[NDS] practice

[Guest guest]

On 11/9/00 at 8:37 AM Mark W. Otter wrote:

 

ºHi Good Friends,

[...]

ºWell, I ask you if you recognize what Jack is talking about, and I say

ºif you do, then you KNOW IT. (I like the fact that Jack doesn't

ºcapitalize his key words, but hey...) I also am realizing that I don't

ºmuch care about the label that is put on the experience. I have it and

ºthen later on I get caught up in my monkey mind, so is it

º"enlightenment"?

 

There is but enlightenment so the answer is "yes". The "but" depends on

"preparatory practice" or the lack of it. With such a "practice" (whether

spontaneous or "organized"), the chance that the monkey mind regains its former

"status" is nil and lacking such a practice, the monkey revives again and again.

What is worse, the monkey mind will veil the insight that would initiate its

demise.

 

Am I experienced as Jimi Hendrix used to ask? Will it

ºlast next time? If not, can I get it back again? Who fucking cares?

[...]

Right, no one cares.

 

There is only enlightenment and it doesn't happen - that is observation, not

argument. Regarding the veiling mind, the metaphor of a multi-blade propeller.

When the focus is on the blades unmoving, they seem to veil "what is behind" and

that notion remains when the blades are turning so fast that "what is behind"

shows clearly. According to my memory, the focus on the propeller blades is the

moment the basic feelings in a newborn arise for the first time (like hunger,

thirst, having to pee and to shit) and unless a miracle happens (like

"enlightened" parents who notice and respond accordingly), monkey mind starts to

develop.

 

Love,

Jan

 

 

 

||||||||||||||||

/ ___ \

<( @ @ )>

\ = /

///// ^^^^^^^^^ \\\\\

|| ||

^^ ^^

Arial 10

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/09/2000 1:20:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kvy9 writes:

 

<< monkey mind starts to develop.

 

Love,

Jan

>>

Funny, i just said this to someone, "without meditation,

the mind is completely a monkey."

 

I have a lengthy response to some writings ... I think it's

too long and detailed for list, but covers some of the more

crucial subtle points, sending in the morning when not

so tired, if someone else wants to see, they're welcome to

ask for it, but it's not easy going material.

 

Uploading Dutch ginger cake into cyber space, was out

with Dutch friend, Native American Indian Chief from

Mexico, Chinese friend, I think sometimes it's a mini U.N.

around here, one of the upsides of Washington. Downside

being the politics :-( Can you imagine the internal machinations

inside the political machine now? I'm sooo glad the political

monkeys are in Florida a moment *g*.

 

Love,

 

Annette