Guest guest Posted October 28, 2000 Report Share Posted October 28, 2000 On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:32:33 Tony O'Clery wrote: >Would it not be better at an advanced age to try and live in the >moment instead of linearly satisfying lifetime desires. I know >people understand that for they live linearly also. Why is it better >to live a dream, surely it would be better to end one and become >realised 'Who am I?'. It is the living of dreams that keeps us trapped >in this false world of illusion and samsara. > >It is better to fix a goal then forget about it, and live in the >moment surrendering to the Divine Sakti. We cannot change what is to >happen only our attitude to it. That is the secret of the path to >liberation, cessation not building dreams. Hi, Tony and Jacqui Your friend's dream was indeed a big dream and good dream, which with the help of many ppl having a similar vision of the future came true. I think Tony agrees on the validity to refuse to accept living in an apartheid system and working to change it. Yeah, cessation of attachment to aspirations and ambitions, what go as "dreams", and acceptance of what appears in the moment must be the best thing since fish grew legs. I wonder, though, if activities that can be seen by some as aspirations, i.e. dreams, do not continue even after realization, only detached from individual doers and detached from the outcome of whatever activity is carried out. It's simply done. Maybe that would make the activity not belong to the definition of "aspiration and ambition", though, only being. Love, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Dear Tony, I am drawn to Self-enquiry and the Adwaitic path as you appear to be, Tony, but with coming into understanding the "teachings" surrounding Self-enquiry,"Who Am I", there has also come an understanding regarding non-doership, destiny, bodily karma, everything being pre-ordained, no free will etc. and yet the ultimate "teaching" is Silence. In understanding Adwaita ~ Ramana Maharshi lineage ~ ( and i admit to a falling out of that understanding/a sense of personal doership does rear it's head from time to time) there is awareness that we have no choice over who our teachers are or what path we follow, although it appears we do. - "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery Friday, October 27, 2000 1:32 PM Why is linear better than the moment? > Namaste All, > > I also enjoyed the story of the elderly lady at university. Without > sounding cynical it comes under warm fuzzies. > I don't know what was in her mind so I can't comment on her but I can > speak generally. > > Would it not be better at an advanced age to try and live in the > moment instead of linearly satisfying lifetime desires. I know > people understand that for they live linearly also. Why is it better > to live a dream, surely it would be better to end one and become > realised 'Who am I?'. It is the living of dreams that keeps us trapped > in this false world of illusion and samsara. > > It is better to fix a goal then forget about it, and live in the > moment surrendering to the Divine Sakti. We cannot change what is to > happen only our attitude to it. That is the secret of the path to > liberation, cessation not building dreams. > > Just my opinion. > > Om Namah Sivaya, Tony. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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