mjan

Thank you

A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada In 1922, when Prabhupada first met his spiritual master, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura... Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura met his spiritual master... and so on... Do you know of any websites, where this lineage is written?

@Kulapavana: This could be a nice topic to discuss, im interested to know more. What is the real question here? darwins theory of evolution VS. human devolution, vedic alternative to darwins theory- yes, but this is not what this topic is about;) -------------- do you have any particular african religions in mind?

Two+one questions: 1.) Can you describe, what you mean by paramatma and bhagavan realizations (experiences)?(how mayavadis describe paramatma and bhagavan) 2.) Is this the highest goal of mayavada- liberation, Brahman realization? yes/noIf it's not, what it is? (name) And third question is for Vaishnavas: 3.) What is the highest goal for Vaishnava? What's the name for it?

Isnt Vaishnavism talking about devolution?

What is bhakti marg? How could you decribe it? ------------------------------- And second question: There are three stages of Absolute Truth: Brahman, Paramatma, Bhagavan. My question is- is this jnana marg=first stage (Brahman realization)?

May i ask ---, what do (how) advaitists talk with people? if there is no I (false ego) from my side, only the source, and if there is no I, you (false ego) from your side, only the source, then what? silence?

@theist: ok

@theist: last time you said, you are not advaitist, but you talk now about swan, symbol of advaita... Is there a deeper meaning in this ? i'm not argueing about the point you tryed to say, just interested in symbology- is there a deeper symbolic meaning in it

What do you mean by material happiness and what by spiritual happiness

Looks like i'm going in cycles and i know now that too much of speculations via internet is not ok. I don't know what you think of all this, i assume only bad things... and i can only guess what you think. So i go in only more and more speculations. I will take the best from it, you can too. MODERATOR PLEASE DELETE THIS TOPIC.

Another thing that i would like to ask is: It could be said in many other ways: - May God bless us with faith, strenght, love. - All we need is faith, strenght, love. - May faith, strenght, love be with you! - God please give us faith, strenght, love. - I praise faith, strenght, love! - chanting: faith, strenght, love... What do you think about that? What is more advanced approach? Regards

I thank you because you helped me to see again the importance of good relations of people around, and i want to improve that relations. I mean, i would like to be in positive atmosphere, sure, and i would also like that people around me are ok too. ------------------------------- I had a problem (well, i guess i still do..) because of the "energy" that i would bring around when talking with people "serious" things, things that metter to me, but we all ask that, some less some more. To some people this is important, to some people other things are more important,..so let's say that we are multilevel beings, with many interests. So when talking about more serious stuff- i cannot really say anything, it is a mysteri to me, but is it to everyone? We can talk about every day stuff, i need to learn how to do that in more positive ways;) , with humor, but what about after that? If you realy want to know what this thing we call "life, reality.." is. There were questions in me, still are, what to do with that? I mean- mind is asking, and thus it can only destroy. When all is destroyed, the situation is not ok, or, from my side it is accepted as a mysteri. Destroy all concepts, and destroy others people too, when talking to intelectuals. But this is what matters to me- intelectual, philiosophical attitude. Do you think this is not the best approach? But what to do with mind (questions) then? Ignore, i guess not. Use them in "some particular way"? Or is it that no one really knows what life, death, reality is, and everyone is correct in a way. There is no -one- correct way. But you do reap what you sow, action-reaction. But then again- certain things happen in life (like birth, death, old age, desease, questions about universe, what is this? etc) and i would like to know why it is so, what is it all about. That's why i am attracted to Krisna consciousness- because i hope that i can find all answers here. I see books full of detailed explnations, and i hope this is it. But to find an explanation for everything, is it possible? It looks like mysteri, but is it mysteri for everyone? It would take years to read all books about Krishna consciousness, and there are other "wisdoms" too. What to do. I try to learn as much as i can.

Why did Prabhupada, and his students distribute so many books then? What is the best people can get from them?

..it does look like cycles, ... there are mistakes, falls but through mistakes we learn, and if we fall we can only go up then, i guess. Faith, strenght, love, ... please, be it. gHari, krsna, Beggar, cbrahma, seamusjcarroll, theist, indulekhadasi, suchandra, Murali_Mohan_das, tackleberry, bhaktajan, davidbrucehughes, skp, stonehearted, shiva, yogesh, Shakti-Fan, raghu, thanks from all my heart. Regards, mjan