Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 21:21:16 andrew macnab wrote: >Seung Sahn puts these 5 stages on a circle as a way of illustrating, with 1 at >0 degrees, 2 at 90, 3 at 180, 4 at 270, and 5 at 360. He says; > >"Zen is reaching 360. When you reach 360, all degrees on the circle disappear. The >circle is just a teaching device.... >Soen-sa then held up a book and a pencil and said, "this book and pencil, are they the >same or different? >at 0 they are different >at 90, since all things are one, the book is the pencil, the pencil is the book >at 180, all thinking is cut off, so there are no words and no speech. The answer is >only (here he hit the table) >at 270, there is perfect freedom, so a good answer is: the book is angry, the pencil >laughs. >Finally at 360 the truth is just like this. Spring comes, the grass grows by >itself.... Everything is as it is. So the answer here is: the book is the book. the >pencil is the pencil." But this time, the answer is not given by the student, but by the book and the pencil shining by themselves, or ? Love, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 mumble cat wrote: > But this time, the answer is not given by the student, but by the book and the pencil shining by themselves, or ? > > Love, > > Amanda. > The student could pick up the pencil and draw in the book love, andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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