Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Tony: > There is no beginning for it never happened, it is illusion. For one, when we do not get this, we are stuck in the concepts of a 'one direction timeline' and something close to 'flatlanders space'. Pretty well all of us hazily float about and grope around in a perceived world of two spatial and one temporal dimension... all conceived... Concepts. Tenuous and half hearted agreements. A few posts ago (to the Kundalini Gateway list) I suggested that we imagine the 'flat' yin yang symbol as a hyper or at least multi-dimensional object. That is of course still conceptual, but our attempt at it may shake us lose from our stuckness to prescribed world views and our hampered freedom through lack of clarity in them. Here it is: "Actually, I saw in one of my experiential visions that time and space are a *creation of each other*. They are the cause and effect of each other, there is a simultaneity to it, but that simultaneity is not of the same kind as our present space/time concurrencies. We live in very zoomed out circumstances, and the resolution of our existence level is quite coarse. Funny experience that is, as time/space create each other, they twirl about, not knowing who is what and when. It is very comical. The experience comes with great primal laughter and cosmic humor. Way more fun and not as agonizingly stupid (I mean this well :-) as the play of a dog trying to catch its tail. More something like a very dynamic and multi dimensional 'yin yang' representation. Try imagining the 'yin yang' thing as a spherical object, try to also imagine that the two-ness of it is really a one-ness, where only one beginnining is depicted but as two ends, the two shades could be seen as the two sides of one of those circular ribbons where the inside becomes the outside because of a twist in the ribbon before the two ends where connected and the circle was closed, (forget the name of the thing at the moment), the shape of an ambihelical ring." Ah, I just remember it: Moebius Strip or something or another, oh yes, hmm... also the Klein Bottle: http://www.cut-the-knot.com/do_you_know/moebius.html http://www.cut-the-knot.com/do_you_know/paper_strip.html#klein Neat stuff, unreal...! Anyway this is just an attempt to help some of you get there (nowhere really:-). We may use our mental abilities to imaginatively conceive. This will influence our limited use of our senses and finer perceptions and diminish our sole reliance on them so that at some point in time (ha!) we may get the void/form conundrum sorted out as it is so well clarified by Boddhisattva Avalokiteshvara in the Prajna Paramita Hridaya sutra. When we fall in love, losing ourselves in surrender, all conceptuality goes the way of the libi-dodo bird. ;-) Love, Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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