Guest guest Posted November 23, 2000 Report Share Posted November 23, 2000 Andy Lesmana Sastrahadijaya <als@c...> Thu Nov 23, 2000 5:50pm RE: Re: Aum-Ramana-Aum I LUV IT! Dear Colette, Who the 'heaven' is Pieter? Regards/Andy (one of the lurkers at ) Hello lurker Andy, Pieter is someone who posts quite deep profound posts from time to time around & about. Most here would have spotted him around. Harsha shared his stuff here some time ago. I will share a bit of Pieter's writings "Maya mirrored (or reflecting on itself) = ayam or "I AM" "Who is in my temple? Who is in my temple? All the doors open themselves. All the lights light themselves. Darkness like a dark bird Flies away, Oh flies away." The Self, Maya, and the Heart: The Fundamentals of Non-Dualism Summary: The concepts of the Self, Maya, and the Heart are the central themes or tenets of the Katha Upanishad and the Bhagavad Gita. Out of these and similar books (or scriptures) comes the philosophy of non-dualism or Vedanta. Part I: Considering the concepts of Self, Maya, and Heart, as viewed from the sages The Self: According to the ancient sages of India, the Self is neither the body, thoughts, feelings, nor intellect, but rather all pervasive Being/Consciousness manifesting as the Heart in all beings, from which emanates the awareness of "I" and Knowledge of the Self, which includes the realization that all knowledge is in and from the subject-"I", the seer, not the object. "The individual self, which is Brahman mistakenly identified with Maya, experiences the gunas* which proceed from Maya. He, who has experienced Brahman directly and known it to be other than Maya and the gunas, will not be reborn, no matter how he has lived his life." Bhagavad Gita, p. 103 "That in which the sun rises and in which it sets, that which is the source of all the powers of nature and of the senses, that which nothing can transcend - that is the immortal Self" Katha Upanishad, p. 21 "The Self-Existent made the senses turn outward. Accordingly, man looks toward what is without, and sees not what is within. Rare is he, longing for immortality, shuts his eyes to what is without and beholds the Self." Katha Upanishad, p. 20 Maya is the self-existent beginningless power of Brahman, the Self, which makes us imagine that the sense of "I" felt in the body and the related thoughts and feelings are the Self. In the Bhagavad Gita (P. 59), this imagining or delusion is stated like a dream: "You dream you are the doer You dream the action bears fruit It is your ignorance It is the world's delusion That gives you those dreams." More here ~ http://www.nondualitysalon.com/ Just type Pieter Schoonheim Samara in the Search Engine. regards, Colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2000 Report Share Posted November 23, 2000 Thank you for your info, Colette. Love/Andy sentto-73173-12426-974975152-als=cbn.net.id (AT) returns (DOT) [sentto-73173-12426-974975152-als=cbn.net.id (AT) returns (DOT) ] On Behalf Of Colette Thursday, November 23, 2000 5:30 PM Pieter Is Andy Lesmana Sastrahadijaya <als@c...> Thu Nov 23, 2000 5:50pm RE: Re: Aum-Ramana-Aum I LUV IT! Dear Colette, Who the 'heaven' is Pieter? Regards/Andy (one of the lurkers at ) Hello lurker Andy, Pieter is someone who posts quite deep profound posts from time to time around & about. Most here would have spotted him around. Harsha shared his stuff here some time ago. I will share a bit of Pieter's writings "Maya mirrored (or reflecting on itself) = ayam or "I AM" "Who is in my temple? Who is in my temple? All the doors open themselves. All the lights light themselves. Darkness like a dark bird Flies away, Oh flies away." The Self, Maya, and the Heart: The Fundamentals of Non-Dualism Summary: The concepts of the Self, Maya, and the Heart are the central themes or tenets of the Katha Upanishad and the Bhagavad Gita. Out of these and similar books (or scriptures) comes the philosophy of non-dualism or Vedanta. Part I: Considering the concepts of Self, Maya, and Heart, as viewed from the sages The Self: According to the ancient sages of India, the Self is neither the body, thoughts, feelings, nor intellect, but rather all pervasive Being/Consciousness manifesting as the Heart in all beings, from which emanates the awareness of "I" and Knowledge of the Self, which includes the realization that all knowledge is in and from the subject-"I", the seer, not the object. "The individual self, which is Brahman mistakenly identified with Maya, experiences the gunas* which proceed from Maya. He, who has experienced Brahman directly and known it to be other than Maya and the gunas, will not be reborn, no matter how he has lived his life." Bhagavad Gita, p. 103 "That in which the sun rises and in which it sets, that which is the source of all the powers of nature and of the senses, that which nothing can transcend - that is the immortal Self" Katha Upanishad, p. 21 "The Self-Existent made the senses turn outward. Accordingly, man looks toward what is without, and sees not what is within. Rare is he, longing for immortality, shuts his eyes to what is without and beholds the Self." Katha Upanishad, p. 20 Maya is the self-existent beginningless power of Brahman, the Self, which makes us imagine that the sense of "I" felt in the body and the related thoughts and feelings are the Self. In the Bhagavad Gita (P. 59), this imagining or delusion is stated like a dream: "You dream you are the doer You dream the action bears fruit It is your ignorance It is the world's delusion That gives you those dreams." More here ~ http://www.nondualitysalon.com/ Just type Pieter Schoonheim Samara in the Search Engine. regards, Colette // All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription between digest and normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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