Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:14:57 Gloria Lee wrote: It takes one to 101st level >of existent primal energy consciousness and beyond. I reside >permanently at the 101st level. At this level, it is difficutl to >function properly. So I avoid the spell checkers and hope no one minds. > >I taught Buddha this doctrine, although he misunderstood it a little >bit. For eons, I have taught this docotrine. It is difficult and >subtle and yet easy and obvious. this is the beauty of it. Would you >like for me to say more. LOL ! Welcome to our Center of Light, Shajaman. It is indeed very nice to meet a new member with a sense of humor. I feel sorry for you since it is so difficult to function when at the 101st level. Maybe you need to move up a notch ? >Hi, our leader is on vacation. Spelling we don't mind, and am glad you are not >as long-winded as "some", but then what is the good of it, if you don't bother >to snip those long posts. I may become the Total and Complete Master of Nagging, >if people don't shape up here. Don't make us have to take severe measures, ok? Oooh, Swami Gloria-ji, I'd just love to see you become severe. Divine Love, Sat-cit-Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 , "Gloria Lee" <glee@i...> wrote: > > If you can esplain primal non-centrality, as humorously as your inaugaural post, > it will be a thrill indeed. Funny, I don't recall meeting you over on NDS. > perhaps your defeat was too subtle to be noticed tho. > > Swami Gloria-ji > > Supreme Co-Moderator OK Miss Supreme Co-Moderator and thaks for the goahead. I will be putting forth a text on my doctrine of primal noncentriality. I gave it to Buddha but he did not fully grasp it. Since then I have changed my teaching techniques and couch everything in humor so it is more accessible to those below the 3rd leve of attainment like Wim. By the way, I did defeet evyone on all other lists I have gone to. The ones I vanquish through my logic and intellect (cuase that works on this realm) are th foronate ones as thye come to the proper path after being defeated. Sahajman! Sahajman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 ----- > > Supreme Co-Moderator OK Miss Supreme Co-Moderator and thaks for the goahead. I will be putting forth a text on my doctrine of primal noncentriality. I gave it to Buddha but he did not fully grasp it. Since then I have changed my teaching techniques and couch everything in humor so it is more accessible to those below the 3rd leve of attainment like Wim. By the way, I did defeet evyone on all other lists I have gone to. The ones I vanquish through my logic and intellect (cuase that works on this realm) are th foronate ones as thye come to the proper path after being defeated. Sahajman! Sahajman! --------------------------- Dear Supreme Sahaj-ji, Aaaah, forgive my blunder. I was unaware you referred to your simultaneous appearance on both lists. De path, de path!! Oh please, remember those of us who no longer function well with logic and intellect. The laughing path sounds more accessible indeed. But what is attainment when there is no one to attain? I am however extremely impressed that you spelled millennium correctly, as I myself once failed to use 2 n's. Supreme Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 Dear Sahajman, You wrote: > Since then I have changed my teaching techniques > and couch everything in humor so it is more > accessible to those below the 3rd leve of attainment like Wim. Thank for letting me meet you at least on the second level, was surprised I could reach that high, but then I was standing on the toes of giants. On level two, the humor is still a bit so so. So if you can turn it up a bit... Jestingly seriously. Wim - <sahajman January 4, 2001 10:14 AM Re: Message For the New Millennium > , "Gloria Lee" <glee@i...> wrote: > > > > If you can esplain primal non-centrality, as humorously as your > inaugaural post, > > it will be a thrill indeed. Funny, I don't recall meeting you over > on NDS. > > perhaps your defeat was too subtle to be noticed tho. > > > > Swami Gloria-ji > > > > Supreme Co-Moderator > > OK Miss Supreme Co-Moderator and thaks for the goahead. I will be > putting forth a text on my doctrine of primal noncentriality. I gave > it to Buddha but he did not fully grasp it. By the > way, I did defeet evyone on all other lists I have gone to. The ones I > vanquish through my logic and intellect (cuase that works on this > realm) are th foronate ones as thye come to the proper path after > being defeated. > > Sahajman! Sahajman! > > > eGroups Sponsor > > > // > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at > www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar > on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription > between digest and normal mode. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 Dang it, forgot to snip. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 I have posted the following message on nondual saloon. It may be of interest here as I propose to teach here. Sahajman John brother John brother John! Thank you for the translation of the Al-Hallaz poem. That was beautiful. Here is an ode to you John from Sahajman. It was written by my brother and is a rough translation into english. You perceive through disguises I see many masks we have but being perpetually naked no escape from innocent eyes An eternal emperor indeed goes everywhere without clothes when having lost everything it becomes clear that one cannot lose anything at all. Now I will shortly sign off nondual salon (thanks again ottoman). I have been invited by the Gloria Lee woman, the moderator and commander of harhasasatang, to explain the doctrine of "primal non-centrality" which I tried to teach Buddha long time ago. If Buddha had properly grasped this teaching, debates about whether reality is emptiness of non-self or fullness of self would have a richer context in which to build the bridge of understanding. I will also be telling actual stories of Buddha and some of his peers of the time whom I taught and advised. Many have reincarnated and some even currently inhabit internet lists of this type and are looking for the original doctrine of utmost purity from which nonduality and duality flow in and out of. Their hearts bounce with joy when they hear the message from Sahajman and they see the utter and radical and non-extraordinary thrust of static and dynamic beauties intermingling in unpredictable patterns to reveal the torrential and peaceful aspects of the raining of love currents. The reason I go now to the list of Gloriawoman is because of the respect I feel from those people. Not that it means much to someone who is on the 101st level of attainment. But frankly the offers to have my feet massaged on a regular basis while being fanned and fed grapes has a certain appeal to my body right now and I respect that. You are all beautiful and I love you (forget about the differences in our levels cause at my level (101st), I don't pay atteniton to that stuff - know what i mean). I am Sahajman! Sahajman! NondualitySalon , "John Metzger" riverjohn77@e... wrote: > > "Before" does not outstrip Him, > "after" does not interrupt Him > "of" does not vie with Him for precedence > "from" does not accord with Him > "to" does not join with Him > "in" does not inhabit Him > "when" does not stop Him > "if" does not consult with Him > "over" does not overshadow Him, "under" does not support Him > "opposite" does not face Him > "with" does not press Him > "behind" does not limit Him > "previous" does not display Him > "after" does not cause Him to pass away > "all" does not unite Him > "is" does not bring Him into being > "is not" does not deprive Him from Being. > Concealment does not veil Him > His pre-existence preceded time, > His being preceded non-being, > His eternity preceded limit. > If thou sayest 'when', His existing has outstripped time; > If thou sayest 'before', before is after Him; > If thou sayest 'he', 'h' and 'e' are His creation; > If thou sayest 'how', His essence is veiled from description; > If thou sayest 'where', His being preceded space; > If thou sayest 'ipseity' (ma huwa), > His ipseity (huwiwah) is apart from things. Other than He cannot > be qualified by two (opposite) qualities at > one time; yet With Him they do not create opposition. > He is hidden in His manifestation, manifest in His concealing. > He is outward and inward, > near and far; and in this respect He is > removed beyond the resemblance of creation. > He acts without contact, > instructs without meeting, > guides without pointing. > Desires do not conflict with Him, > thoughts do not mingle with Him: > His essence is without qualification (takyeef), > His action without effort (takleef). > Al-Hallaj , sahajman@h... wrote: > Thankyou Ottoman for your assistanc with the spell checker. fortunate > you are to have such oppertunityies to help the Blessed One that > Sahajman is. I recall that two centuries ago in another life you were > born in Japan in the house of a chamption summo wrestler. As you grew > up your father said to your mother, this boy is too skinny to follow > in my footsetps. you overheard and felt ashamed and started a life of > heavy summo exercises combined with eating gobs of butter, icecream, > and other stuff with calories. At the age of 18, you made your father > proud by beating the heavyweight summo champion and sitting on him for > a few seconds which made him pass out. When you got married to a > petite and beautiful young japanese aristocratic princess, I appeared > there at the wedding (as an aged tantic taoist master) to advise you > before you went for your honeymoon. My advice to you was the same as > it is now. Let your wife be on the top, if you wish for a happy > marriage. Young otto, this is my advice to you. Because you are big, > let others be on the top. You have a big heart auto. Let others be on > top. Follliw it yor success. > > Sahajman (master of all realms and dear abby of the universe) > > > , Mark Otter <mark.otter@s...> wrote: > > Hi Sahajman, > > > > I've edited your post for spelling. > > > > you're welcome, > > Mark > > > > sahajman@h... wrote: > > > > > Hello truth seekers! I am Sahajman. I am a spritiual conqueror and > > > emperor of light come to shed my grace on the fortunate ones. I > > > recently conquered the Nonduality salon and defeated the enlightened > > > people there in wild and thrilling debates and put many on the proper > > > path. I have come to do the same here. I am a peaceful warror. I > > > teach > > > the doctrine of central and primal non-centrality which is superior in > > > > > > everyway to both duality and nonduality. It takes one to the 101st > > > level > > > of existent primal energy consciousness and beyond. I reside > > > permanently at the 101st level. At this level, it is difficult to > > > function properly, so I avoid the spell-checkers and hope no one > > > minds. > > > > > > I taught Buddha this doctrine, although he misunderstood it a little > > > bit. For eons, I have taught this doctrine. It is difficult and > > > subtle and yet easy and obvious. This is the beauty of it. Would you > > > > > > like for me to say more? > > > > > > Take me to your leader. Speak, oh fortunate ones who witness my > > > presence. Blessed are thou indeed. > > > > > > Sahajman (The Total and Complete Master of All Realms) > > > > > > Sahajman > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 Dear Sahajman, You have indeed already conquered and vanquished me. Seriously. If Buddhahad properly grasped this teaching, debates about whether reality isemptiness of non-self or fullness of self would have a richer contextin which to build the bridge of understanding. Neat I will also be tellingactual stories of Buddha and some of his peers of the time whom Itaught and advised. Many have reincarnated and some even currentlyinhabit internet lists of this type and are looking for the originaldoctrine of utmost purity from which nonduality and duality flow inand out of. I have some memories of the younger Buddha as well memeories of afterhis death hoe he was involved in some councils to set some stuff straight. they see the utter and radical and non-extraordinarythrust of static and dynamic beauties intermingling in unpredictablepatterns to reveal the torrential and peaceful aspects of the rainingof love currents. Who said you needed a spell checker, nor do you need a thesaurus! Love, Wim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 , "mumble cat" <mumblecat@a...> wrote: > > LOL ! > > Welcome to our Center of Light, Shajaman. > > It is indeed very nice to meet a new member with a sense of humor. > > I feel sorry for you since it is so difficult to function when at the 101st level. > > Maybe you need to move up a notch ? Thankyou for the welcome Amandawoman. You are very funny and sweet. I have difficulty functioning at the 101st level. Lately I have some help though. one of my student well versed in english types this from what I say as I get massaged and rubbed. > >Hi, our leader is on vacation. Spelling we don't mind, and am glad you are not > >as long-winded as "some", but then what is the good of it, if you don't bother > >to snip those long posts. I may become the Total and Complete Master of Nagging, > >if people don't shape up here. Don't make us have to take severe measures, ok? > > Oooh, Swami Gloria-ji, I'd just love to see you become severe. > > Divine Love, > > Sat-cit-Amanda. Very creative also!! Sat-Chit-Amanda! Supreme commander Gloria should not be too severe with me as I have much to offer. I am Sahajman! Sahajman!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 , "Wim Borsboom" <aurasphere@h...> wrote: > Dear Sahajman, > You have indeed already conquered and vanquished me. > Seriously. Wim, I was just playing around. I don't conquer and vanquish. I just shadowbox and then vanish. You should share your past live memories and how they came about. Sahajman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 Re: Message For the New Millennium Yours was a very sad reply to a positive message, and not coming from a place of well being either. I agree with those who say that the next millennium will be a spiritual millennium or there won't be a next millennium. James NondualitySalon , sahajman@h... wrote: > I gotta give a message for the new millenium too friend and here it > is!!!! It is better than any other message for the new millenium, so > says the sahaj boy, the one true nature man! > > Don't get ripped off by the gurus! Instead rip them off by being > totally natural!! > > Sahajman - The One True Total And Perfect Master > > > > NondualitySalon , "James Bean" santmat@z... wrote: > > Sat Sandesh , sahajman@h... wrote: > Hello truth seekers! I am Sahajman. I am a spritiual conqeuror an > empror of light come to shed my grace on the forotuante ones. I > recently conquered the Nondualty saoon and defeated the enlightned > people there in wild that thrilling debates and put many on the proper > path. I have come to do the same here. I am a peaceful warror. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 , santmat@z... wrote: > > Re: Message For the New Millennium > > > Yours was a very sad reply to a positive message, and not coming from > a place of well being either. > > I agree with those who say that the next millennium will be a > spiritual millennium or there won't be a next millennium. > > James Hey, I got a sense of humor James. I got it from Hari Ram. I got it from my teachers and gurus. They never took things seriously. What should I do now? Reverse eons of laughter and tears. If your gurus are serious, you be serious James. I dont object. Its fine with me. My gurus were all funny and so am I. Sahajman the wonderful sends his love and blessings. I am the greatest and I know it. You are the greatest and I know it. Sahajman!! I am Sahajman!! There is a little bit of Sahajman in everyone if you look for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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