Guest guest Posted October 30, 2000 Report Share Posted October 30, 2000 Dear Bro Wim, What a beautiful thoughts... I love your posts very much. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and wisdom with us. Gate Gate Paragate Parasamgate Bodhisvaha... Nasir > ---------- > Wim Borsboom[sMTP:aurasphere] > Monday, October 30, 2000 2:13 AM > ; Kundalini > Illusion, illusion, and illumination > > Tony: > > > There is no beginning for it never happened, it is illusion. > > For one, when we do not get this, we are stuck in the concepts of a 'one > direction timeline' and something close to 'flatlanders space'. > Pretty well all of us hazily float about and grope around in a perceived > world of two spatial and one temporal dimension... all conceived... > Concepts. > Tenuous and half hearted agreements. > > A few posts ago (to the Kundalini Gateway list) I suggested that we > imagine > the 'flat' yin yang symbol as a hyper or at least multi-dimensional > object. > That is of course still conceptual, but our attempt at it may shake us > lose > from our stuckness to prescribed world views and our hampered freedom > through lack of clarity in them. > > Here it is: > "Actually, I saw in one of my experiential visions that time and space are > a > *creation of each other*. They are the cause and effect of each other, > there > is a simultaneity to it, but that simultaneity is not of the same kind as > our > present space/time concurrencies. We live in very zoomed out > circumstances, > and the resolution of our existence level is quite coarse. > Funny experience that is, as time/space create each other, they twirl > about, > not knowing who is what and when. It is very comical. The experience comes > with great primal laughter and cosmic humor. Way more fun and not as > agonizingly stupid (I mean this well :-) as the play of a dog trying to > catch its tail. More something like a very dynamic and multi dimensional > 'yin > yang' representation. Try imagining the 'yin yang' thing as a spherical > object, try to also imagine that the two-ness of it is really a one-ness, > where only one beginnining is depicted but as two ends, the two shades > could > be seen as the two sides of one of those circular ribbons where the inside > becomes the outside because of a twist in the ribbon before the two ends > where connected and the circle was closed, (forget the name of the thing > at > the moment), the shape of an ambihelical ring." > > Ah, I just remember it: Moebius Strip or something or another, oh yes, > hmm... also the Klein Bottle: > http://www.cut-the-knot.com/do_you_know/moebius.html > http://www.cut-the-knot.com/do_you_know/paper_strip.html#klein > Neat stuff, unreal...! > > Anyway this is just an attempt to help some of you get there (nowhere > really:-). > We may use our mental abilities to imaginatively conceive. This will > influence our limited use of our senses and finer perceptions and diminish > our sole reliance on them so that at some point in time (ha!) we may get > the > void/form conundrum sorted out as it is so well clarified by Boddhisattva > Avalokiteshvara in the Prajna Paramita Hridaya sutra. > > When we fall in love, losing ourselves in surrender, all conceptuality > goes > the way of the libi-dodo bird. ;-) > > Love, Wim > > > > // > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, > perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and > subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not > different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the > nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. > It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the > Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of > Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome > all to a. > > To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at > www., and select the User Center link from > the menu bar > on the left. This menu will also let you change your > subscription > between digest and normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2000 Report Share Posted October 30, 2000 Dear Nasir, > Gate Gate Paragate Parasamgate Bodhisvaha... Yes, yes Love, Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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