented as speculation, or done as honest inquiry into the Truth. Self realized souls can speak on the authority of the Lord Himself. Even then, they cannot speak authoratively beyond the revelation (realization). In fact, they may is some cases not speak authoratively at all as the darshan of the Lord may be "private revelation" meant only for the devotee but not for the whole of humanity. Commentary therefore, on scripture, from a realized person, is like "sampradaya" or personality. The sampradaya is formed when the followers of the sampradaya are attracted to the personality of the guru. That is, the flavor of guru's realizations are attractive to the personal chemistry of the devotee. Srila Prabhupada considered his sampradaya flavor to be the best, .. the "rose among flowers". It doesn't mean the other flowers are not still beautifully adorned and sweetly scented. I am also reminded that Sri Chaitanya would not comment on scripture in one case. He said "it was self explanatory" ..

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya! Thank you Bhaktajan All very nice references! Reminds me of this quote: Hare Krsna!

I thought you might enjoy that .. you know ..sometimes the little ones need to remind us of big important things! Sending you love and blissful wishes.

Thank you for these references to these sites. There are "hundreds" of positive references about Jesus on this site and He is clearly accepted as "Vaisnava", though not in a cultural and religion sense. The content of these sites clearly indicates that Raghu is not in their lineage or is not following their philosophy and teachings. The quotes below are from ramanuja.org and dvaita.org : -- Mani Varadarajan