RE: [K-list] Enlightenment/The Distance between Sudden and Gradual

[Guest guest]

 

Wim Borsboom [aurasphere]

 

Dear Harsha,

 

You wrote (to satsangh):

> Some say that Enlightenment is "sudden", as if struck by lightening, and

one

> is never the same. Some say that Realization takes place "gradually" and

> just as the clouds evaporate and dissipate with the wind and the rain, Sun

> eventually shines brightly. Both views are meaningful and may be helpful.

 

I found that for me the two, enlightenment and realization, came one after

the other... first enlightenment then realization. Just wait, I will

explain.

I had to discover that enlightenment is not the same as realization. The

western imprecise use of the word realization indicates something 'mental',

as in, "O, I realize that." but the original meaning of the word realization

is 'to make something real', realize it, make it tangible, factual, actual

in action and function, living love, light and truth second by second.

Whereas enlightenment flips the switch, realization is the shining through

process.

I am looking for a better metaphor....???? Hmmm?! OK!.

It is like irrigating an area of land, you open the water-gate once, it only

takes a second ...(Enlightenment !), but then the water has to cover the

land to be irrigated slowly. It has to reach each and every plant with just

the right amount of water, not the full blast, lest the tender plants get

flushed away. Each plant has to be given what it can handle, gradually, a

bit more every time over time (Realization). With irrigation one may open

the water-gate once a week, the plants though experience that they get

watered more or less continuously.

When I got struck: "Aha, Eureka, Big Laughter". I knew that THIS was IT, I

was over the hump, I had it made. But boy-o-boy did I get messed up, too

much light at once. I was even rushing into it. It was like I flew into an

halogen lamp. (Dutch: "Liep ik even tegen de lamp"). I did not 'realize'

that I had to realize that light.... make it real. Oh, I got IT straight,

and all of it, the full blast... the full Light of Truth, Knowledge and

Love. But that Knowledge did not become Power (Don Juan). The Light did not

become Matter. That is the law on earth we have to turn light into matter,

we have to materialize it, manifest it, realize light in time and space.

(Now, when you read that last part carefully there is an AHA in it.)

 

Love, Wim

Give me all

but not all at once.

__________

Hi Wim. You have a way with words. "Give me all but not all at once"! That

is funny and could apply to a lot of things of consumption. The irrigation

metaphor is great. I think you would like Aurbindo's writings. He also talks

about bringing the light down. I liked what Amanda said below in response to

you.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

Amanda: The irrigation image is a good one, indicates the freshness and

waking

upness and being nourished-ness of the process.

 

But it is also one of pure undressing, stripping away the layers of

that which is not true and which hinders true expression of being. In

my eyes, it feels something like being a satellite ? falling

through the atmosphere and slowly burning up, and becoming one with the

atmosphere, the rest having been sublimated away. The Mind thinking

itself into existence again, having seen what it is.

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

[Guest guest]

Elightenment: In the words of Ghalib, “Those who know are always

drunk on the wine of the Self.”

 

Robert... I have my cup, waiting to be filled.

[Guest guest]

Dear Harsha,

 

You wrote:

> I think you would like Aurobindo's writings.

 

Some 30 years ago I read pretty well all his books.

I remember the day we received a large box from Pondicherry, India, filled

with them, and so cheap (why was that important?). I even hard covered all

the books myself in a deep blue shiny fabric (his colour). I was working

midnight shift in a factory, where I had to look after an automated heat

treatment machine, room was often 90 F hot, had to shovel metal parts in

every ten minutes, in between I read Aurobindo. Even waded through his

Savitri. Every sentence a universe of its own. They are doing a new edition,

closer to his later corrections.

I could not 'get into' the Mother's approach, still have some difficulty

with her. I have a feeling that Aurobindo had some difficulty with her as

well...

My son was in Auroville for half a year last year, he loved it. My wife was

there as well for about a month about a month ago. She had quickly seen

enough... too much 'Mother'... not nough authenticity... The Matrimandir

(temple) she found very beautiful, my son did not care about that.

 

Love, Wim