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Hi Linda and Colette,

 

Linda wrote:

>> I love this stuff too, figure might as well love the illusion as long as

I'm in it.

 

Absolutely!

As I wrote elsewhere, only *illusion* in which desire leads to suffering is

to be extinguished. Otherwise "illusion as illumination", divine energy

turning into light, light turning into matter (which is the original meaning

of 'maya') and matter to be illuminated with the divine light of

con-sciousness, is to be enjoyed.

 

That is the glory and bliss

that is to be in us,

which we are to be

and which we are to be in.

That is Divine Lila and Child's Play

Be That As It May :-)

 

And if it is to be,

it will be,

and if it will be

it is that already

 

We will

we will

we will discover

that we are (the) ONE already...

And if we *will* discover it

we have discovered it already !!!!!

Aha?

Aha!

 

Why not then enjoy it already, so that later, when we recognize that we are

(the) ONE, that we haven't wasted energy, time and space by not enjoying it

blissfully and childlikely.

 

This is the miracle, this life. This is divinely created reality.

 

Love it, do not leave it!

(Sorry for the pun.)

 

Love,

Wim

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>That is the glory and bliss>that is to be in us,>which we are to

be>and which we are to be in.>That is Divine Lila and Child's Play>Be

That As It May :-)>Why not then enjoy it already, so that later, when

we recognize that we >are>(the) ONE, that we haven't wasted energy,

time and space by not enjoying >it>blissfully and childlikely.>This

is the miracle, this life. This is divinely created reality.>Love it,

do not leave it!>(Sorry for the pun.)>Love,>Wim

Dance on !!!!!

Namaste,

Linda

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somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions,

and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back

into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It

is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the

Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self.

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, "LC" <jyotish@w...> wrote:

>

> >Saturn. I hear many people have a hard time with dear Shani.

(Think

> >that's the jyotish name for Saturn). Some say this is a time when

> >ignorance is destroyed. (Eaten:-)

>

> >:-) Nice chatting,

>

> >Luv,

>

> >Col

>

>

> Poor Shani greatly feared and somewhat maligned.

 

:-) haha! Oh dear I have been guilty of both, but when you see what

you have been holding onto as real which was not, then you realise

that getting your ass kicked to let go, is compassion.

>I tend to think

of him as the force that turns the coal into the diamond.

 

Yes. We do resist too don't we? :-)

>There is

another story as to how Ganesha wound up with the head of an elephant.

It seems that Shani had angered the gods and as a punishment anyone

that he looked upon would die. When Parvati gave birth to Ganesha all

of the gods gathered to pay their respects and Shani also came along

>but would not look directly at Parvati's baby. She asked him why and

when he told her her about the punishment she laughed and told him to

look at her baby....he did so and the baby lost his head. Being very

>angry she took away Shani's ability to walk.

 

Hi Linda. Someone told me that saturn was Shiva (?) Yes? No? In any

case, when I hear Osho talking about becoming headless or mindless &

I see alchemical pictures of heads being cut off to turn lead into

gold, then I relate that to getting out of that ole discriminating

head which demands the rational & unfortunately uses memory rather

than present moment spontanteity to do it. Perhaps his getting his

head cut off by the still silent one, was compassion in action? The

head is so active. His head turned into a little mouse & he sits

on it & steers it now instead of letting it run all over the

place (joke).

 

Or maybe it's one of the coachmen from Cinderella's pumpkin coach?:-)

 

>Siva returned and placed

the elephant's head upon his son. Since Shani had looked at Ganesha

only at Parvati's command Siva did the best he could to take away the

curse of Parvati. He could not completely do away with the curse so

while Shani walks he does so with a limp. Ganesha is Jupiter and when

Jupiter acts out of control one's ego generally swells along with

great acts of impulse. Shani will generally cut into the swollen ego

>to bring one back balance.

 

 

I really liked Nitin's sharing about Ganesha's special devotion to his

mum. It seems to me that we come to stillness through the Mother of

action (Shakti). We are active after all (in our play) & intimately

connected with Mother. I may be getting all this out of whack. I

really know so very little about them all. But Shiva I see as

transcendental source & Shakti as all the waves arising from that

ocean (action). Feel free to explain how all the rest arise out of

That!

> It's fun to share this with someone.

 

Yeah I agree. It's play.

>

> Love,

> Linda

 

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, "Wim Borsboom" <aurasphere@h...>

wrote:

> Hi Linda and Colette,

>

> Linda wrote:

> >> I love this stuff too, figure might as well love the illusion as

long as

> I'm in it.

>

> Absolutely!

> As I wrote elsewhere, only *illusion* in which desire leads to

suffering is

> to be extinguished. Otherwise "illusion as illumination", divine

energy

> turning into light, light turning into matter (which is the original

meaning

> of 'maya') and matter to be illuminated with the divine light of

> con-sciousness, is to be enjoyed.

 

Lovely! ;-) I agree!

 

Col

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