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I found the text myself.. The song is uploaded in youtube and one must listen to this and you will get addicted regardless of whether you know the language or not. I don't know the language, but still I am addicted to the song. Can post the meaning of the song if someone is interested to read it. Shyam

Can someone write the text version of Shree Hari Stotram please. The song starts as Jagadjaala kaalam gajadganda maalam sharat chandra galam maha daithya maalam. Thank you very much Shyam

By the way GITA has been interpreted by many sages over the course of different centuries. I have read the interpretations by Sankaracharya and Swami Ramakrishna Paramahamsa also other than the book B-GITA as it is by Swami Prabhupadha. I have read the essence of GITA written by Bharathi in his poetry, I have different kinds of interpretations written by different scholars in my mother tounge. Certainly Swami Prabhupadha by himself would have read those different interpretations. To understand and gain a deep insight into something one has to really read many things and not just confine to one author, and this is what I mentioned. Any well learned scholars would certainly agree with me. I would like to stop here and dont want to argue with any one anymore as i dont have to prove myself for useless ignorant people's comments. Shyam

I thought I should not reply to guruvani's comment but it does not make any sense if I dont reply. I have not made any personal comment on any individual mentioning any name. Can you point any name. I am not a person like guruvani to make such baseless comments on enlightened souls like Swami Prabhupadha. What nonsense this guruvani is talking. Is he really having any sense of understanding and analysing others words. Yes i still stress from my experience, its hard to find a spiritual master in this world because many people really exploit others in the name of religion and spirituality and some of them have even got into legal trouble for that whose names I dont wish to mention. They are quite well known in Indian community. Here in US, next to Swami Prabhupadha is really there any enlightened souls to his extent. So thats why I have mentioned, reading Gita is more than sufficient as it gives explanation for everything. You guys i dont know if you read GITA, but certainly its clear from the way you talk and interpret, its obvious none of you are really even fit to even comment about me. It does not make any sense to even argue with you guys trying to prove any point. Its waste of time and energy as its clear that you have no rational thinking from all your words. Mr.gurvani think whatever you want and I dont care. This is what you level of thinking is and that shows your mind. Please write whatever you want and whatever you wish. Bye bye Shyam

The following link gives you information about Sharadha Devi http://srinaath.freeyellow.com/maa.html Shyam

I dont know how many of you are aware of Shri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Sharadha Devi. Sharadha Devi was the wife of Paramahamsa and she was equally a teacher who learned spirituality and religion from her husband and performed the role of Guru and universal mother to all his desciples. One of his desciples who is well known is Swami Vivekanandha. Regards Shyam

Encyclopedia Britanica is not something all in all. There is good number of evidence that there were many women scholars in India. Gargi, was a wise and learned daughter of Rishi (sage) Vachaknu, who was also known as Brahmavadini as she possessed the knowledge of Brahma-vidya. It's known that She participated in a debate with Yajnavalkya in the Yajnasala (place for sacrifices) of King Janaka." (father of Janaki (sita Devi) “Series of dialogues in the Brhadaranyaka Upanishad between Gargi and Yajnavalkya explains this. Thus it is evident that in ancient India, women used to obtain knowledge of many sciences and disciplines. NOn only that, the rishis's wife's (rishi pathni) were also teachers to the respecitive desciples of her husband. But as the society was patriarchial they too bear the same gothram of their husbands and hence their husband's lineages were known. But it is normally understood that rishi's pathnis from the fact that they also used to participate in public functions and take part in intellectual debates. There used to be no ban of any sort in the field of knowledge, this is established very clearly from the account of Gargi's life. This is also evident from the fact that In south India too, there were many women poetess during ancient India. ONe of the famous poetess of the second century was Avaiyar, who was devotee of Karthikeya (warrior form of Shree Krishna worshiped in tamilnadu) and history says that she not only participated in intellectual debates, but also acted as a major peace keeping force among the emperors. In present day India also there are good number of women in spiritual paths who has good number of followers. Regards Shyam

HI., Nice to know that you have read my posts in the past. You are right. I dont have to care about someone's immatured comments. But Its not out of hurt or ego or anything i felt like not posting anymore, but honestly I am tired of dealing with people in this country ever since I came here. This not only includes the americans, but also some of the Indians who have settled here for more than 20 to 30 years especially the younger generations. I dont know how their minds change or this is their level of thinking. Its really sick to deal with it, when they suspect you for nothing. Right from begining, when I came here alone and trying to talk to people just to have some friends, people did not extend any friendship, rather they talk nonsense, or try to take advantage which is really shocking. I was under impression that this forum is written by people with some spiritual elevation, but later in course of time, i realised that most of them (not all) read some books and talk the same things whether they actually follow such principles in their lives or not. When they follow spirituality or atleast trying to understand, certainly they will not talk nonsense, but rather they would try to analyse. First one must keep their mind pure without any corrupted thoughts which i dont find with some people here. I truely feel I am a wrong person in this country itself. Well I am a research scientist and I have come to conclusion that Krishna wants me to concentrate only on that and that I am doing now. This is fine for me and spirituality and aquiring knowledge and understanding of GOD comes from within more than just reading and discussing texts and books of different authors. It comes only by real practice of those words which is very difficult. I am performing the ascribed duty given to me by Krishna and my duty is to conduct research in science and so let me stop with that. Thanks for your concern. I still read this forum although I may not wish to reply and get into any trouble. Regards Shyam

This previous post in the name of guest was mine and I did not want to register as I am removing my id and leaving this group. but just writing this because i dont want you guy's dirty mind to think that this guest and the previous guest who posted his strange situation are the same. Regards Shyam

By the way, the picture of arjuna grabbing krishna is wonderfully and naturally depicted the way it should be. When you want to stop someone your mind does not think of anything about where and how you grab the person. Arjuna's mind is clearly depicted in the first picture that he is begging Krishna to stop by running behind Krishna and grabbing his foot. Whats wrong with the idea of the picture. Its in our analysis and understanding. Regarding the femininity of Krishna's face, none can ever predict in a figure how beautiful Krishna could have been from all the descriptions on Krishna. While its true that most artistes portray the beauty in efiminated way, there are many picutres of krisna in temples of India in which HE is really masculine. Probably you would not have seen and I dont have them to post here. regards Shyam

I am just curious to know if this forum is mostly written or posted mainly by american brought ups who has not lived through the Indian culture and traditions, who have recently converted to vaishnavism or come into Krishna conscious thoughts. I am not offending anyone but would seriously like to know, because from the way people misinterpret other's words, commenting on someone without even knowing anything, from the way a person has questioned about how arjuna is grabbing the legs of Krishna, femininity in Krishna's face, I guess I am a wrong person to write anything here being brought up in INdia, and lived through the Indian culture and traditions. I have been observing in US ever since I came here as a student that most people's mind think first about sexual approach and hence their interpretations too, which I noticed in this forum too from guruvani's comment and your comment on my id that I am fooling all you guys when you all dont even know me. We Indians are brought up in different cultural and traditional ways and we are brought up along with the thoughts of KRishna/GOD ever since we know ourselves, we were brought up with thoughts of friendship and brotherhood towards others. Just like that we dont misinterpret anything and we never bother to see things from sexual angle like you guys, which I also faced in this forum with some nonsense misinterpretation. Why they are not able to discriminate a normal friendliness from sexual attraction and why such corruption in thoughts. Its very sad to know that people's mind are so much corrupted here on sex whether you all agree with me or not. I really thought this forum is something useful in spiritual discussion but ultimately it proves to be nothing since i guess its being written by people (it not all atleast some of you) who does not know much actually about Krishna, but read few books or texts and simply talking like a parrot whatever the book says without analysing properly what the author tries to bring out in essence and without understanding or living through what GITA says. Anyway I dont blame you guys, since you dont even know India, her culture and traditioins, friendliness among people and brotherhood nature which can be understood only if you live there. I am sorry to write like this, but I have to stand atleast now to express my views after facing nonsense comments from people. If this is run and written by american broughts ups probably yes I am a wrong person to be here. Regards Shyam

Hi..Well..I keep chanting HIS name all through the day consciously while doing any work even while writing this to you and also in sleep, which my people told me that once they observed that I was telling krishna krishna while sleeping. I dont know if this is the reason, I was protected several times from many big dangerous situations. By the way chanting HIS name also implies that one has to live through the life with purity of mind and only then HE stays with us. Its a wrong conception that what ever sin we do, HE will forgive us if we chant HIS name. GITA does not say like that. I have written about this and explained in detail in my other postings. If you are interested you can read. Regards Shyam

Mr. Govindaramji I stressed to say that I am a pure devotee of Shree Krishna to imply that I dont disgrace anyone since that person who accused me has also mentioned that I am disgracing hara-krishna people. I dont disgrace anyone implies that I respect everyone irrespective of whether they beleive in Krishna HIMSELF or not and this is what my Lord says. For your question on finding a spiritual master, read GITA concentrating your heart and soul into it and live as how it is mentioned. When I can live such a life, being in this materialistic world anyone can live. When i say, I am living as Krishna says in GITA, I am not a sanyasi or a person who has given up materialistic life, but I dont hurt anyone with my words and action, I do my best by extending anything sincerely, as a good friend to my friends or even to any stranger which certainly one will realise it in course of time when they move with me and as a son to my parents and as a good employee to my boss. I am also keeping myself pure physically and mentally, to be a good husband If I get married. This is what I have understood by reading GITA and hence practicing it as far as possible in day today life. I fell HIS presence with me all the time after I started living HIS words. Certainly Krishna HIMSELF will come into you dream when you put your heart and soul in your prayers and HE is the only spiritual master I have ever known. But you have to work hard to see HIM through your mind. Regards Shyam

HI...Thanks for giving your explanation. GOD BLESS YOU Shyam

By the way, by mentioning that "go to the ISKON temple and give that person nicely" i meant sarcastically as i did not want to write any harsh words in this forum unlike most of the people. Didn't you read the following sentences " give him nicely with strong words" This does not mean, be nice and gentle to that person, but make that person realise that what he is talking in the name of spirituality and misbehaving should be brought to light, so that he does not misbehave with others. Also why somone has to stop going to temple for an idiot's misbehaviour. THats why i mentioned dont stop going to that temple. From your posting its very clear, that you are a person with no understandings of anything and just blindly come to conclusion without knowing anything about anyone and just pass some comments baselessly. You dont even know who I am and there is no personal interaction between you and me and how can you just pass on such comments towards someone without knowing that person. Shree Krishna will teach you a lesson for your arrogance certainly. Regards Shyam