Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 I`am Praying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 I think they are to pig headed and stubburn to listen!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 But I will hope and pray I`am wrong. And pray for love and peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 : Hi All, : : Seems this subject become "hot discussion" right now. : I don't know what the problem really is, but I believe that the problem must : be very complicated and complex that make the war happens. : And I think our discussion will be worth if the government on both sides are : listening, I hope so. : I'm thinking of our contribution to make peace come true in that region. : If people in this list were the president of that countries, I believe that : the war would have been stopped. : All I can do is pray.... may peace will be with them. : : Sabbe Satta Bhavantu Sukhitatta... : : Peace, : Nasir Hello Nasir, It is an interesting question to try to understand why do wars come to append. On another level, I fell/think/believe it is a bit like trying to understand why a body becomes sick?. The way the "modern" medical system tries to heals a body, by giving it pills, or surgery or rapid psychological or psychiatric interventions; this way could be compared to the peace pressures tactics to overcome the incentive for war in the Middle East, and in so many other places. Prayer is another solution, some correlation factor in some experiment seem to point that prayer may come to help a body to heal. And on the anthropological level, there is no doubt that a form of prayer may come to have a repercussion in the socio/economical/political situation to a point where it may come to resolve by "itself". But for those who come to be able to heal their body sickness before they occur or for those who come to find a great wisdom in being sick, in that the sickness may heal something they did not want to listen to or see before being sick; for those people, it may come as an evidence that in listening to the body the body comes to heal itself deeper and deeper by "itself". The interesting question when one comes to this evidence is then: "Who is listening to the body when it is allowed to heal itself almost away from the process of aging?" This "Who" who is listening is invisible, IMHO. On the long term the "Who" who is listening, that was for Plato, for example, "The Pure Idea" and for Marx, as another but opposed example, the "Proletariat" will come on an Antropo/socio/economico/politico level, in the long run, to be seen as Invisible also. Camus, for example, after world war II explored this Existential Idea, by bringing back to life the myth of Sisyphus, but his Existentialism was dead, more a reaction to the second world war than an act of pure creation as wished in, for example, the Nobel Prize "Creative Evolution" of Bergson. For when this Invisible Healer that will come to be listening to all the planet on an anthropological/socio/econo/politico level? I don't know. Meanwhile I simply observe from all side possible, as Andrew wonderfully pointed out, the expressed fears of the communities that come out as "egregore" (I.e. a demon created artificially and collectively by human communities infatuated with the trill of fear). In the tarot, a basis for logic is as good as another, it would be the passing from the card the devil, http://pages.infinit.net/carrea/tree/tarot/zen016.htm to that of the tower of destruction http://pages.infinit.net/carrea/tree/tarot/zen017.htm followed by the star, and the moon until the alchimical sun comes to shine on all communities. http://pages.infinit.net/carrea/tree/tarot/zen020.htm Praying with you Invisible Nasir, is it ok to say that I am dancing under the sun? shhhtttt I should not of said it so loud Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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