the raw and the cooked

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Hi Jan,

 

Thanks for giving us the specifics of your diet. It tempts me to try a similar

one,

but I have found for the past years of real active kundalini that there can be a

lot

of trouble if my diet is very light. If I fast for any length of time or don't

regularly eat "heavy" foods like grains and oils, for example, it becomes

difficult

to focus and stay in a "normal" grounded consciousness, or to keep consciousness

sufficiently in the physical body for its optimal (or sometimes basic!)

functioning. Did you have this experience at any stage? Maybe Linda can also

address this issue-- what causes it.

 

Also, I remember reading in several sources that in ayruveda mixing certain

fruits

in one dish or meal is not recommended, but I don't remember why. Can Linda or

anyone else on the list address this?

 

Jill

 

jb wrote:

> On 1/22/01 at 4:22 PM David Hodges wrote:

>

> ºJan -

> º Do you use only a blender or do you also use a juicer? What are the

> ºadvantages/disadvantages of each?

> ºDavid

>

> I am using both: with the blender, it is possible to use edible material like

> the white part of orange peels,

> that would be thrown away otherwise (it contains more vitamins than the flesh

> . Quite often, a blend made from fruits it tastier than any of the

constituent

> fruits... With a powerful blender, it is possible to add dried fruit like

figs,

> raisins or prunes, to make for a very sweet taste, or to add carrots when the

> rise of energy-levels has to be slowed down (the body will take time to adopt

to

> fruit and the generous offer of carbohydrates: adding carrots will make that

> easier).

>

> But the juicer will separate peels and texture from the juice: veggies without

> much taste will often result in a tasty juice (try carrots). The disadvantage

of

> juices could be too fast a rise of glucose levels - a risk that is

non-existent

> for green, leafy veggies. A mix of spinach, carrots and oranges will result in

a

> tasty juice... A matter of experimenting, as tastes are different. In summer,

a

> juicer is great to make cool, tasty, low-calorie drinks - I use veggies like

> tomatoes, carrots, spinach, red beet, sweet red peppers, some herbs and

spices.

> I am quite sure anyone would be pleasantly surprised with the juices I prepare

> and that goes for the fruit-blends too

>

> Jan

>

> Jan

>

> //

>

> All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

> perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back

> into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the

ocean,

> all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness

does

> not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is.

> Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee

> relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within

into

> It Self. Welcome all to a.

>

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On 1/22/01 at 6:30 PM Jill Eggers wrote:

 

ºHi Jan,

º

ºThanks for giving us the specifics of your diet. It tempts me to try a

ºsimilar one,

ºbut I have found for the past years of real active kundalini that there

ºcan be a lot

ºof trouble if my diet is very light. If I fast for any length of time or

ºdon't

ºregularly eat "heavy" foods like grains and oils, for example, it becomes

ºdifficult

ºto focus and stay in a "normal" grounded consciousness, or to keep

ºconsciousness

ºsufficiently in the physical body for its optimal (or sometimes basic!)

ºfunctioning. Did you have this experience at any stage? [...]

 

 

Hi Jill,

 

Although it is thought that one can continue "life as usual" when K. is

ascending, there are several

occasions where this isn't the case and (supervised) temporary retirement from

society would be required

to remove a block. Not the kind of block you probably are used to, but one

involving samadhi(s) and a complete,

temporary "loss" of what is interpreted as "being grounded" but what really is

just the sense of "I" or "doership".

So what you are trying to avoid is what could be one of "THE" great events of a

lifetime...

 

In my case, over 30 years ago, the issue of being grounded was moot, having

accepted "death" as "ground" and on several days the mind-body must have been

performing its duties, without any remembrance of it remaining, when having

returned from work and coming to "my" senses again.... Yet the work was done OK

 

So I would say the issue isn't food but something far more important...

 

 

Jan

[Guest guest]

Hi Jill:

It's always good to hear from you :-). Don't know if I have the exact

answer to your question but it sounds to me as if the 'vata' element

is high in you and by eating the light, raw foods you increase the

'vata' or air/ether element even more. That increase would account

for being ungrounded and unable to concentrate.

I've been following the food subject and it is apparent that there are

many different ways of approaching one's diet. Even if one cooks

their food it is possible to make the food "sattvic" by the choice of

foods ie., ghee and properly prepared milk and also chanting while

preparing the food would add to the high quality of the food.

Without trying to step on anyone's toes here IMHO Jan's "K" experience

was different from most of us in that it appears to have gone straight

up the sushumna and he did not have blocks to work through or residues

of energy to purify. For lots of us other folks there is still work

to be done and enlightenment did not follow "K". It is interesting

that Jan's fruit diet follows the yogic scriptures for the latter

part of one's life when spirituality is the daily dharma....perhaps

many of us can look forward to that at a future time :-). For

myself, vata also tends to go high and I find that I have many

responsibilities in the mundane world and I also need cooked veggies

and grains....now if I could just stay away from the cookies :-).

Stay well.

Love,

Linda

Thanks for giving us the specifics of your diet. It tempts me to try

a similar one,but I have found for the past years of real active

kundalini that there can be a lotof trouble if my diet is very light.

If I fast for any length of time or don'tregularly eat "heavy" foods

like grains and oils, for example, it becomes difficultto focus and

stay in a "normal" grounded consciousness, or to keep

consciousnesssufficiently in the physical body for its optimal (or

sometimes basic!)functioning. Did you have this experience at any

stage? Maybe Linda can alsoaddress this issue-- what causes

it.Also, I remember reading in several sources that in ayruveda

mixing certain fruitsin one dish or meal is not recommended, but I

don't remember why. Can Linda oranyone else on the list address

this?Jill>> //>> All

paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,>

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and

subside back> into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not

different than the ocean,> all things arising from Awareness are of

the nature of Awareness. Awareness does> not come and go but is

always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is.> Jnanis know

the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee>

relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from

within into> It Self. Welcome all to a.>> To

from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at>

www., and select the User Center link from the>

menu bar> on the left. This menu will also let you

change your> subscription> between digest and

normal mode.// All paths

go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and

subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not

different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of

the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always

Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart

to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the

Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It

Self. Welcome all to a.To from this list,

go to the ONElist web site, at www., and

select the User Center link from the menu bar on the

left. This menu will also let you change your subscription

between digest and normal mode.

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Fruitarianism gaining popularity, there are some people who will go at

length explaining and providing evidence, when possible. An excerpt

from http://www.geocities.com/hotsprings/3893/

Many will attack the diet, (just like vegetarianism and veganism was

attacked for decades) and will say that it is deficient in calcium or

protein... Without trying, it is easy to get more than sufficient

amounts of all nutrients on a fruitarian diet, even calcium and yes

even protein. For those who do not believe us, please contact us and

we will clearly dispel the myth for you.

Most of the fears and myths are a result of ignorance or

misinformation. When we become informed and educated, we realize

that the fruitarian diet does supply us with everything we need and

not only is the best diet for humans, but (not coincidentally) it is

the more environmentally sound diet for the planet.

(To ease speed reading, I emphasized that generous offer with red)

As could be expected, commercialism is entering here too, leaving

things where they belong: many years of "personally" gathered

experience & expertise, not to mention verification...

Jan