Guest guest Posted October 21, 2000 Report Share Posted October 21, 2000 On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:01:29 andrew macnab wrote: >> The hair shirt is feeling others thoughts and suffering to the point it >> interfers with your life. >> > >How does one determine that some thoughts and suffering one feels belong to others? >Is there really a mine and yours here? >I suggest that the hair shirt is the movement to divide self and other. Others >thoughts and suffering interfere with my life when I see myself as a separate limited >entity. Suffering under that delusion I further separate myself by putting up barriers >to others thoughts and suffering. I feel the shared experience of thoughts and the range of emotions, from joy to distress, can serve as a big pointer to unity and what lies beyond the bodies for the mind. In that respect, it may well be mohair and angora instead of brillo. Love, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Hello Angelique, I know I won't answer any question. : > > Excellent. That is what I want to know. How do I peel off this damn : > > hair shirt? I've spent much of this year trying to figger that one out, : > how : > > to get rid of the excessive psychic empathy that makes me go berserk. : > > Getting into arguments with my inner child who is a little Christian : > > schoolgirl who thinks suffering and martyrdom are good. She is very : > stubborn. : > > .. : > > Greetings to all.. : > : > Flaloha Lovely Lady... : > : > This has been one of my great dilemmas. I found it came from not being : who I : > am. When we are not being who we are, we can't help but want to be some : > 'body'. The suffering, the desires, the empathy are all keys that we : are not : > 'being'. Once we are 'being', all suffering, desires, and empathy, : cease to : > exist. : > : > To 'be' requires not that we give up our desires, but that we begin being : > that desire itself. Where there is being, there can be no wanted desires, : > nor unwanted suffering. : > : > Love you lots, : > xxxtg : : Thankyou, Teegee.. at present I am not suffering.. I have been stuck : in the witness state for the better part of a month. That is about how long : my eyes have been itchy allergic and weeping so much I have had to give up : on contact lenses. : I like the witness state, it has many advantages.. it is very peaceful, : there is no suffering. It allows me to do things that usually would drive : me bananas with boredom, like fall cleaning... but it is also completely : lacking in passion. Zombie. : : For me the Witness state is tied into an ADD detachment reflex.. pain : or any emotional intensity knock me out of body into the Void. I have made : good use of this tendency as a healer. When I feel someone's pain or : troubles I'm knocked into a place where there is wisdom, insights and power : to do something about it to help them so I can come back into my body. : Empathy as coercion to compassionate action. : : Sometimes the intensity gets too much and the Goddess connection goes : down.. then body goes off on it's own berserker to remove the source of the : pain, sometimes ending friendships to escape the pain of empathy. Alpha : wolf chewing it's leg off to escape a trap.. because it's hard for me to : heal my own body if I'm not in it. : The witness watches knowing this too, shall pass... : This time I've gagged the alpha wolf, turned it inward seeking to chew : off the empathy itself.. So I'm seemingly stuck here in the peaceful apathy : of nothingness... while my body weeps tears I have been blaming on an : allergy to house dust... : This too, shall pass.. I'm off for the weekend.. hope everybody has a : good one! I love this card in tarot, after the Queen of water, Justice http://pages.infinit.net/carrea/tree/tarot/zen009.htm where "Nature is scrupulously just. It is impossible to drop a pin without exciting a corresponding reaction in every Star." In such a world as represented by the last card, taking off a single hair from a shirt is a matter of infinite adjustment, an action that some may call Beauty Itself. Some say that it express the link between Tiphereth and Geburah. Maybe the path of the High Priestess http://pages.infinit.net/carrea/tree/tarot/highpriestess.htm Between Tiphereth and Kether, Is a passing into. Who knows? I don't really It was a nice weekend, thank you, Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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