Ganesha Lakshmi and the gods etc.

October 29, 2000

Namaste All,

There are no such Gods as Lakshmi, Durga, Ganesha etc. Indian

Sanathana Dharma, being an umbrella has many levels of belief, and

awareness, in it. Hence for easier understanding, natural forces and

energies were traditionally personified, with names like Lakshmi Durga

etc, especially for Village idol worshipers as such. They are as

real as the wind god. They only exist within the person, they really

have no separate existence. They are as real as we are perhaps.

Big Siva little Siva, is my way of differentiating between the image

of Siva the God Form, and Siva meaning Pure Consciousness or Brahman,

as Ramana uses it also. To me Siva means Brahman.

I will not respond to sarcasm, but will say, in my opinion,

ultimately, there is only Nirguna, there is no Saguna or even

Creation. So there is really no connection between Nirguna and Saguna.

Having said that there is no beginning to it but there is an end

Moksha.'Who am I?' Then one will find that it never happened at all.

Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

October 29, 2000

Tony,

How can one perceive an "end" without a "beginning"?

Namaste,

Linda

>Having said that there is no beginning to it but there is an end

>Moksha.'Who am I?' Then one will find that it never happened at

all.Om Namah Sivaya,

Tony.// All paths go

somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions,

and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back

into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It

is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the

Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self.

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October 29, 2000

Namaste,

There is no beginning for it never happened, it is illusion.

ONS Tony.

, "LC" <jyotish@w...> wrote:

> Tony,

>

> How can one perceive an "end" without a "beginning"?

>

> Namaste,

> Linda

>

> >Having said that there is no beginning to it but there is an end

> >Moksha.'Who am I?' Then one will find that it never happened at

all.

>

> Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

>

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> All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and

subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not

different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the

nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always

Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart

to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the

Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It

Self. Welcome all to a.

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October 29, 2000

Okay...so there is actually no end or moksha either?

Linda

Namaste,There is no beginning for it never happened, it is

illusion.ONS Tony. , "LC"

<jyotish@w...> wrote:> Tony,> > How can one perceive an "end" without

a "beginning"?> > Namaste,> Linda> > >Having said that there is no

beginning to it but there is an end > >Moksha.'Who am I?' Then one

will find that it never happened at all.> > Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.> >

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