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Rainbolily wrote:

> Hiya Andrew, I know you offered these with love...

> "opinions are like ... ... everyone has one" *g*

>

> I just wanted to say hi and was a good excuse :-)

>

> Love,

> Annette

>

 

Hi Annette,

Yes but if people are going to discuss the issue and its roots and possible

solutions

and all, it's good to read what the people on both sides are writing and

thinking. The

information we get through the americanadian media is pretty well chewed up

digested

and run through a whole other bunch of opinions I think.

And that's my opinion. Ho ho.

Interesting to hear what the chiefs said.

love to you and Nicholas,

andrew

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In a message dated 10/17/2000 7:06:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mmealer writes:

 

<<

While it is true, traders were allowed to travel across

the lands that were held by most tribes. There were

many borders and a significant amount of violence

(some ritualised) to maintain them. This lack of unity

among Native Americans was exploited time and again

by many to significant effect.

 

Mace

>>

True Mace, and it seems that they are now uniting, or doing

their best to do so. Friday, I saw a document presented by

one of the Indian Chiefs which had been signed at Sundance

this year by over two dozen Indian Chiefs stating a "Bill of

Rights" they were requesting. Many have decided that

Chief Leonard Crow Dog Lakota in the Dakotas shall be

the Chief of 260 tribes from Canada to Mexico.

 

The President, who had to cancel his meeting with them due

to the Mid Eastern conflagarations, has rescheduled the meeting.

They wish to establish a legal system, whereby they outline

their laws for themselves. Yesterday I met with someone to

ask their help in creating a fund for this. He was in favor of

it which hugely surprised me, so, we're beginning. I have to

run or I'll be late, please say prayers, it could be significant as

the Indians I met with were very, very spiritual people, living

very close to the Earth. They relied a great deal on telepathy,

which I must confess was difficult for me after meeting with

them almost all day and into the night ... in other words, I

caught what I could but by 9:00 p.m. my ears were dropping

more than my mind could catch.

 

But, let me leave you with this thought the love and integrity

of Chief Oscar Moreno and Chief Leonard Crow Dog are

breathtaking.

 

Please say prayers, some of the work is extraordinarily difficult

and political (and I have sworn all my life to stay out of politics

and here I am in the thick of it).

 

Mace and Everyone, if you know information on NAs and their

ways or websites, I'd appreciate it.

 

Thank you very much for your insightful post, Mace, truly, it

means alot as I'm carrying a bit of a load here.

 

Much Love,

Annette

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Rainbolily wrote:

>

>

> The Native American Chiefs I met with last week said, "your GATT

> Free Trade Treaty is something we have done for centuries." They,

> the Indians, never had borders, they were falsely created here by

> the English.

>

 

While it is true, traders were allowed to travel across

the lands that were held by most tribes. There were

many borders and a significant amount of violence

(some ritualised) to maintain them. This lack of unity

among Native Americans was exploited time and again

by many to significant effect.

 

Mace

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Probably can't help much, but in simple coversation

the following might be of microscopic assistance.

 

1. Don't point,(with your finger) this can be taken

as an insult.(especially among the Navaho).

2. Respect long silences in a conversation, this is

normal and not nessasarily an invitation to

interupt.

3. Don't touch unless invited, this can be taken

as inapropriate and disrespectful.

4. Avoid spiritual topics,as these can be regarded as

deeply personal (unless of course, invited)

5. Avoid a tendency to rush anything, It is rarely

appropriate.

 

In all likelyhood, these elders are well aquainted

with the foibles of white folk and will make generous

allowances for the same. Enjoy yourself, and remember

you are witnessing history.

 

Mace

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