Enlightenment and Realization

[Guest guest]

Hello Wim,

 

Maybe I am being very bothersome now.

 

Just to comment, not to argue, because, after all, who can argue about

this ?

 

If I'm accidentally stepping on your tail, let me know.

 

 

, "Wim Borsboom" <aurasphere@h...>

wrote:

> I found that for me the two, enlightenment and realization, came one after

> the other... first enlightenment then realization. Just wait, I will

> explain.

> I had to discover that enlightenment is not the same as realization. The

> western imprecise use of the word realization indicates something 'mental',

> as in, "O, I realize that." but the original meaning of the word realization

> is 'to make something real', realize it, make it tangible, factual, actual

> in action and function, living love, light and truth second by second.

> Whereas enlightenment flips the switch, realization is the shining through

> process.

 

The latter is indeed a splendid metaphor.

 

Turning on the light, Aha, and then bringing this Aha experience to its

full and logical conclusion.

 

I very much agree on the somewhat difficult use of "Realization" in

this connection. Maybe better words are "Becoming" or "Process of being

more and more" or "Seeing, with increasing intensity that body and mind

is pure being and then being just that".

 

> It is like irrigating an area of land, you open the water-gate once, it only

> takes a second ...(Enlightenment !), but then the water has to cover the

> land to be irrigated slowly. It has to reach each and every plant with just

> the right amount of water, not the full blast, lest the tender plants get

> flushed away. Each plant has to be given what it can handle, gradually, a

> bit more every time over time (Realization). With irrigation one may open

> the water-gate once a week, the plants though experience that they get

> watered more or less continuously.

 

is this so that we can grow rice and then have the cosmos and the

entire wheel of dharma contained in each grain ?

 

After the moment of truth, there is little for the self's vibrations

and voice / will / voiced will to come through in the body and mind.

The self's voice can now be expressed as a manifestation of Kundalini,

meaning that an alignment between bodymind and reality has taken place,

(one is coming very close to the flame) as happens with some people, or

the manifestation, where already present, puts on the afterburner and

picks up speed.

 

The irrigation image is a good one, indicates the freshness and waking

upness and being nourished-ness of the process.

 

But it is also one of pure undressing, stripping away the layers of

that which is not true and which hinders true expression of being. In

my eyes, it feels something like being a satellite ? falling

through the atmosphere and slowly burning up, and becoming one with the

atmosphere, the rest having been sublimated away. The Mind thinking

itself into existence again, having seen what it is.

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

[Guest guest]

Dear Amanda:

> Hello Wim,

> Maybe I am being very bothersome now.

> Just to comment, not to argue, because, after all, who can argue about

> this ?

> If I'm accidentally stepping on your tail, let me know.

 

No, you are not stepping on my tail, and your comments are of course very

right. You know the way it is with metaphors, they never cover the whole

topic. So, thank you for adding so beautifully to it.

The cultivator who does the irrigation will at times indeed do some

cleaning, burning, tilling the soil, pruning etc.

> I very much agree on the somewhat difficult use of "Realization" in

> this connection.

 

When in doubt about a word I always revert to its original meaning, being

helped by etymology. The vibrations of the original meaning are still

contained within a word's sound package (And more, Christopher Wynter will

like this), hidden perhaps because of verbal abuse, misuse and very often

the reversal of the meaning of the word over time.

Take the word 'maya' for instance, 'matter'. It used to deal with measuring

reality now it deals with illusion. Funny that, it happens often.

I connect 'realization', 'reality', 'real' with 'res' which is Latin for

'thing', something being handled, worked upon and later being argued about

'res publica'. ('thing' in German came to mean bidding, then judicial

arguing then even the whole judicial process, in old Dutch "geding")

> is this so that we can grow rice and

> then have the cosmos and the entire wheel

> of dharma contained in each grain ?

 

Yes and beautifully!

It would be a neat exercise to find out what 'karma' and 'dharma' originally

pointed to. Let's try this just quickly....

'Karma' has to do with 'harmony' which came originally from putting wooden

things together, fitting them, harmonizing them, balancing them. Fitting a

wooden shaft in the (hopefully) centred hole of a wooden wheel securing it

with pegs and balancing it. Karma goes back all the way to the invention of

the wheel and things that ride on it.

turning the wheel of karma. (har---> char--->chariot----> cart----> car,

cart wheel.) Neat eh?

'Dharma' has to do with 'the given', 'data', and the 'giver' (the latin do,

dedi, datum, dare, come from a Sanskrit root 'dha' give ---> giver ---> law

giver. Brahman in one of his hands sometimes holds a mirror or disk with the

Sanskrit letter 'dha'. For the word 'dharma' there are other etymological

options but I like this one because of the nice connection with daddy (from

the Sanskrit 'tata' <---- da <---- dha).

Also neat.

 

:-) Dharma = Father knows best and we follow his rules.

Hmmm...patriarchal society...

Hhmmmm. Still neat?

 

Thanks Amanda

Love,

Wim