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On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 15:49:06 Mark Otter wrote:

>Amanda beat me to the punch with the suggestion (but I hid my true

>intent behind frivolous silliness better than she did...)

 

I liked yours better, to tell you the truth. :)

 

Did you decide on what breakthrough to vote for on the poll ?

 

I thought it was possible to clone humans already.

>oh maybe she

>didn't intend to be deceitful. how dull.

 

Yeah, my IQ is too low to allow me to be deceitful.

>Love, Mark

>ps hi mumble cat. how are you?

 

I'm well. :)

 

Still no winter depression in sight and yet, the winter sleepiness is all here.

 

And I'm looking at a post mortem examination on Friday. The only fringe benefit

of working at Dept. of Pathol. Me ghoul. You food.

 

How are you ?

 

Are you saving up for a boat ? :)

 

 

A.

 

 

 

 

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Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:31 PM

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:15:33 Gloria Lee wrote:

>Of possible interest to some here, Time magazine has an article on spiritual

>innovators.

>Byron Katie and the guy who set up Beliefnet.com are two of them. You can

>also make your own nominations.

 

Can we nominate Jerry for setting up NDS and Harsha for setting up HSatsangh

? :)

 

A.

 

 

:):) Sure you can...if you can do it in 50 words or less.

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Hi Amanda,

mumble cat wrote:

Did you decide on what breakthrough to vote for on the poll ?

I thought it was possible to clone humans already.

I don't think that cloning humans or making the average age of death exceed

100 are breakthroughs. I do think that curing cancer might be one,

but on the other hand, what will replace it as a means of death?

I think a real breakthrough would be for humans to learn to accept death

as part of life, and to learn to let go gracefully. Whether that happens

through a waking up to our true identities (wow that would be great!),

or just through an acknowledgement that if we want children, we need to

get out of the way for them - either way, death needs to come out of the

closet just as birth did a generation or so ago. (at least it stuck its

foot out of the closet - I'm wondering if society is trying to slam the

door closed again...) So, I'm crazy, but I think buying Mark a boat would

be more helpful than some of the choices.

>oh maybe she

>didn't intend to be deceitful. how dull.

Yeah, my IQ is too low to allow me to be deceitful.

What a copout!!!! hey, I can train you if you want... come to the

dark side... (can you hear me breathing like Darth Vader? When is

technology gonna catch up to my twisted sense of humor?)

>Love, Mark

>ps hi mumble cat. how are you?

I'm well. :)

Still no winter depression in sight and yet, the winter sleepiness

is all here.

I'm glad. I understand that bright lights (especially lots of those

plant grow lights that come reasonably close to mimicking the sun's spectrum)

can help dispell SAD. I think it's true. Alternatively, visiting

Jan might help. I hear he has a new recipe involving chocolate and

mice (or was it moles? no, that's Mexican food.. maybe it was mousse, no

I'm pretty sure it's mice. one of those m words.. men? hmmmm.....

It's too hot in that kitchen for me.

And I'm looking at a post mortem examination on Friday. The only

fringe benefit of working at Dept. of Pathol. Me ghoul. You food.

How are you ?

Well, I was fine until you suggested that I'm food (maybe it's too hot

in your kitchen too). Now I'm a quivering mass of fear and loathing.

(although even that's kinda fun once you let go and decide to enjoy it...)

Are you saving up for a boat ? :)

No, I've never learned how to save money. Instead, I've been begging

most vociferously, annoying the neighbors, etc for one. (mainly on NDS.)

I'm not sure how it all got started. I think Mary is to blame, but

then I think that of most things...

oops, gotta go duck. (no, actually she has accepted responsibility for

all earthly disasters and evils. I think it makes her feel powerful.

no, not even that's true. She's an enlightened being and I'm a craven coward.

yeah, that's it... that's right...) that's the ticket...

Love, Mark

ps how am I? I'm manic, can you tell?

A.

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mark.otter writes:

>I'm glad. I understand that bright lights (especially lots of those

>plant grow lights that come reasonably close to mimicking the sun's

>spectrum) can help dispell SAD.

 

Yep. SAD is much more common than is appreciated (although I myself

don't have a full-blown version of it, I can find myself getting squirrely

if the days are real short and/or it is consistently cloudy out). There is

at least one company that makes lights specifically to combat this problem.

If anyone is interested, I have a brochure at my office and would be glad to

get the info for you.

 

Namaste-

 

Mike

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Hey Gloria,

 

I had forgotten where I knew the name Byron Katie from, but checking out

the site reminded me. One of the fellows who is doing the Grof

Transpersonal Training has also trained (he's completed the training)

for The Work. He raved about it in August. He was very excited to be

not only doing the work but facilitating it. It looks pretty useful.

What do you think?

 

Love, Mark

 

Gloria Lee wrote:

>

> Of possible interest to some here, Time magazine has an article on

> spiritual

> innovators.

> Byron Katie and the guy who set up Beliefnet.com are two of them. You

> can

> also make your own nominations. Innovators in other fields are also

> quite

> interesting.

>

> www.time.com/innovators

>

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