The need for Obsession / cut a leg

[Guest guest]

There was a fascinating documentary on "canal vie" (life network)

yesterday. It was about people who where convinced that they needed to have

one or two legs or arms cut off to fell more integral. And that from

childhood... From the psychiatrists, the surgeon and their own testimony we

could see on TV, they actually felt more happy after having a leg or a arm

cut then before it was cut on their demand. No one can really explain the

source of their obsession for needing to have a member cut, but the need is

and was certainly there for a little percentage of the population, to the

point that some may come to die from trying to cut their leg by themselves

like with a gun or by putting the legs or arms on a rail waiting for a

train to pass.

 

Life is just fascinating,

 

The reaction of the general population not wanting surgeon to perform such

an act is also fascinating. Like one of the surgeon said, "it is better

that I cut their leg than that they die from having their leg cut anyway by

an improvise surgeon that will most probably kill them in the process."

 

Antoine

[Guest guest]

, Antoine Carré <carrea@v...> wrote:

> There was a fascinating documentary on "canal vie" (life network)

> yesterday. It was about people who where convinced that they needed

to have

> one or two legs or arms cut off to fell more integral. And that from

> childhood... From the psychiatrists, the surgeon and their own

testimony we

> could see on TV, they actually felt more happy after having a leg

or a arm

> cut then before it was cut on their demand. No one can really

explain the

> source of their obsession for needing to have a member cut, but the

need is

> and was certainly there for a little percentage of the population,

to the

> point that some may come to die from trying to cut their leg by

themselves

> like with a gun or by putting the legs or arms on a rail waiting

for a

> train to pass.

 

 

Actually, I have read about such strange (?) obsessions.

 

I remember, one reason one obsessee gave to the desire for being

an amputee, was that amputees (this was above the knee leg

amputations) were vulnerable and needed someone else to take care of

them. The person saying this found the above characteristics

desirable and attractive.

 

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

[Guest guest]

<< Actually, I have read about such strange (?) obsessions.

 

I remember, one reason one obsessee gave to the desire for being

an amputee, was that amputees (this was above the knee leg

amputations) were vulnerable and needed someone else to take care of

them. The person saying this found the above characteristics

desirable and attractive.

 

 

Love, >>

 

Amanda.

 

Are you shure it was not one of the opinion of one of the doctors who

talked to her that was expressed in the statement you bring from your

memory? The person saying this found the explanation desirable and

attractive to its common belief, that at least I understand.

 

Antoine

 

Don't worry I won't ask you to cut me my legs

[Guest guest]

, Antoine Carré <carrea@v...> wrote:

> Are you shure it was not one of the opinion of one of the doctors

who

> talked to her that was expressed in the statement you bring from

your

> memory? The person saying this found the explanation desirable and

> attractive to its common belief, that at least I understand.

>

>

> Don't worry I won't ask you to cut me my legs

 

 

Phew !

 

I don't think there were any statements from the doctor performing

the surgery at the web site I read, only statements from people

having gone through amputations b/c of an obsession of the type you

mention (extremely few ppl) or b/c of accident or illness (the latter

was the web site's main subject).

 

Did the article you read have any thoughts as to possible reasons for

this obsession ? Or do you ?

 

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

[Guest guest]

<< Did the article you read have any thoughts as to possible reasons for

this obsession ? Or do you ?

 

 

Love,

 

Amanda. >>

 

Good question,

 

I don't know the answer to that question, a much as I don't know why a body

express a need for food.

 

Eating is an obsession as well, but it so incrusted deep into dna that we

find it normal when others don't find it normal that some specific person

may feel better in life with one or no legs instead of two.

>From talking to other psychiatrist and surgeons about this (my mother and

my wife The basic issue in forging this need in the woman you refer to,

of wanting to have her two legs cut, is most probably on a psychological

level. Maybe she saw young someone with no legs that had so much attention

that she did not have in her life. The case may be also neurological, a

deformation in the structure of the brain or nerves leading for a need to

have a leg cut from an emotional felt incentive.

 

The fact that mostly, it is men who want to have member cut, may also lead

to a correlation that giving birth to a child may bring a sense of

completeness women generally have that men don't.

 

I don't have any thoughts as to possible reasons for this obsession. Yet it

is a cultural fact that mothers, in let's say Tibet or Bali, do not leave

from an inch the contact in flesh they have with their child in the first

year. They sleep with them, carry them everywhere on them, etc... and

contrary as one would tend to believe those child become very independent

after that first year compared to those who where left alone with no human

contact. So maybe there is something to find there in the way to raise

children, if the way one is raise as anything to do with this obsession of

not feeling complete.

 

Antoine