I am the cause and the effect of my being (part one)

[Guest guest]

Dear Everyone,

 

The reason for this 'part one':

I am going to send the start (part one) of this post already although it is

by far not finished.

Was somewhat involved in the Canadian Election, so I did not have enough

time Sunday night to finish this off. However I did not want to loose the

momentum of this thread.

-------

 

Dear Colette and Andrew

 

Wim:

> "I am the cause and the effect of my being."

 

Colette:

> I agree with you Wim. Seeing is creative.

> That is why it is important

> to take responsibility.

> What you see is your Self.

 

Andrew:

> When things and events are seen as

> spontaneous the question is meaningless.

> There is neither free will nor is there

> not free will, there is only this.

 

There is a verb in German, 'wurden' and Dutch, 'worden' for which English

does not seem to have a suitable equivalent. The easy translation is 'to

become' but that is too meagre to express organic dynamics of 'wurden'.

The word 'to develop', although closer, misses the sense of liveliness.

The English verbs 'will' and 'would' are closely related as they also

derive,

just like 'worden', 'wurden' and 'free' from the same Sanskrit

root 'vri'='to choose and go freely'. So in older languages 'wurden' and

'being free' go hand in hand. Interesting that in Sanskrit they are

tied together in one word 'vri'= 'free will'.

Language is philosophy, that is especially so when you go back far enough in

the history of language.

 

I want to write a bit about the 'wurding' of the world, creation.

"I am the cause and the effect of my being" is really a translation of what

Jesus said about his human / divine being, I AM. He must have been in good

godly form that day.

 

What I am going to write, may not sound very serious at first but it is

about serious stuff.

See how far you can come along without going too crazy. I want to give a

descriptive shape to my experience of the original "I am the cause and the

effect of my being" thing. My original great AHA, my "O MY GOD"

 

How did stuff, time and space come along from just "whatever / nothing

whatsoever". I have tried to describe it in different words in previous

posts,

but this time I'll use two illustrious geniuses and their work to help me

along.

 

One time, in 1941 or so, Richard Feynman and his professor friend John

Wheeler (both Princeton) are on the phone talking to each other, and while

bantering along John Wheeler jokingly considers:

 

There is only one particle...

Not more than one...

One and only..

Just one..

One...

1

 

Dick hmmmms, considering it gravely.

 

They decide to keep the joke up and they consider that whatever it IS... it

also... IS NOT.

This simply must be so. You see this is higher math.

1=1

1-1=0

 

Nothing new to this, Avalokiteshvara Bodhisattva had already said so, a long

time ago, "void=form=void=form" and Nisargadatta more recently confirmed it:

"What will be, already is." John and Dick are in illustrious company. When

these guys, I mean John and Dick, are fooling around though you have to

take them seriously though. They were thinking electron / positron

particle / anti-particle. ('Article / antarticle' I say.)

 

John Wheeler's 'one particle' has no inkling of space, it's time has not

come yet. 'Tain't even there, you see.

 

More to follow

 

Love,

Wim

[Guest guest]

Wim Borsboom wrote:

......

> There is a verb in German, 'wurden' and Dutch, 'worden' for which English

> does not seem to have a suitable equivalent. The easy translation is 'to

> become' but that is too meagre to express organic dynamics of 'wurden'.

> The word 'to develop', although closer, misses the sense of liveliness.

> The English verbs 'will' and 'would' are closely related as they also

> derive,

> just like 'worden', 'wurden' and 'free' from the same Sanskrit

> root 'vri'='to choose and go freely'. So in older languages 'wurden' and

> 'being free' go hand in hand. Interesting that in Sanskrit they are

> tied together in one word 'vri'= 'free will'.

> Language is philosophy, that is especially so when you go back far enough in

> the history of language.

>

> I want to write a bit about the 'wurding' of the world, creation.

> "I am the cause and the effect of my being" is really a translation of what

> Jesus said about his human / divine being, I AM. He must have been in good

> godly form that day.

.....

 

This word has slipped beneath the surface in modern English, but the word

"weird","weirding" is the same word in its archaic meaning. The Fates are the

"Weird

sisters", and the casting of spells, which is essentially messing around with

fate,

creating in a sense, is "weirding". The word "world" itself comes from the same

source

I think, being the created. I wonder if the word "word" is also from the same

root.

Word is information, and the world and ourselves are better understood as

information

rather than as solid objects/subjects.

 

 

> What I am going to write, may not sound very serious at first but it is

> about serious stuff.

> See how far you can come along without going too crazy. I want to give a

> descriptive shape to my experience of the original "I am the cause and the

> effect of my being" thing. My original great AHA, my "O MY GOD"

>

> How did stuff, time and space come along from just "whatever / nothing

> whatsoever". I have tried to describe it in different words in previous

> posts,

> but this time I'll use two illustrious geniuses and their work to help me

> along.

>

> One time, in 1941 or so, Richard Feynman and his professor friend John

> Wheeler (both Princeton) are on the phone talking to each other, and while

> bantering along John Wheeler jokingly considers:

>

> There is only one particle...

> Not more than one...

> One and only..

> Just one..

> One...

> 1

>

> Dick hmmmms, considering it gravely.

>

> They decide to keep the joke up and they consider that whatever it IS... it

> also... IS NOT.

> This simply must be so. You see this is higher math.

> 1=1

> 1-1=0

>

> Nothing new to this, Avalokiteshvara Bodhisattva had already said so, a long

> time ago, "void=form=void=form" and Nisargadatta more recently confirmed it:

> "What will be, already is." John and Dick are in illustrious company. When

> these guys, I mean John and Dick, are fooling around though you have to

> take them seriously though. They were thinking electron / positron

> particle / anti-particle. ('Article / antarticle' I say.)

>

> John Wheeler's 'one particle' has no inkling of space, it's time has not

> come yet. 'Tain't even there, you see.

>

> More to follow

>

> Love,

> Wim

 

timespacebeingtimespacebeingtimespacebeing (inseparable)

 

love,

andrew

[Guest guest]

Why are you weirdly wired,

the seeker politely inquired

I Wire you "why are?" 'd the One did reply

We're not wired or mired, the many deny

so why are we wire free? the question was asked

But the answer to most of we remains tightly masked

 

yikes, I dunno where I'm going with this, so perhaps I'll just continue

to float, dreaming of a boat.

 

Love, Mark

ps it's wierd here in the weir.

 

andrew macnab wrote:

> Wim Borsboom wrote:

> .....

> > There is a verb in German, 'wurden' and Dutch, 'worden' for which

> English

> > does not seem to have a suitable equivalent. The easy translation is

> 'to

> > become' but that is too meagre to express organic dynamics of

> 'wurden'.

> > The word 'to develop', although closer, misses the sense of

> liveliness.

> > The English verbs 'will' and 'would' are closely related as they

> also

> > derive,

> > just like 'worden', 'wurden' and 'free' from the same Sanskrit

> > root 'vri'='to choose and go freely'. So in older languages 'wurden'

> and

> > 'being free' go hand in hand. Interesting that in Sanskrit they are

> > tied together in one word 'vri'= 'free will'.

> > Language is philosophy, that is especially so when you go back far

> enough in

> > the history of language.

> >

> > I want to write a bit about the 'wurding' of the world, creation.

> > "I am the cause and the effect of my being" is really a translation

> of what

> > Jesus said about his human / divine being, I AM. He must have been

> in good

> > godly form that day.

> ....

>

> This word has slipped beneath the surface in modern English, but the

> word

> "weird","weirding" is the same word in its archaic meaning. The Fates

> are the "Weird

> sisters", and the casting of spells, which is essentially messing

> around with fate,

> creating in a sense, is "weirding". The word "world" itself comes from

> the same source

> I think, being the created. I wonder if the word "word" is also from

> the same root.

> Word is information, and the world and ourselves are better understood

> as information

> rather than as solid objects/subjects.

>

>

>

> > What I am going to write, may not sound very serious at first but it

> is

> > about serious stuff.

> > See how far you can come along without going too crazy. I want to

> give a

> > descriptive shape to my experience of the original "I am the cause

> and the

> > effect of my being" thing. My original great AHA, my "O MY GOD"

> >

> > How did stuff, time and space come along from just "whatever /

> nothing

> > whatsoever". I have tried to describe it in different words in

> previous

> > posts,

> > but this time I'll use two illustrious geniuses and their work to

> help me

> > along.

> >

> > One time, in 1941 or so, Richard Feynman and his professor friend

> John

> > Wheeler (both Princeton) are on the phone talking to each other, and

> while

> > bantering along John Wheeler jokingly considers:

> >

> > There is only one particle...

> > Not more than one...

> > One and only..

> > Just one..

> > One...

> > 1

> >

> > Dick hmmmms, considering it gravely.

> >

> > They decide to keep the joke up and they consider that whatever it

> IS... it

> > also... IS NOT.

> > This simply must be so. You see this is higher math.

> > 1=1

> > 1-1=0

> >

> > Nothing new to this, Avalokiteshvara Bodhisattva had already said

> so, a long

> > time ago, "void=form=void=form" and Nisargadatta more recently

> confirmed it:

> > "What will be, already is." John and Dick are in illustrious

> company. When

> > these guys, I mean John and Dick, are fooling around though you have

> to

> > take them seriously though. They were thinking electron / positron

> > particle / anti-particle. ('Article / antarticle' I say.)

> >

> > John Wheeler's 'one particle' has no inkling of space, it's time has

> not

> > come yet. 'Tain't even there, you see.

> >

> > More to follow

> >

> > Love,

> > Wim

>

> timespacebeingtimespacebeingtimespacebeing (inseparable)

>

> love,

> andrew

>

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