Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 > On 12/5/00 at 1:59 PM Gloria Lee wrote: > Dear jb, > > Jan, I have this info on the authority of none other than Desmond Morris, of Naked Ape fame. The cat has adopted you and therefore regards you as her mother. This is why the mice are brought home to you, to show you her skills at hunting. Cats will play with their prey as a completely separate instinct from hunger or the need to kill them. It may be possible that belling the cat with a bell or some noisemaker on a collar, will reduce her ability to capture the mice. She is likely to feel highly offended by your lack of appreciation for her gifts. > > Love, Glo > > Oops - I didn't know that cats behave that way, especially that she would feel offended when refusing the gift.. Having diverted her attention often with food is probably right after all... The cat is quite alone and cats usually are kept outside. Being confined to the house, sitting on the terrace probably has been interpreted as company by her... And that will change when on two feet again. A collar with a bell is a great tip, I'll buy one as soon as the foot allows going again. > > Love, > Jan Dear Glo and Jan, Forgive me for poking my nose here with my two cents but I know the cat and she is dear to my heart. So I would like to add some info to the picture and de-lurk at for a brief moment The cat at stake , is not a domestic cat. And I do not think you intend to domesticate her, do you Jan? You do not let her into the house. She lives at large and she spends her time hunting. It's her life, she is free. You keep her company now, immobilized as you are, but when on two legs again, you will probably forget her, as happened before, busy with your mountain climbing or other activities. I am not criticizing it in any sense, it's not an attempt on my side to say that you should domesticate her or sth It is good as it is, you both like it, only the colar doesn't go in here well, imho. I thought that belling her you may make her really miserable. It's a bit like you began to bell wild animals at large. When you spent less time with her, after the plaster is removed from the foot, she will hopefully stop bringing mice to your terrace If, however, you decided to buy her the collar after all, make sure it is rubber or the part of it is rubber - it has to go off easily if she catches it on a branch or some other obstacle. In the US they probably have only "good" ones but where I live and where Jan lives it may happen otherwise Love to All, Liliana (following with interest all the discussions here and gratefull for your warm, uplifting and amusing company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 On 12/6/00 at 10:44 AM Liliana Pechal wrote: º> On 12/5/00 at 1:59 PM Gloria Lee wrote: º> Dear jb, º> º> Jan, I have this info on the authority of none other than Desmond Morris, of Naked Ape fame. The cat has adopted you and therefore regards you as her mother. This is why the mice are brought home to you, to show you her skills at hunting. Cats will play with their prey as a completely separate instinct from hunger or the need to kill them. It may be possible that belling the cat with a bell or some noisemaker on a collar, will reduce her ability to capture the mice. She is likely to feel highly offended by your lack of appreciation for her gifts. º> º> Love, Glo º> º> Oops - I didn't know that cats behave that way, especially that she would feel offended when refusing the gift.. Having diverted her attention often with food is probably right after all... The cat is quite alone and cats usually are kept outside. Being confined to the house, sitting on the terrace probably has been interpreted as company by her... And that will change when on two feet again. A collar with a bell is a great tip, I'll buy one as soon as the foot allows going again. º> º> Love, º> Jan º ºDear Glo and Jan, º ºForgive me for poking my nose here with my two cents but I know the cat and she is dear to my heart. So I would like to add some info to the picture and de-lurk at for a brief moment º ºThe cat at stake , is not a domestic cat. And I do not think you intend to domesticate her, do you Jan? You do not let her into the house. She lives at large and she spends her time hunting. It's her life, she is free. No, when not on my terrace, she'll spend the time on the neighbor's terrace on the roof The reason is that something scared her to death and now she's afraid of the dark too ) At least, that's what's the neighbor told and yes, after dark she won't show up anymore but will stay at the neighbor's terrace (after her 2nd dinner)... So hunting has become rather occasional and only in the daytime. ... º ºYou keep her company now, immobilized as you are, but when on two legs again, you will probably forget her, as happened before, busy with your mountain climbing or other activities. I am not criticizing it in any sense, it's not an attempt on my side to say that you should domesticate her or sth It is good as it is, you both like it, only the colar doesn't go in here well, imho. I thought that belling her you may make her really miserable. It's a bit like you began to bell wild animals at large. ºWhen you spent less time with her, after the plaster is removed from the foot, she will hopefully stop bringing mice to your terrace Cats with collars are more or less the rule, if one doesn't want the cat to be accidentally shot by hunters or to be caught... When the gate is open, every hunter has the right to enter and to shoot game and occasionally that happens - something you didn't know The collar is a sign that in some way, the cat is "owned". With or without bell, it is the "better" alternative. For the lizards it is too late: when the cat was bringing them they could be saved, when they still were alive. Since (thanks to you? that behavior changed, the lizards aren't brought anymore and are left to die in the garden; their number is decimated... º ºIf, however, you decided to buy her the collar after all, make sure it is rubber or the part of it is rubber - it has to go off easily if she catches it on a branch or some other obstacle. In the US they probably have only "good" ones but where I live and where Jan lives it may happen otherwise Only plastic here - made in Spain Love, Jan º ºLove to All, ºLiliana º(following with interest all the discussions here and gratefull for your warm, uplifting and amusing company º º º º º º º º º// º ºAll paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. º ºTo from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at º www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar º on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription º between digest and normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Liliana Pechal wrote: > > > On 12/5/00 at 1:59 PM Gloria Lee wrote: > > Dear jb, > > > > Jan, I have this info on the authority of none other than Desmond Morris, of Naked Ape fame. The cat has adopted you and therefore regards you as her mother. This is why the mice are brought home to you, to show you her skills at hunting. Cats will play with their prey as a completely separate instinct from hunger or the need to kill them. It may be possible that belling the cat with a bell or some noisemaker on a collar, will reduce her ability to capture the mice. She is likely to feel highly offended by your lack of appreciation for her gifts. > > > > Love, Glo > > > > Oops - I didn't know that cats behave that way, especially that she would feel offended when refusing the gift.. Having diverted her attention often with food is probably right after all... The cat is quite alone and cats usually are kept outside. Being confined to the house, sitting on the terrace probably has been interpreted as company by her... And that will change when on two feet again. A collar with a bell is a great tip, I'll buy one as soon as the foot allows going again. > > > > Love, > > Jan > > Dear Glo and Jan, > > Forgive me for poking my nose here with my two cents but I know the cat and she is dear to my heart. So I would like to add some info to the picture and de-lurk at for a brief moment > > The cat at stake , is not a domestic cat. And I do not think you intend to domesticate her, do you Jan? You do not let her into the house. She lives at large and she spends her time hunting. It's her life, she is free. > > You keep her company now, immobilized as you are, but when on two legs again, you will probably forget her, as happened before, busy with your mountain climbing or other activities. I am not criticizing it in any sense, it's not an attempt on my side to say that you should domesticate her or sth It is good as it is, you both like it, only the colar doesn't go in here well, imho. I thought that belling her you may make her really miserable. It's a bit like you began to bell wild animals at large. > When you spent less time with her, after the plaster is removed from the foot, she will hopefully stop bringing mice to your terrace > > If, however, you decided to buy her the collar after all, make sure it is rubber or the part of it is rubber - it has to go off easily if she catches it on a branch or some other obstacle. In the US they probably have only "good" ones but where I live and where Jan lives it may happen otherwise > > Love to All, > Liliana > (following with interest all the discussions here and gratefull for your warm, uplifting and amusing company Hi Jan and All, I'm going to piggyback on Liliana to say that I too have been following your adventures, Jan. You really need satellite tv at this time, Jan. You can spend all day changing channels and realizing there's nothing on! Personally I like Cindy Margolis, basketball, the news, Cindy Margolis, and a good special when it's on. I've tried watching the specials when they weren't on, but they're not there! Did I mention Cindy Margolis? My cat brings leaves in the house and attacks them. He tears them apart. Their veins are all over the place. It's quite a mess. Maybe I should put a bell around him so the leaves will be warned. Then they can blow up and away, far away. Love, Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 On 12/6/00 at 9:29 AM umbada wrote: [...] ºHi Jan and All, º ºI'm going to piggyback on Liliana to say that I too have been following ºyour adventures, Jan. You really need satellite tv at this time, Jan. ºYou can spend all day changing channels and realizing there's nothing ºon! Personally I like Cindy Margolis, basketball, the news, Cindy ºMargolis, and a good special when it's on. I've tried watching the ºspecials when they weren't on, but they're not there! Did I mention ºCindy Margolis? With the 20 feet dish in the garden, I can't complain about TV: channels in abundance - but it has become next to impossible to identify with whatever character in a movie, which is the reason mainly documentaries are watched, but are watched faster than they are made Which only leaves Internet radio to enjoy; music even has been proved to be one's first love in manifested life And connectivity has been improved to the extent that even here, Internet radio works fairly well, contrary to audio-visual communication programs like net meeting. º ºMy cat brings leaves in the house and attacks them. He tears them apart. ºTheir veins are all over the place. It's quite a mess. Maybe I should ºput a bell around him so the leaves will be warned. Then they can blow ºup and away, far away. º ºLove, ºJerry Leaves are a bit insensitive to sound, especially when dead - may I suggest to put a fan around the cat? Love, Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2000 Report Share Posted December 6, 2000 Hi Guys, jb wrote: > > > Leaves are a bit insensitive to sound, especially when dead - may I suggest to put a fan around the cat? > > Love, > Jan > I dunno, Jan. Seems like Jerry IS a fan. (of his cat...) I've been hoping Mary Bianco would tell about her cats and birds, but she hasn't, so I will. They get along great, but during the courting period, when Mary first started really letting the birds introduce themselves to the cats, I think the birds should have been belled. One of them loved to land on the cat's heads and nibble on their ears. Fun to watch!!! Love, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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