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The following is a real life story.

And somehow, kind of miraculous.

 

In the land of Fistomania, Mr. Fistowski was, at his old age,

suffering terribly of pains in his left forearm and hand. He's had

that pain all his life, but now was becoming unbearable.

It was so, that in his country, there was a traditional-value which

was based on the First-Commandament of their beloved Scripture, and

that was: "Thou shall not open your left fist !" And the preachers

and everybodyelse were explaining that if it was opened, then this

inplanted Chip would oxidize and with it the person would at least go

mad, or else die.

And Mr. Fistowski did his best, as a good citizen and also out of

fear of dying, to keep his fist tightly closed.

 

But now, due to the pain, he started to talk to other people about it.

One should add that the pain was not only in the arm,.. the

Commandament also caused him to be carefull when with others. It

seemed to him, many times that others were giving him strange looks

and sneering while they kept staring at his fist. He was afraid he

was doing something wrong in the way he was holding it closed. He had

at times thoughts as to how he -should have held his fist in certain

situations and that generated for him feelings of guilt, of regret

and of fear as to what others might think of his behaviour. When

thinking about it, the rest of his body would shiver and his head

would twitch. He was very unhappy.

Nobody could help him. So he went to classes on Fistology. He studied

hard, but the pain intensified, and his hand and forearm turned dark

blue by now...

 

Meanwhile, in a parallel universe, in the land of Identomania, Mr.

Idensen went thru a lot of misfortunes, .. death of loved ones, loss

of friends.. and other quite painful situations. The thoughts of

these uncomfortable past events, would suddenly pass thru his

mind, and it was as if they would Hit a Wall,

upon which a contraction of the body and twitches of head would,

instantaneously errupt. Perhaps because of his 'giving-up' on doing

something about his unhappy state, since he could see that the others

whether they were interested or not, could not really help him. And

yet there was a cry of 'No!.. away!'- resistance to what was and how

he thought (and others thought) it should be. So he was alone. And

his twitches were probably a form of comforting solution, of a kind

of company of 'me and myself/my body' and there was a kind of

pleasure associated with that self-pitying activity.

 

Being an age of cyber space communication, somehow Mr. Fistowski

bumped into Mr Idensen.. it was at a Inter-Universes Discussion forum

list, called www.HeadTwitchers.org. It had also the visual

communication...

They started to chat and agreed that they _Had to_ investigate into

the pain, even if it would result in their death...

 

So says Mr. Idensen to Mr. Fistowski..: My dear fellow, with all

respect,.. But: a 'chip in your hand on which your life depends..?!..

HA !..That is the most Ridiculous thing I've ever heard..!.. Open up

your fist !..', upon which, of course, Mr. Fistowski froze with fear

and had all kinds of reasonable justifications for maintaining that,

that was not a good idea, nor does he Know How To do it... open it,..

he's been like that all his life and he insisted on, that this was an

impossibility.

 

Since Mr. Idensen had a bit of insight into the mind he

suggested: 'Listen now, something easier: instead of trying to open

your hand, just stop putting your energy in doing what you have

always been doing..keeping it closed..'..

 

There were slight movements of his fingers at first,.. he was

sweating profusely,.. and it was obvious that

Mr. Fistowsky's hand was opening by itself..

...a great sense of relief overcame him and he was almost in tears,..

and he looked in his slowly opening hand...

there was -nothing there !..

He was baffled and overjoyed.

 

After calming down a bit, he happened to notice

Mr. Idensen's still twiching head, and he was overcome with

compassion, and says to him ' .. aah.. listen,..That Wall that you

speak of, that is being hit when thoughts come along,.. it sounds to

me very weird !,.. What is it ?'..

Mr. Idensen admitted to not knowing ..: 'but it just definetely

feels! that way, and also that my body is hit' he replied.

'But why don't you look again, closer ?' said Mr. Fistowski..

 

Mr. Idensen was determined to find out.. and looked closer..

he saw that the Wall, was a constructed-fiction also called the 'I'

to be protected at any cost, and that it was just like the hitting

thoughts/memories, .. and no different, except that it was an expert

at Separation and Resistance, having practiced it for so long.. and

yet a conventional creation, which he, like others, did his best to

uphold and live according to.

He saw that.. and

the same moment, the head-twitching simply stopped !.. He was

overjoyed..

and although the smashing-'rocks' were still flying around at times,

there was nothing for them to hit...

His body was gratefull.

 

And so, Mr. Fistowski changed his name to Fistfree-ji, and Mr.

Idensen became Mr. Wallslessen. And they moved to another univers.

They are still occasionally hit/bit by the old habit, but it subsides

even before it can come to fruitition and into Fistosomatic and

Iwallosomatic symptoms & damages.

 

And they became great friends.

As amatter of fact, the two were not two, but one.

It was, it is, JB.

And of course, all that did not happen on and Inter-Universal chat-

net.

It happened while JB was sitting on his apartment's toilet seat.

And, strangely enough, he is not aware of the length, of the

sitting's time-period.

He must've been, temporarily, abducted..

 

jb.

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This had been posted in another group. When I read it

I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

is. Sometimes it is hard not to get "immersed."

When the moment is there and things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

take it back because I realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

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This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer who fought the terrorists during the siege of the Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu'slecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes! There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked. They were fighting in there for three days, complete carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way that they would always be up higher. They would shoot from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja told me this. They had all these grenades and they would throw the grenades and the grenades would create so much smoke that if you were down looking up you couldn’t see anything.Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police officers and you are in this cloud of smoke and up above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall of bullets coming at them.This devotee police officer, with two other police officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers. He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutelyhopeless state.”When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed, riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him, which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And because they were shooting at him the pillar protectedhim.He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!”

 

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Dear Rhadhe,

 

After similar, but not such severe circumstances, I came to the conclusion that the ordinary mind cannot understand the ways of the Higher or Divine Wisdom which is always doing everything possible for our spiritual development, but we don't realise it at the time- yet, sooner or later it dawns on us, a long time afterwards. Even if we knew the reason it would only satisfy the mind. Faith, like love, conquers all things.Bhagavan said somewhere that 'all suffering is good- it leads to God Realisation'. I think through suffering we develop courage, equanimity and other virtues, leading to compassion for others. Mirabai used to pray for tribulation, because she said it brought her closer to Thou.

 

I like the story about Narahimsa at the end. The LIon-Man has always intrigued me.

 

Anyway I am glad to read that you are feeling somewhat better now.

 

All Love,

 

In His Ultimate Grace,

 

Alan --- On Tue, 7/4/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote:

Radhe <shaantih FW: A true story Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 11:42 PM

 

 

 

This had been posted in another group. When I read it

I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

is. Sometimes it is hard not to get "immersed."

When the moment is there and things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

take it back because I realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

 

This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer who fought the terrorists during the siege of the Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu'slecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes! There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked. They were fighting in there for three days, complete carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way that they would always be up higher. They would shoot from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja told me this. They had all these grenades and they would throw the grenades and the grenades would create so much smoke that if you were down looking up you couldn’t see anything.Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police officers and you are in this cloud

of smoke and up above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall of bullets coming at them.This devotee police officer, with two other police officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers. He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying

intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutelyhopeless state.â€When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed, riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him, which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And because they were shooting at him the pillar protectedhim.He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

 

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Dear Radhe ,

 

A beautiful story .. I can very well undestand the intensity of the cervical pain ..having undergone two cervical spine surgery including a Titanium collar implant ( have 4 screws in the hip joint as well .. a very metallic person indeed ! ) .. You ought not to be using the computer atleast for a while .. as it is bound to increase the pain.. Am sure that even when "immersed " with your present state .. your soul must be soaring high ..Even a simple mantra like Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya .. will do wonders !

Wish you speedy recovery ..

 

In his JOY

 

ramesh

--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote:

Radhe <shaantih FW: A true story Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 4:12 AM

 

 

 

This had been posted in another group. When I read it

I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

is. Sometimes it is hard not to get "immersed."

When the moment is there and things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

take it back because I realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

 

This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer who fought the terrorists during the siege of the Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu'slecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes! There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked. They were fighting in there for three days, complete carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way that they would always be up higher. They would shoot from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja told me this. They had all these grenades and they would throw the grenades and the grenades would create so much smoke that if you were down looking up you couldn’t see anything.Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police officers and you are in this cloud

of smoke and up above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall of bullets coming at them.This devotee police officer, with two other police officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers. He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying

intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutelyhopeless state.â€When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed, riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him, which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And because they were shooting at him the pillar protectedhim.He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

 

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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:07 PM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

Alan Jacobs wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rhadhe,

 

After similar, but not such severe circumstances, I came to the conclusion that the ordinary mind cannot understand the ways of the Higher or Divine Wisdom which is always doing everything possible for our spiritual development, but we don't realise it at the time- yet, sooner or later it dawns on us, a long time afterwards. Even if we knew the reason it would only satisfy the mind. Faith, like love, conquers all things.Bhagavan said somewhere that 'all suffering is good- it leads to God Realisation'. I think through suffering we develop courage, equanimity and other virtues, leading to compassion for others. Mirabai used to pray for tribulation, because she said it brought her closer to Thou.

 

I like the story about Narahimsa at the end. The LIon-Man has always intrigued me.

 

Anyway I am glad to read that you are feeling somewhat better now.

 

All Love,

 

In His Ultimate Grace,

 

Alan

faith and knowledge

 

 

real faith

is what remains

when all beliefs

are lost.

 

substitutes for knowing,

like a scaffolding

which is dismounted

once the job is done;

so are beliefs abandoned

when experience

dawns.

 

but

 

in the presence

of the real

no faith

nor faithful

remain.

 

true knowing

and being

is ever

one.

 

 

 

@}->'->,--

yosy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 7/4/09, Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> FW: A true story Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 11:42 PM

 

 

 

This had been posted in another group. When I read it

I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

is. Sometimes it is hard not to get "immersed."

When the moment is there and things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

take it back because I realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

 

This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer who fought the terrorists during the siege of the Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu'slecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes! There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked. They were fighting in there for three days, complete carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way that they would always be up higher. They would shoot from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja told me this. They had all these grenades and they would throw the grenades and the grenades would create so much smoke that if you were down looking up you couldn’t see anything.Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police officers and you are in this cloud of smoke and up above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall of bullets coming at them.This devotee police officer, with two other police officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers. He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutelyhopeless state.â€When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed, riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him, which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And because they were shooting at him the pillar protectedhim.He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

 

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Alan Jacobs wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rhadhe,

 

After similar, but not such severe circumstances, I came

to the conclusion that the ordinary mind cannot understand the ways of 

the Higher or Divine Wisdom which is always doing everything

possible for our spiritual development, but we don't realise it at the

time- yet, sooner or later it dawns on us, a long time afterwards. Even

if we knew the reason it would only satisfy the mind. Faith, like love,

conquers all things.Bhagavan said somewhere that 'all suffering is

good- it leads to God Realisation'. I think through suffering we

develop courage, equanimity and other virtues, leading to compassion

for others. Mirabai used to pray for tribulation, because she said it

brought her closer to Thou.

 

 I like the story about Narahimsa at the end. The LIon-Man

has always intrigued me.

 

Anyway I am glad to read that you are feeling

somewhat better now.

 

All Love,

 

In His Ultimate Grace,

 

Alan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

faith

and knowledge

 

 

real

faith

is

what remains

when

all beliefs

are

lost.

 

substitutes

for knowing,

like

a scaffolding

which

is dismounted

once

the job is done;

so

are beliefs abandoned

when

experience

dawns.

 

but

 

in

the presence

of

the real

no

faith

nor

faithful

remain.

 

true

knowing

and

being

is ever

one.

 

 

 

@}->'->,--

yosy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 7/4/09, Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net>

wrote:

 

 

Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net>

FW: A true story

 

Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 11:42 PM

 

 

 

 

This had been posted in

another group.  When I read it

I was moved by it and

reminded just how easy my life

is.  Sometimes it is hard

not to get "immersed."  

When the moment is there and

things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help

comes before you can think

about surrender to His

will;  then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant

such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself

a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain

from a herniated cervical

disc.  I found myself asking

Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium

again and then I had to

take it back because I

realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason

He had for this pain

for me.  Now I am doing much

better but I realize

that it is easy to say that

I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it

comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

------------ ---------

--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

 

This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer

who fought the terrorists during the siege of the

Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu's

lecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:

 

Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story

the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes!

There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked.

They were fighting in there for three days, complete

carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way

that they would always be up higher. They would shoot

from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja

told me this. They had all these grenades and they would

throw the grenades and the grenades would create so

much smoke that if you were down looking up you

couldn’t see anything.

 

Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police

officers and you are in this cloud of smoke and up

above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists

shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our

devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these

people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist

were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete

cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of

their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and

this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall

of bullets coming at them.

 

This devotee police officer, with two other police

officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually

was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he

couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had

on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers.

He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying

intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely

helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutely

hopeless state.â€

 

When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend

to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed,

riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him,

which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And

because they were shooting at him the pillar protected

him.

 

He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the

pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

 

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Dear Alanji:

 

Thank you for sharing your insights. While the ordinary mind may not

be able to understand the Divine Ways, it is helpful if the ordinary mind realizes

it is ordinary and trusts the ways of the Higher or Divine Wisdom. That is

where Surrender comes in. And you are so right in saying that it may be

a long time before the "reason" may become clear...sometimes years, perhaps a lifetime. Sometimes things happen just to push you in a certain

direction you would not otherwise go. I often see people saying that this

or that thing which happens is someone's bad karma. For people to think that all "bad"

things which happen is a result of someone's bad karma is so judgmental

and foolhardy. It is not for us to attempt to divinate the reasons behind

Divine Wisdom.

 

And Mirabai is one of my favorite saints. I have learned two of her bhajans so far

and hope to add more in the future. She did not always ask for tribulation, though...

 

here is one of my personal favorites...

 

Guide this little boat over the waters, what can I give you for fare? Our mutable world holds nothing but grief, bear me away from it. Eight bonds of karma have gripped me, the whole of creation swirls through eight million wombs, through eight million birth-forms we flicker. Mira cries. Dark One take this little boat to the far shore, put an end to coming and going.

 

In His Service and throwing the oars into the water,

 

Radhe

 

 

 

 

-

Alan Jacobs

Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:13 AM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rhadhe,

 

After similar, but not such severe circumstances, I came to the conclusion that the ordinary mind cannot understand the ways of the Higher or Divine Wisdom which is always doing everything possible for our spiritual development, but we don't realise it at the time- yet, sooner or later it dawns on us, a long time afterwards. Even if we knew the reason it would only satisfy the mind. Faith, like love, conquers all things.Bhagavan said somewhere that 'all suffering is good- it leads to God Realisation'. I think through suffering we develop courage, equanimity and other virtues, leading to compassion for others. Mirabai used to pray for tribulation, because she said it brought her closer to Thou.

 

I like the story about Narahimsa at the end. The LIon-Man has always intrigued me.

 

Anyway I am glad to read that you are feeling somewhat better now.

 

All Love,

 

In His Ultimate Grace,

 

Alan --- On Tue, 7/4/09, Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> FW: A true story Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 11:42 PM

 

 

 

This had been posted in another group. When I read it

I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

is. Sometimes it is hard not to get "immersed."

When the moment is there and things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

take it back because I realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

 

This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer who fought the terrorists during the siege of the Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu'slecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes! There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked. They were fighting in there for three days, complete carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way that they would always be up higher. They would shoot from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja told me this. They had all these grenades and they would throw the grenades and the grenades would create so much smoke that if you were down looking up you couldn’t see anything.Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police officers and you are in this cloud of smoke and up above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall of bullets coming at them.This devotee police officer, with two other police officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers. He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutelyhopeless state.â€When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed, riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him, which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And because they were shooting at him the pillar protectedhim.He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

 

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Dear Ramesh garu :-)

 

You are indeed a metallic man, with a soft heart. I just want

to tell you what a pleasure it is to have you on this list. Most

of us who post have been here for years, and it is so nice that

you joined the family, and Dr. Raju also. You both bring some

new insights to the group and more bhakti is always welcome.

 

Do not worry about my use of the computer...that problem was

a few weeks ago...now I am much better and it is OK to use it

now. I have to smile at the perfection of your suggestion to chant

simple mantras...my whole day is in and out of chanting...I sing

to Him all day long really. When I sing I soar!!!

He must get tired of hearing me :-)

 

Love to you, Titanium man;-)

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

ramesh chivukula

Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:20 AM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Radhe ,

 

A beautiful story .. I can very well undestand the intensity of the cervical pain ..having undergone two cervical spine surgery including a Titanium collar implant ( have 4 screws in the hip joint as well .. a very metallic person indeed ! ) .. You ought not to be using the computer atleast for a while .. as it is bound to increase the pain.. Am sure that even when "immersed " with your present state .. your soul must be soaring high ..Even a simple mantra like Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya .. will do wonders !

Wish you speedy recovery ..

 

In his JOY

 

ramesh

--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> FW: A true story Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 4:12 AM

 

 

 

This had been posted in another group. When I read it

I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

is. Sometimes it is hard not to get "immersed."

When the moment is there and things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

take it back because I realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

 

This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer who fought the terrorists during the siege of the Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu'slecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes! There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked. They were fighting in there for three days, complete carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way that they would always be up higher. They would shoot from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja told me this. They had all these grenades and they would throw the grenades and the grenades would create so much smoke that if you were down looking up you couldn’t see anything.Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police officers and you are in this cloud of smoke and up above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall of bullets coming at them.This devotee police officer, with two other police officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers. He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutelyhopeless state.â€When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed, riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him, which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And because they were shooting at him the pillar protectedhim.He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

 

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What he said :-)@<'-> joycie- Michael Bindel Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:41 PMRe: FW: A true story GREAT GREAT GREAT tksmichaelfaith and knowledgereal faithis what remainswhen all beliefsare lost.substitutes for knowing, like a scaffoldingwhich is dismountedonce the job is done;so are beliefs abandonedwhen experiencedawns.butin the presenceof the realno faithnor faithfulremain.true knowing and being is ever one.@}->'->,--yosy

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My dear Radhe,

 

How true,

 

Thank you for all your comments- to which I agree heartily.

 

All love,

 

In His Grace,

 

Alan --- On Fri, 10/4/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote:

Radhe <shaantihRe: FW: A true story Date: Friday, 10 April, 2009, 1:31 AM

 

 

 Dear Alanji:

 

Thank you for sharing your insights. While the ordinary mind may not

be able to understand the Divine Ways, it is helpful if the ordinary mind realizes

it is ordinary and trusts the ways of the Higher or Divine Wisdom. That is

where Surrender comes in. And you are so right in saying that it may be

a long time before the "reason" may become clear...sometimes years, perhaps a lifetime. Sometimes things happen just to push you in a certain

direction you would not otherwise go. I often see people saying that this

or that thing which happens is someone's bad karma. For people to think that all "bad"

things which happen is a result of someone's bad karma is so judgmental

and foolhardy. It is not for us to attempt to divinate the reasons behind

Divine Wisdom.

 

And Mirabai is one of my favorite saints. I have learned two of her bhajans so far

and hope to add more in the future. She did not always ask for tribulation, though...

 

here is one of my personal favorites...

 

Guide this little boat over the waters, what can I give you for fare? Our mutable world holds nothing but grief, bear me away from it. Eight bonds of karma have gripped me, the whole of creation swirls through eight million wombs, through eight million birth-forms we flicker. Mira cries. Dark One take this little boat to the far shore, put an end to coming and going.

 

In His Service and throwing the oars into the water,

 

Radhe

 

 

 

 

-

Alan Jacobs

 

Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:13 AM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rhadhe,

 

After similar, but not such severe circumstances, I came to the conclusion that the ordinary mind cannot understand the ways of the Higher or Divine Wisdom which is always doing everything possible for our spiritual development, but we don't realise it at the time- yet, sooner or later it dawns on us, a long time afterwards. Even if we knew the reason it would only satisfy the mind. Faith, like love, conquers all things.Bhagavan said somewhere that 'all suffering is good- it leads to God Realisation' . I think through suffering we develop courage, equanimity and other virtues, leading to compassion for others. Mirabai used to pray for tribulation, because she said it brought her closer to Thou.

 

I like the story about Narahimsa at the end. The LIon-Man has always intrigued me.

 

Anyway I am glad to read that you are feeling somewhat better now.

 

All Love,

 

In His Ultimate Grace,

 

Alan --- On Tue, 7/4/09, Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> FW: A true storyTuesday, 7 April, 2009, 11:42 PM

 

 

 

This had been posted in another group. When I read it

I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

is. Sometimes it is hard not to get "immersed."

When the moment is there and things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

take it back because I realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

 

This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer who fought the terrorists during the siege of the Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu'slecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes! There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked. They were fighting in there for three days, complete carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way that they would always be up higher. They would shoot from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja told me this. They had all these grenades and they would throw the grenades and the grenades would create so much smoke that if you were down looking up you couldn’t see anything.Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police officers and you are in this cloud

of smoke and up above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall of bullets coming at them.This devotee police officer, with two other police officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers. He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying

intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutelyhopeless state.â€When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed, riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him, which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And because they were shooting at him the pillar protectedhim.He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

 

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Dear Radhe

Namaste

 

please help an ignorant one

 

what is a metallic titanic man?

 

in Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

michael

 

 

 

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Radhe

Friday, April 10, 2009 2:32 AM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

 Dear Ramesh garu :-)

 

You are indeed a metallic man, with a soft heart. I just want

to tell you what a pleasure it is to have you on this list. Most

of us who post have been here for years, and it is so nice that

you joined the family, and Dr. Raju also. You both bring some

new insights to the group and more bhakti is always welcome.

 

Do not worry about my use of the computer...that problem was

a few weeks ago...now I am much better and it is OK to use it

now. I have to smile at the perfection of your suggestion to chant

simple mantras...my whole day is in and out of chanting...I sing

to Him all day long really. When I sing I soar!!!

He must get tired of hearing me :-)

 

Love to you, Titanium man;-)

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

ramesh chivukula

Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:20 AM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Radhe ,

 

A beautiful story .. I can very well undestand the intensity of the cervical pain ..having undergone two cervical spine surgery including a Titanium collar implant ( have 4 screws in the hip joint as well .. a very metallic person indeed ! ) .. You ought not to be using the computer atleast for a while .. as it is bound to increase the pain.. Am sure that even when "immersed " with your present state .. your soul must be soaring high ..Even a simple mantra like Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya .. will do wonders !

Wish you speedy recovery ..

 

In his JOY

 

ramesh

--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> FW: A true story Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 4:12 AM

 

 

 

This had been posted in another group. When I read it

I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

is. Sometimes it is hard not to get "immersed."

When the moment is there and things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

take it back because I realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

 

This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer who fought the terrorists during the siege of the Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu'slecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes! There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked. They were fighting in there for three days, complete carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way that they would always be up higher. They would shoot from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja told me this. They had all these grenades and they would throw the grenades and the grenades would create so much smoke that if you were down looking up you couldn’t see anything.Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police officers and you are in this cloud of smoke and up above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall of bullets coming at them.This devotee police officer, with two other police officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers. He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutelyhopeless state.â€When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed, riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him, which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And because they were shooting at him the pillar protectedhim.He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

 

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Dear Radhe

again

 

"throwing the oars in the water"

 

w o n d e r f u l

 

 

"bad karma"

 

in michaels personal experience in this life

 

all catastrophes and all terrible happenings have proved afterwards to be real blessing

so the ways of GD are of course unknown to us

independent of our real IQ even if this is one of the highest possible

 

so throwing everything in the water is that what this person excepted finally and by doing this thru Grace blossoms....

 

in ITS Grace

 

michael

 

 

 

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Radhe

Friday, April 10, 2009 2:31 AM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

 Dear Alanji:

 

Thank you for sharing your insights. While the ordinary mind may not

be able to understand the Divine Ways, it is helpful if the ordinary mind realizes

it is ordinary and trusts the ways of the Higher or Divine Wisdom. That is

where Surrender comes in. And you are so right in saying that it may be

a long time before the "reason" may become clear...sometimes years, perhaps a lifetime. Sometimes things happen just to push you in a certain

direction you would not otherwise go. I often see people saying that this

or that thing which happens is someone's bad karma. For people to think that all "bad"

things which happen is a result of someone's bad karma is so judgmental

and foolhardy. It is not for us to attempt to divinate the reasons behind

Divine Wisdom.

 

And Mirabai is one of my favorite saints. I have learned two of her bhajans so far

and hope to add more in the future. She did not always ask for tribulation, though...

 

here is one of my personal favorites...

 

Guide this little boat over the waters, what can I give you for fare? Our mutable world holds nothing but grief, bear me away from it. Eight bonds of karma have gripped me, the whole of creation swirls through eight million wombs, through eight million birth-forms we flicker. Mira cries. Dark One take this little boat to the far shore, put an end to coming and going.

 

In His Service and throwing the oars into the water,

 

Radhe

 

 

 

 

-

Alan Jacobs

Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:13 AM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rhadhe,

 

After similar, but not such severe circumstances, I came to the conclusion that the ordinary mind cannot understand the ways of the Higher or Divine Wisdom which is always doing everything possible for our spiritual development, but we don't realise it at the time- yet, sooner or later it dawns on us, a long time afterwards. Even if we knew the reason it would only satisfy the mind. Faith, like love, conquers all things.Bhagavan said somewhere that 'all suffering is good- it leads to God Realisation'. I think through suffering we develop courage, equanimity and other virtues, leading to compassion for others. Mirabai used to pray for tribulation, because she said it brought her closer to Thou.

 

I like the story about Narahimsa at the end. The LIon-Man has always intrigued me.

 

Anyway I am glad to read that you are feeling somewhat better now.

 

All Love,

 

In His Ultimate Grace,

 

Alan --- On Tue, 7/4/09, Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> FW: A true story Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 11:42 PM

 

 

 

This had been posted in another group. When I read it

I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

is. Sometimes it is hard not to get "immersed."

When the moment is there and things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

take it back because I realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

 

This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer who fought the terrorists during the siege of the Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu'slecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes! There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked. They were fighting in there for three days, complete carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way that they would always be up higher. They would shoot from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja told me this. They had all these grenades and they would throw the grenades and the grenades would create so much smoke that if you were down looking up you couldn’t see anything.Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police officers and you are in this cloud of smoke and up above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall of bullets coming at them.This devotee police officer, with two other police officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers. He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutelyhopeless state.â€When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed, riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him, which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And because they were shooting at him the pillar protectedhim.He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

 

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Dear Radheji,

 

Nice to note that you are better now...It was by sheer accident that I bumped into Prof VK and he had advised me to join this group ..Ever since it has been a kind of a pleasant sojourn .. coupled with fact that there is a lean period at office and hence the possibility to read and write many mails..Otherwise ofcourse have to contend with silent prayers/ constant remambrance.. always a JOY to share with those who understand ..always learning from others' experiences and view points..It is great to note that you sing.. . My wife is trained carnatic vocalist , she can sing very soulful divine songs.. but she is not YET into the path or may be am mistaken , one never knows..

 

Mirabai is one of my favourites too ..She was the one who said that there is only ONE MAN in the whole universe and that is LORD KRISHNA and all the rest are women only ...ALL Beings have to bow to HIM...What a lovely thought !!!

 

HE never gets TIRED at all .. even bathroom singers like me are DEAR to HIM !

 

In HIS LOVE and JOY

 

ramesh

--- On Fri, 4/10/09, Radhe <shaantih wrote:

Radhe <shaantihRe: FW: A true story Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 6:02 AM

 

 

 Dear Ramesh garu :-)

 

You are indeed a metallic man, with a soft heart. I just want

to tell you what a pleasure it is to have you on this list. Most

of us who post have been here for years, and it is so nice that

you joined the family, and Dr. Raju also. You both bring some

new insights to the group and more bhakti is always welcome.

 

Do not worry about my use of the computer...that problem was

a few weeks ago...now I am much better and it is OK to use it

now. I have to smile at the perfection of your suggestion to chant

simple mantras...my whole day is in and out of chanting...I sing

to Him all day long really. When I sing I soar!!!

He must get tired of hearing me :-)

 

Love to you, Titanium man;-)

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

ramesh chivukula

 

Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:20 AM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Radhe ,

 

A beautiful story .. I can very well undestand the intensity of the cervical pain ..having undergone two cervical spine surgery including a Titanium collar implant ( have 4 screws in the hip joint as well .. a very metallic person indeed ! ) .. You ought not to be using the computer atleast for a while .. as it is bound to increase the pain.. Am sure that even when "immersed " with your present state .. your soul must be soaring high ..Even a simple mantra like Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya .. will do wonders !

Wish you speedy recovery ..

 

In his JOY

 

ramesh

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Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> FW: A true storyWednesday, April 8, 2009, 4:12 AM

 

 

 

This had been posted in another group. When I read it

I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

is. Sometimes it is hard not to get "immersed."

When the moment is there and things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

take it back because I realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

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This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer who fought the terrorists during the siege of the Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu'slecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes! There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked. They were fighting in there for three days, complete carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way that they would always be up higher. They would shoot from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja told me this. They had all these grenades and they would throw the grenades and the grenades would create so much smoke that if you were down looking up you couldn’t see anything.Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police officers and you are in this cloud

of smoke and up above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall of bullets coming at them.This devotee police officer, with two other police officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers. He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying

intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutelyhopeless state.â€When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed, riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him, which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And because they were shooting at him the pillar protectedhim.He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

 

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Michael Bindel wrote:

>

>

> 

>

> Dear Radhe

> again

>

> " throwing the oars in the water "

>

> w o n d e r f u l

>

>

> " bad karma "

>

> in michaels personal experience in this life

>

> all catastrophes and all terrible happenings have proved afterwards to

> be real blessing

> so the ways of GD are of course unknown to us

> independent of our real IQ even if this is one of the highest possible

>

> so throwing everything in the water is that what this person excepted

> finally and by doing this thru Grace blossoms....

>

> in ITS Grace

>

> michael

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

abandoning yourself

corpse-like

to the ever running

river of life,

you appear as moving fast

to those watching

from the shore…

 

but when you

submit fully

to the current,

merging

with the flow -

reposing whole

in the present

you do not

move

at all

 

 

in love,

yosy

>

>

>

> -

> ** Radhe <shaantih

> *To:*

>

> *Sent:* Friday, April 10, 2009 2:31 AM

> *Subject:* Re: FW: A true story

>

> 

>

> Dear Alanji:

>

> Thank you for sharing your insights. While the ordinary mind may not

> be able to understand the Divine Ways, it is helpful if the

> ordinary mind realizes

> it is ordinary and trusts the ways of the Higher or Divine Wisdom.

> That is

> where Surrender comes in. And you are so right in saying that it

> may be

> a long time before the " reason " may become clear...sometimes years,

> perhaps a lifetime. Sometimes things happen just to push you in a

> certain

> direction you would not otherwise go. I often see people saying

> that this

> or that thing which happens is someone's bad karma. For people to

> think that all " bad "

> things which happen is a result of someone's bad karma is so

> judgmental

> and foolhardy. It is not for us to attempt to divinate the

> reasons behind

> Divine Wisdom.

>

> And Mirabai is one of my favorite saints. I have learned two of

> her bhajans so far

> and hope to add more in the future. She did not always ask for

> tribulation, though...

>

> here is one of my personal favorites...

>

> Guide this little boat

> over the waters,

> what can I give you for fare?

>

> Our mutable world holds nothing but grief,

> bear me away from it.

> Eight bonds of karma

> have gripped me,

> the whole of creation

> swirls through eight million wombs,

> through eight million birth-forms we flicker.

>

> Mira cries.

> Dark One

> take this little boat to the far shore,

> put an end to coming

> and going.

>

> In His Service and throwing the oars into the water,

>

> Radhe

>

>

>

>

> -

> ** Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs

> *To:*

>

> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:13 AM

> *Subject:* Re: FW: A true story

>

>

>

>

> Dear Rhadhe,

>

> After similar, but not such severe circumstances, I came to

> the conclusion that the ordinary mind cannot understand the

> ways of the Higher or Divine Wisdom which is always doing

> everything possible for our spiritual development, but we

> don't realise it at the time- yet, sooner or later it dawns on

> us, a long time afterwards. Even if we knew the reason it

> would only satisfy the mind. Faith, like love, conquers all

> things.Bhagavan said somewhere that 'all suffering is good- it

> leads to God Realisation'. I think through suffering we

> develop courage, equanimity and other virtues, leading to

> compassion for others. Mirabai used to pray for tribulation,

> because she said it brought her closer to Thou.

>

> I like the story about Narahimsa at the end. The LIon-Man has

> always intrigued me.

>

> Anyway I am glad to read that you are feeling somewhat better now.

>

> All Love,

>

> In His Ultimate Grace,

>

> Alan

>

> --- On *Tue, 7/4/09, Radhe /<shaantih/* wrote:

>

>

> Radhe <shaantih

> FW: A true story

>

> Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 11:42 PM

>

> This had been posted in another group. When I read it

> I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

> is. Sometimes it is hard not to get " immersed. "

> When the moment is there and things are happening,

> sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

> about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

> want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

>

> I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

> I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

> disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

> so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

> take it back because I realized that I needed to

> surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

> for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

> that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

> He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

>

> With love to all...

>

> In His Service,

>

> Radhe

>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---------

> --------- --------- ----

>

> This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer

> who fought the terrorists during the siege of the

> Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu's

> lecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:

>

> Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story

> the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes!

> There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked.

> They were fighting in there for three days, complete

> carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way

> that they would always be up higher. They would shoot

> from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja

> told me this. They had all these grenades and they would

> throw the grenades and the grenades would create so

> much smoke that if you were down looking up you

> couldn’t see anything.

>

> Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police

> officers and you are in this cloud of smoke and up

> above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists

> shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our

> devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these

> people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist

> were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete

> cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of

> their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and

> this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall

> of bullets coming at them.

>

> This devotee police officer, with two other police

> officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually

> was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he

> couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had

> on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers.

> He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying

> intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely

> helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutely

> hopeless state.â€

>

> When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend

> to the right and his friend to the left were completely

> killed,

> riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him,

> which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And

> because they were shooting at him the pillar protected

> him.

>

> He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the

> pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

>

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Namaste dear Michael:

 

If you look below at Ramesh's post you will see him mention all

of the surgeries he has had and the plates and screws, some of

them Titanium, which have been placed into his body to stabilize

his spine or perhaps replace lost parts :-( So he referred to himself

as a metallic man and I was just picking up on that and affectionately

teasing him in my response. Nothing profound, other than the miracles

of modern medicine.

 

Mundanely in His Service,

 

Radhe

 

Hare Krishna!!!

 

 

 

 

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Michael Bindel

Friday, April 10, 2009 1:52 AM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

 Dear Radhe

Namaste

 

please help an ignorant one

 

what is a metallic titanic man?

 

in Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

michael

 

 

 

-

Radhe

Friday, April 10, 2009 2:32 AM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

 Dear Ramesh garu :-)

 

You are indeed a metallic man, with a soft heart. I just want

to tell you what a pleasure it is to have you on this list. Most

of us who post have been here for years, and it is so nice that

you joined the family, and Dr. Raju also. You both bring some

new insights to the group and more bhakti is always welcome.

 

Do not worry about my use of the computer...that problem was

a few weeks ago...now I am much better and it is OK to use it

now. I have to smile at the perfection of your suggestion to chant

simple mantras...my whole day is in and out of chanting...I sing

to Him all day long really. When I sing I soar!!!

He must get tired of hearing me :-)

 

Love to you, Titanium man;-)

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

ramesh chivukula

Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:20 AM

Re: FW: A true story

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Radhe ,

 

A beautiful story .. I can very well undestand the intensity of the cervical pain ..having undergone two cervical spine surgery including a Titanium collar implant ( have 4 screws in the hip joint as well .. a very metallic person indeed ! ) .. You ought not to be using the computer atleast for a while .. as it is bound to increase the pain.. Am sure that even when "immersed " with your present state .. your soul must be soaring high ..Even a simple mantra like Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya .. will do wonders !

Wish you speedy recovery ..

 

In his JOY

 

ramesh

--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Radhe <shaantih (AT) comcast (DOT) net> FW: A true story Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 4:12 AM

 

 

 

This had been posted in another group. When I read it

I was moved by it and reminded just how easy my life

is. Sometimes it is hard not to get "immersed."

When the moment is there and things are happening,

sometimes the cry for help comes before you can think

about surrender to His will; then again, if He did not

want to, He would not grant such requests :-)

 

I myself had to stop myself a few weeks ago because

I was in such physical pain from a herniated cervical

disc. I found myself asking Him to take away the pain

so I could play my harmonium again and then I had to

take it back because I realized that I needed to

surrender to whatever reason He had for this pain

for me. Now I am doing much better but I realize

that it is easy to say that I will endure whatever

He sends my way until it comes my way :-)

 

With love to all...

 

In His Service,

 

Radhe

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

 

This is about an ISKCON devotee police officer who fought the terrorists during the siege of the Taj last year. Excerpted from Badrinarayan prabhu'slecture on 20th February 2009, at Mayapur:Radhanath Maharaja told me a very blissful story the other day and he said I could use it. So here goes! There was that Taj Hotel where the terrorists attacked. They were fighting in there for three days, complete carnage. The terrorists had arranged in such a way that they would always be up higher. They would shoot from a lower vantage point down. Radhanath Maharaja told me this. They had all these grenades and they would throw the grenades and the grenades would create so much smoke that if you were down looking up you couldn’t see anything.Picture that you are one of these soldiers or police officers and you are in this cloud of smoke and up above you there is this hail of bullets from the terrorists shooting at you. One of those soldiers was one of our devotees. At one point, they were trying to chase these people through the hotel. They are trapped. The terrorist were throwing all these grenades, they are in a complete cloud of smoke. They cannot see one foot in front of their face. They can’t see left, right or anything and this hail of bullets is being fired at them. Just a wall of bullets coming at them.This devotee police officer, with two other police officers on either side, he is in the middle, he actually was completely helpless. He couldn’t see left, right, he couldn’t see his colleagues. He remembered that he had on his ring tone on his phone Nrsimhadeva prayers. He began playing the Nrsimhadeva prayers and praying intently to Lord Nrsimhadeva, “Please I am absolutely helpless. I am going to die. Save me, I'm in an absolutelyhopeless state.â€When the shooting stopped, the smoke cleared, his friend to the right and his friend to the left were completely killed, riddled with bullets and he was unscathed. In front of him, which he couldn’t see at the time, was a giant pillar. And because they were shooting at him the pillar protectedhim.He thought, “Just as Lord Nrsimhadev came out of the pillar to save Prahlada, He put a pillar here to save me!â€

 

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