jAN/ raw food

[Guest guest]

Hi Jan,

 

Would you post a list of what you eat on a typical day, with quantities and

something

about how you prepare your food?

 

andrew

 

 

 

jb wrote:

> Hi Mark,

>

> Don't consider yourself a failure - despite the fact of being an example of

"abundant health and energy", not once in my life did that convince anyone to

adopt raw food veganism or "just" vegetarianism. And of course, arguments never

had any effect either... And from the many talks on the subject, a few of the

funniest responses I got

>

> 1) The joy of meat and fast food is worth all the colds and flu I get...

> 2) What works for your body, doesn't work for mine...

> 3) Humans do have teeth as a predator...

> 4) In a cold climate one must consume hot food...

> 5) You are an example no one can follow...

> 6) Eating is a pleasant social activity and I'm willing to pay the price of

disease...

>

> One could remark a controversy about a triviality like "optimum" food could be

easily "solved" but this would require "enough" rationality to be the impartial

witness of oneself - anyone capable of that will automatically find his/her way

without assistance and for those, not capable, examples, books, studies, it will

be moot until suffering starts to remove the "inner resistance".

>

> As a consolation, there can be even a rift in a family - one or more members

"in the world but not of it", the other members making a mockery out of that...

>

> Hence the favorite dictum "things can always get worse"

>

> Jan

[Guest guest]

On 1/22/01 at 9:42 AM andrew macnab wrote:

 

ºHi Jan,

º

ºWould you post a list of what you eat on a typical day, with quantities

ºand something

ºabout how you prepare your food?

º

ºandrew

 

A pleasure:

 

After waking up, two or three ripe apples (here, mostly red or golden

delicious), about 1 to 1.5 lb (consumed with peel).

When hungry again (a little before noon), a few oranges, tangerines and

sometimes a grapefruit (another 1...1.5 lb)

Then, it is hiking time and when on a "heavy" hike, 5 oranges are taken along

too (2 lbs), otherwise, just water is taken along, to drink just before and

after the hike.

When returned home, a blend is made, consisting of for instance grapes, orange,

bananas, (dried) figs, a carrot and often, some cinnamon. Quantity about 2...3

lbs (a "heavy" meal).

 

Later in the evening, tomatoes (1...3 lbs) serving as drink too - with the

blender that is easy (juicing is rarely applied). A few times a week, a

vegetable blend with tomatoes, carrots, cauliflower or broccoli, cucumber and a

few herbs (a so called "lazy man's drinkable salad"). Once a month or so,

avocados and the juice of green leaves are made into a sauce for a salad (spiced

with garlic and pepper) of non-leafy veggies.

 

As there are many fruits and veggies, there is an infinite number of variations

of the above - rule is to use freshly picked whenever possible... Here, that

means for instance no figs in winter, no oranges in mid-summer. And whenever

possible, like in a blend, the pips and the peel are used too. The "white" of

oranges can even turn a blend of tomatoes, carrots and oranges into a jelly

-like substance...

 

I hope this helps...

 

Good appetite,

Jan

[Guest guest]

Jan -

Do you use only a blender or do you also use a juicer? What are the

advantages/disadvantages of each?

David

 

At 08:24 PM 1/22/01 +0000, you wrote:

><snip>

>Later in the evening, tomatoes (1...3 lbs) serving as drink too - with the

>blender that is easy (juicing is rarely applied). A few times a week, a

>vegetable blend with tomatoes, carrots, cauliflower or broccoli, cucumber

>and a few herbs (a so called "lazy man's drinkable salad"). Once a month

>or so, avocados and the juice of green leaves are made into a sauce for a

>salad (spiced with garlic and pepper) of non-leafy veggies.

[Guest guest]

jb wrote:

> I hope this helps...

>

> Good appetite,

> Jan

>

 

 

Thanks Jan, yes it does.

 

andrew

[Guest guest]

jb wrote:

> I hope this helps...

>

> Good appetite,

> Jan

>

 

 

I am surprised that you can thrive on so little protein, I had expected there

would be

some nuts or sprouted grains in your diet.

 

andrew

[Guest guest]

On 1/22/01 at 4:22 PM David Hodges wrote:

 

ºJan -

º Do you use only a blender or do you also use a juicer? What are the

ºadvantages/disadvantages of each?

ºDavid

 

 

I am using both: with the blender, it is possible to use edible material like

the white part of orange peels,

that would be thrown away otherwise (it contains more vitamins than the flesh

. Quite often, a blend made from fruits it tastier than any of the constituent

fruits... With a powerful blender, it is possible to add dried fruit like figs,

raisins or prunes, to make for a very sweet taste, or to add carrots when the

rise of energy-levels has to be slowed down (the body will take time to adopt to

fruit and the generous offer of carbohydrates: adding carrots will make that

easier).

 

But the juicer will separate peels and texture from the juice: veggies without

much taste will often result in a tasty juice (try carrots). The disadvantage of

juices could be too fast a rise of glucose levels - a risk that is non-existent

for green, leafy veggies. A mix of spinach, carrots and oranges will result in a

tasty juice... A matter of experimenting, as tastes are different. In summer, a

juicer is great to make cool, tasty, low-calorie drinks - I use veggies like

tomatoes, carrots, spinach, red beet, sweet red peppers, some herbs and spices.

I am quite sure anyone would be pleasantly surprised with the juices I prepare

and that goes for the fruit-blends too

 

Jan

 

Jan

[Guest guest]

On 1/22/01 at 6:29 PM andrew macnab wrote:

 

ºjb wrote:

º

º> I hope this helps...

º>

º> Good appetite,

º> Jan

º>

º

º

ºI am surprised that you can thrive on so little protein, I had expected

ºthere would be

ºsome nuts or sprouted grains in your diet.

º

ºandrew

 

Rather rarely, for instance when having to choose in a salad bar, I take a salad

with for instance sun flower seeds... But that is the exception. Apparently,

protein is recirculated - little being lost from circulation. If I would be the

only one living that way, it would be a surprise but there are many... The human

body needs surprisingly little protein. So little that I can notice too high an

intake immediately. Probably this is one of the most beneficial side effects of

raw food veganism: when the body is adopted to it, it will faithfully indicate

the "state of health". The amount of "silent indicators" is rather high and it

is worthwhile to become aware of them. On cooked food diets, these indicators

either are "dead" or aren't noticed...

 

The only "negative" effect could be, interpreting the absence of corporeality

from awareness as a sign of spiritual progress whereas it is just a side effect

of "health as meant to be".

 

Jan

[Guest guest]

jb wrote:

>

>

> After waking up, two or three ripe apples (here, mostly red or golden

delicious), about 1 to 1.5 lb (consumed with peel).

> When hungry again (a little before noon), a few oranges, tangerines and

sometimes a grapefruit (another 1...1.5 lb)

> Then, it is hiking time and when on a "heavy" hike, 5 oranges are taken along

too (2 lbs), otherwise, just water is taken along, to drink just before and

after the hike.

> When returned home, a blend is made, consisting of for instance grapes,

orange, bananas, (dried) figs, a carrot and often, some cinnamon. Quantity about

2...3 lbs (a "heavy" meal).

>

> Later in the evening, tomatoes (1...3 lbs) serving as drink too - with the

blender that is easy (juicing is rarely applied). A few times a week, a

vegetable blend with tomatoes, carrots, cauliflower or broccoli, cucumber and a

few herbs (a so called "lazy man's drinkable salad"). Once a month or so,

avocados and the juice of green leaves are made into a sauce for a salad (spiced

with garlic and pepper) of non-leafy veggies.

>

> As there are many fruits and veggies, there is an infinite number of

variations of the above - rule is to use freshly picked whenever possible...

Here, that means for instance no figs in winter, no oranges in mid-summer. And

whenever possible, like in a blend, the pips and the peel are used too. The

"white" of oranges can even turn a blend of tomatoes, carrots and oranges into a

jelly -like substance...

>

> I hope this helps...

>

> Good appetite,

> Jan

 

Thanks Jan, interesting stuff, food for thought, so to speak, if you don't

mind me asking

about what does it cost to eat this way for a week? How often do you have to

shop to maintain

freshness?

 

Thanks, Mace

>

>

[Guest guest]

On 1/22/01 at 8:03 PM Mace Mealer wrote:

[...]

º

º Thanks Jan, interesting stuff, food for thought, so to speak, if you

ºdon't mind me asking

º about what does it cost to eat this way for a week? How often do you

ºhave to shop to maintain

º freshness?

º

º Thanks, Mace

 

 

Not doing any bookkeeping and throwing away cash receipts, I have to estimate

the amount...

Visiting a shop is between 2..4 times a week and each time, cost is between

2,500 and 5,000 Ptas.

So the monthly amount would be between 20,000 and 80,000 Ptas or $100 to $400...

Fruit like fresh figs cannot be kept for more than a day whereas freshly picked

oranges

can be kept over a week... Bananas can be bought for less than $.5 a kilo

whereas mangas

at times are ten times as expensive...

 

 

Jan

[Guest guest]

Just catching up on all the interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing this Jan

about your raw food diet. It is quite fascinating. My understanding is that

you have been on this type of diet for about 12 years, right? Do you still

do some type of pranayama? Also, other than avocado, once a month, there is

not much fat in the diet it seems. Ever supplement with sprouted lentils or

garbanzo beans or almonds over the last 10 years? Yogi Gupta, one of my

teachers, was a pure raw food vegetarian. He would tell us in his very soft

voice "Cooked food is dead food!" However, he was in favor of sprouted seeds

and legumes which he considered living food with energy bursting out.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

 

 

jb [kvy9]

Monday, January 22, 2001 3:25 PM

Re: jAN/ raw food

 

 

On 1/22/01 at 9:42 AM andrew macnab wrote:

 

:Hi Jan,

:

:Would you post a list of what you eat on a typical day, with quantities

:and something

:about how you prepare your food?

:

:andrew

 

A pleasure:

 

After waking up, two or three ripe apples (here, mostly red or golden

delicious), about 1 to 1.5 lb (consumed with peel).

When hungry again (a little before noon), a few oranges, tangerines and

sometimes a grapefruit (another 1...1.5 lb)

Then, it is hiking time and when on a "heavy" hike, 5 oranges are taken

along too (2 lbs), otherwise, just water is taken along, to drink just

before and after the hike.

When returned home, a blend is made, consisting of for instance grapes,

orange, bananas, (dried) figs, a carrot and often, some cinnamon. Quantity

about 2...3 lbs (a "heavy" meal).

 

Later in the evening, tomatoes (1...3 lbs) serving as drink too - with the

blender that is easy (juicing is rarely applied). A few times a week, a

vegetable blend with tomatoes, carrots, cauliflower or broccoli, cucumber

and a few herbs (a so called "lazy man's drinkable salad"). Once a month or

so, avocados and the juice of green leaves are made into a sauce for a salad

(spiced with garlic and pepper) of non-leafy veggies.

 

As there are many fruits and veggies, there is an infinite number of

variations of the above - rule is to use freshly picked whenever

possible... Here, that means for instance no figs in winter, no oranges in

mid-summer. And whenever possible, like in a blend, the pips and the peel

are used too. The "white" of oranges can even turn a blend of tomatoes,

carrots and oranges into a jelly -like substance...

 

I hope this helps...

 

Good appetite,

Jan

[Guest guest]

Yes, I started with raw food in 1989 and for me is was a great improvement over

the cooked food diet. Pranayama stopped being an issue some 30 years ago, then

its contribution was noticeable, since then its influence no longer could be

noticed. In Belgium, sprouting was easy and sometimes it was done, but here,

the climate is much warmer and molds can grow faster than the sprouts... Almonds

are abundant and sometimes I pick a few... The avocados are occasional too - btw

thanks for the reminder, I've got to send a friend a few pips for her garden -

that means eating a few first

 

Yogi Gupta is right regarding the sprouts: they are high in life-energy and

lower in calories than fruit... But in my case, the life-energy wouldn't make

the least difference and as one of the

few habits left is hiking (demanding a lot of calories), fruits are the "better"

food...

 

Jan

[Guest guest]

Yes, I started with raw food in 1989 and for me is was a great

improvement over the cooked food diet. Pranayama stopped being an

issue some 30 years ago, then its contribution was noticeable, since

then its influence no longer could be noticed. In Belgium, sprouting

was easy and sometimes it was done, but here, the climate is much

warmer and molds can grow faster than the sprouts... Almonds are

abundant and sometimes I pick a few... The avocados are occasional

too - btw thanks for the reminder, I've got to send a friend a few

pips for her garden - that means eating a few first

 

Yogi Gupta is right regarding the sprouts: they are high in life-

energy and lower in calories than fruit... But in my case, the life-

energy wouldn't make the least difference and as one of the

few habits left is hiking (demanding a lot of calories), fruits are

the "better" food...

 

Jan