Guest guest Posted December 21, 2000 Report Share Posted December 21, 2000 On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 09:36:57 Mark W. Otter wrote: >thank you for posting this here. it's helpful to me. transitions are >never easy, and sometimes, one is tempted to second guess choices. >knowing that others are and have been in similar life changes, for the >better, is quite helpful. Hi Mark, Good luck on your transition. I take it you are changeing your career path ? I will be doing so in the near future too. Harsha, thank you for sharing that post with us. Love, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2000 Report Share Posted December 21, 2000 Gloria wrote: This thing we call life is indeed a path of delighful challenge but when a person really gets under it...or put another way... accepting it, then the bumps become waves and the waves disappear as the acceptance matures. One of the tools brought down for the group here in Reno is dream therapy. They learn to detach enough from their dream experience to allow the interpretation to come through, this directly corresponds to their week experience...down to the day. As the awareness of being as pure consciousness settles inside then the transformation not only works in the body/earth state but also enters into the out of body/dream/vision state. When there is a lot of self involvement the frequency of I, me, mine (duality) is evident, when they are maintaining consciousness in their dream experience they are actually speaking through knowing and moving through things at this level. It has been my experience, it is necessary for a person to work through something from the dream/vision /out of body state first, once this is accomplished, it seems to drop down into the conscious awareness and the transformation is immediate. It would appear, meditation opens the door to this reality but it needs to become evident through out the individuals consciousness. When it shows up in the training out of body and the individual confronts whatever issue is happening in life, then it bares fruit immediately. Do any of you have experience with this in your groups? Harsha wrote: > Thank you for your beautifully stated post in response to someone's dilemma > as to which career to pursue not knowing where one's best talents lie. The > fact that you switched your law career to that of a yoga teacher may seem > unusual to some but I have known many to change career directions in their > 30s and 40s and 50s when the current work did not seem satisfying anymore. > People are usually more successful when they love what they are doing. > > I will pass the message on to as well. > > My teacher used to say that sometimes those who seem dull and average at the > beginning of the spiritual path turn out to be the most talented in the long > run. Their gifts are slowly brought to light through their hard work, > attempt at understanding, patience and perseverance and tenacity in the face > of failures and setbacks. And some times those who start like rockets on the > path and appear to be the stars. fizzle out after some time. One never knows > about these things. The True Source is always the Inner Being, The Core of > Being, The Heart Within. To become aware of it is the only accomplishment. > The only Siddhi worth having is that of Self-Awareness. Everything else is > transient. All other powers gained by the body will be lost in due time. > That which is born will die. What has come together will again disintegrate. > The coming and going is the law of the universe. The nature of Self is > Awareness. It does not come and go and remains as it is as other things rise > and fall in it. Knowing That, all other accomplishments and works are a > matter of course. > > Love to all > Harsha > > > ISueMarcus [iSueMarcus] > Thursday, December 21, 2000 2:03 AM > Kundaliniyoga > Re: right livelihood > > I just read about your dilemma and although I too have similar self-doubts > (I > ended an 8 year career as a lawyer to be a yoga teacher - an obviously less > lucrative choice and one in which I have far less expertise), that is not > what impels me to respond. > > The first thing I thought of is how lucky you are to have so many things > that > interest you and from which you draw pleasure. And I am assuming that you > are at least good, if not great, at many of these. So the big question is, > why do you feel that in order to embark on a path, be it career or whatever, > you have to be the best at it? So what if others do it better than you do? > Do > you think I was the best attorney that ever was? Well, I was pretty talented > at what I did, actually, but certainly others are better. That's not why I > stopped though. Like you, it didn't feed my soul. And yes, it is hard to > know > what does, and you have already gotten advice, I see, about tuning in to > your > truest nature to find out what makes you tick, so to speak. > > On a less spiritual level, you might try keeping a pad or journal of some > sort, and every time you experience something that you love, that really > seems to satisfy you, write it down. If its eating chocolate ice cream, > write > it down. If its walking down a certain street, write it down. Write down the > things you imagine in your dreams - awake or asleep - that please you or > make > you smile. Without the effort of sitting and thinking about it - which will > certainly do you no good, as you will disrupt neutrality and thus block > insight - you will nonetheless be devoting a good deal of attention to what > makes you tick. The process itself may even start training you to become > more > aware - and thus more appreciative, perhaps - of the joys in your life. It > will help the answer to come. And if it doesn't, after a few months, you > always have pages and pages of notes to review. What are the trends, the > themes? What things repeatedly pop up as candy for your soul? Then you don't > have far to go to figure out what you can do that incorporates these things > (even if you have to be creative). And something tells me it will be > something you're good at. Which brings me back to the real intent of my > reply. (This exercise was an unanticipated tangent, actually.) > > Give up having to be great at what you do, or certainly, the best. Just give > it up, ok? There are a lot of people out there who need a lot of things and > they can't all get it from the one single person who does it best. Besides, > what is best? Not everyone wants the same thing or judges "best" by the same > measure, any more than 20 men in a room would agree on who the most > beautiful > woman is. What you have to offer, whatever you do, is the best at the way > you > do it, because you are uniquely qualified to offer yourself. Some people > will > naturally be drawn to what you have to offer, especially if it comes so > purely from within and is an expression of your love - for what you're > doing, > for yourself, and for others. So don't quantify, judge or compare. It would > be the equivalent of trying to mimic another's yoga practice in spite of > what > your body was telling you. It is not authentic and therefore not as > beneficial. Just feel it and do it. If it feels right, it will be. > > Good luck. > > Sat Nam, > S > > > // > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at > www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar > on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription > between digest and normal mode. -- Enter The Silence to become the Lightless Light and the Soundless Sound Gloria Joy Greco dennisgloria COME SEE ME @ http://www7.50megs.com/gloria/ http://www7.50megs.com/gloria/retreat.html MY SPONSORS @ http://www7.50megs.com/gloria/Sponsors.htm MEET DENNIS @: http://www.homebusiness.to/energydreg/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2000 Report Share Posted December 21, 2000 Harsha The only Siddhi worth having is that of Self-Awareness. Everything else istransient. All other powers gained by the body will be lost in due time.That which is born will die. What has come together will again disintegrate.The coming and going is the law of the universe. The nature of Self isAwareness. It does not come and go and remains as it is as other things riseand fall in it. Knowing That, all other accomplishments and works are amatter of course.Love to allHarsha Just wanted to underline that the Siddhi of Self-Awarness is also transient. Is it not the Beauty of it? Is there such a place for someone to know such and thing? This world is so beautifull Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2000 Report Share Posted December 21, 2000 On 12/21/00 at 6:11 PM Antoine Carré wrote: Harsha The only Siddhi worth having is that of Self-Awareness. Everything else istransient. All other powers gained by the body will be lost in due time.That which is born will die. What has come together will again disintegrate.The coming and going is the law of the universe. The nature of Self isAwareness. It does not come and go and remains as it is as other things riseand fall in it. Knowing That, all other accomplishments and works are amatter of course.Love to allHarsha Just wanted to underline that the Siddhi of Self-Awarness is also transient. Is it not the Beauty of it? Is there such a place for someone to know such and thing? This world is so beautifull Antoine Self-Awareness is quite ordinary Antoine, there is nothing else - "it is before conception,during life and after death of the mind body". The drama is that for many, this self-evident truth is buried deep under conditioning, acquired through upbringing and education. Finding that out, at the end of, say, a 20...30 year search in solitary retreat or seclusion, is another drama as it will be obvious that "sadhana", "search" etc. is but another conditioning, adopted to remove the first one.... whereas with "insight" this chasing of one's tail could have been prevented. Of course the world is beautiful - it is not different from Self-Awareness... nor is the drama, to discover this. But unless realized to the full, the sense of "drama" could remain actual. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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