Amanda/German experience

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On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:18:18 Omkara Datta wrote:

>You see me? I thought I unplugged that little mini-cam on top of my

>monitor (just kidding) :-).

 

Oooh, I have my own little eye in the sky with which to spy.

>This is not "spiritual process" at all, but purely psychological

>process (can be worked out through a therapist and probably should

>be). Actually, it can be argued that the words "process"

>and "spiritual" don't go together at all. We *ARE* what we *ARE*

>always, where is the "process" in I AM or Presence?

 

I very much agree with the last statement.

 

But for the person who is not aware of I AM and his/her Presence, there is a

great number of confusing impressions being superimposed on the basic awareness,

and the cycle of attending to suffering and pleasure, as you pointed out in your

previous post, dominates the life.

 

I see the chain of events or whatever one could call it, leading to a seeing

through of the cycle of gaining /avoiding suffering and pleasure and leading up

to the decision to turn inwards to the inner self, to becoming conscious of

one's own awareness, as a process.

 

How one chooses to regard this as something belonging to the realm of psychology

or spirituality is up to each.

>I can only quote Nisargadatta: "How can time help you?" Time is

>utterly subjective and ultimately illusory. The sense of time

>depends entirely on memory.

 

Yes, time does cease to be a factor when emotional and mental memory and the

little "I" is seen for what it is.

>It's really sad that you see people who can awaken TO the NOW

>as "exceptional." It's a sad commentary on the general state of the human

population.

 

Yeah, it's very sad indeed.

 

Well, you got to work with what you have.

>Here's a quote from a book I have, written by an

>M.D.:

>

>"The assumption that the norm -- or average man or woman -- is at a

>healthy level of emotional development is the underlying mistake of

>at least this century in the fields of psychology, psychiatry, and

>sociology. I do not say this for shock effect or theatrics, but just

>to point out an elemental error that has caused horrendous

>distortions in our understanding of human nature. It is a basic

>blooper that makes most so-called research completely worthless.

>Surely if the average were normal, this planet would be a much

>happier place and most of its population would be untroubled,

>inwardly and outwardly happy and content individuals. The facts

>speak for themselves."

 

The norm, the standard, may have been awareness and being of the natural state

(Sajaha stithi) once upon a time, but this is not so in today's world.

 

The norm, as the normal and the average, remains less aware of its own Presence.

 

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

 

 

 

 

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