RE: Papaji, Papaji's ambassadors, J. Krishnamurti, Ramesh, Wayne

[Guest guest]

This is an open letter addressed to everyone:

 

I do not know if there is any sort of automatic

cut off of emails if the email is too long.

However, if this email is cut off

I have added it to the DISCERNMENT page

that can be read at:

http://home.talkcity.com/GaiaWay/Infinite_Freedom/DISCERNMENT.htm

 

Dear Dan:

 

It appears that you may have open mindedly considered

 

the Document on the DISCERNMENT Web page.

 

For that I thank you.

 

This response is not directed to you or your

inquiries.

 

The response that comes to mind from your

 

inquires would translate into many pages.

 

This reply is addressed to everyone:

 

I view all message board posting,

 

including the message that I am posting now,

 

as an ego notion preservation strategy.

 

I went six months without posting a message

 

here at nonduality salon or at the advaita board,

 

with the exception of posting links to

 

various etc.

 

However, as far as dialogue and expressing

 

"my" view, I stayed away for six months.

 

Since, I think that message board posting is an

 

ego notion preservation strategy,

 

I hope that it will be very rare

 

that I post in the future.

 

I do not mean to single out the activity of

 

message board and egroup posting.

 

The ego notion has so many ways

 

that it can stay preoccupied

 

that it would be impossible to count them all.

 

I spent 25 years reading spiritual books

 

and thinking about them. I would guess an average

 

of two hours per day reading and an average of

 

six hours per day thinking about "spiritual concepts".

 

This endless reading and thinking

 

was an ego notion preservation strategy.

 

I wish I had spent that time in Self-inquiry instead.

 

Sri Ramana acknowledged that some reading in the

 

beginning to get the basics can be helpful, however,

 

Sri Ramana gave very many warnings against

 

endless thought and book reading etc.,

 

and I had read his warnings as a teenager,

 

however I did not give them the importance that I

 

should have and I did not follow his advice.

 

I wish I had followed his advice.

 

As to what self-inquiry is or is not,

 

Sri Ramana Maharshi has made that

 

precisely, exactly clear.

 

If it ever seems unclear, it is always because

 

the ego notion, as a preservation strategy,

 

is making it unclear.

 

One such strategy, is to begin to think about,

 

or analyze a spiritual teaching.

 

That is a clever strategy by the ego notion.

 

There are so many possible combinations of thoughts

 

that, like the lottery,

 

the odds against getting it right,

 

are millions or billions or trillions to one.

 

I will present here some of the clues that

 

Sri Ramana Maharshi and Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

 

gave regarding not engaging in unncessary activity,

 

including thinking.

 

It is worthwhile to read their words over and over,

 

each sentence has so much meaning.

 

1. "The intricate maze of philosophy

 

of different schools is said to clarify matters

 

and reveal the Truth.

 

But in fact they create confusion

 

where no confusion need exist."

 

--From Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

Sri Ramana goes on to give various examples

 

of people discussing Vedanta etc. and then says:

 

2. "Why should confusion be created

 

and then explained away?

 

Ah! Fortunate is the man who does not involve

 

himself in this maze!

 

I was indeed fortunate that I never took to it.

 

Had I taken to it,

 

I would be nowhere - always in confusion.

 

My former tendencies (purva vasanas)

 

directly took me to the inquiry

 

'Who am I?'

 

It was indeed fortunate!"

 

--From Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi

>From the above one can see that philosophical and

 

"spiritual" discussion is not self-inquiry and in fact

 

leads in the opposite direction.

 

The ego notion may enjoy what it thinks it is

 

learning on the journey through "spiritual" concepts,

 

however, as usual this is just the ego notion lying

 

to itself as an ego notion preservation strategy.

 

The intense desire for freedom is what is needed

 

to put an end to these and other ego notion

 

preservation strategies.

 

Just imagine if your desire to end the ego notion

 

were a million times what it is now.

 

Then imagine what it would be like of the your

 

desire to end the ego notion were a million times

that.

 

Oh how the priorities would then change!

 

Sri Ramana expresses it thus:

 

3. "Eagerness to do it must be equal to that

 

of a man kept under water

 

trying to rise up to the surface for his life."

 

--From Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

4. "Disapassion (vairagya) must be very strong

 

to do this."

 

--From Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

5. "Your effort is sine qua non"

 

(an indispensable or essential condition,

 

element, or factor.)

 

--From Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

6. The following is from “Who am I?”

 

by Sri Ramana Maharshi:

 

Questioner: “How will the mind become quiescent?”

 

Maharshi: “By the inquiry ‘Who am I?’.

 

The thought ‘who am I?’ will destroy

 

all other thoughts,

 

and like the stick used for stirring the burning pyre,

 

 

it will itself in the end get destroyed.

 

Then, there will arise Self-Realization.”

 

Questioner: “What is the means for constantly holding

on to the thought ‘Who am I?’”

 

Maharshi: "When other thoughts arise,

 

one should not pursue them,

 

but should inquire:

 

'To whom do they arise?'

 

It does not matter how many thoughts arise.

 

As each thought arises,

 

one should inquire with dilligence,

 

'To whom has this thought arisen?'.

 

The answer that would emerge would be ‘To me.’

 

Thereupon if one inquires ‘Who am I?’,

 

the mind will go back to its source;

 

and the thought that arose will become quiescent.

 

With repeated practice in this manner,

 

the mind will develop the skill to stay in its

source.”

 

Questioner: “ Are there no other means for making the

mind quiescent?”

 

Maharshi: “Other than inquiry,

 

there are no adequate means.

 

If through other means

 

it is sought to control the mind,

 

the mind will appear to be controlled,

 

but will again go forth.”

 

Questioner: “How long should inquiry be practiced?”

 

Maharshi: “As long as there are

 

impressions of objects in the mind,

 

so long the inquiry ‘Who am I?’ is required.

 

As thoughts arise they should be destroyed

 

then and there in the very place of their origin,

 

through inquiry.”

 

The key to understand how this relates to the

 

importance of not engaging in unnecessary activity

 

including thinking etc. is in this portion of the

 

above quote:

 

Maharshi: “When other thoughts arise,

 

one should not pursue them,

 

but should inquire: ‘To whom do they arise?’"

 

Specifically: "one should not pursue them"

 

Thinking about "spiritual" topics and posting

 

them etc. requires pursuing the thought.

 

The instruction is: "one should not pursue them,

 

but should inquire: 'To whom do they arise?'"

 

It also shows that the the question is

 

not to be asked only once,

 

it is to be asked every time a thought arises.

 

Maharshi: "It does not matter how many thoughts arise.

 

 

As each thought arises,

 

one should inquire with diligence,

 

‘To whom has this thought arisen?’."

 

Most people have hundreds or even thousands

 

of thoughts each day.

 

Thus the question will be asked

 

thousands of times each day.

 

The inquiry must be continuous

 

according to Sri Ramana.

 

Even when the mind is quiet

 

one must inquire according to Sri Ramana

 

as the following passage shows:

 

7. Questioner: “When I am engaged in inquiry as to

the source from which the 'I' springs,

I arrive at a stage of stillness of mind beyond which

I find myself unable to proceed further.

 

I have no thought of any kind and there is an

emptiness, a blankness.

 

A mild light pervades and I feel that it is myself

bodiless.

 

I have neither cognition nor vision of body and form.

 

The experience lasts nearly half an hour and is

pleasing.

 

Would I be correct in concluding that all that was

necessary to secure eternal happiness,

 

that is freedom or salvation or whatever one calls it,

 

was to continue the practice till this experience

could be maintained for hours,

 

days and months together?”

 

Maharshi: “This does not mean salvation.

 

Such a condition is termed manolaya

 

or temporary stillness of thought.

 

Manolaya means concentration,

 

temporarily arresting the movement of thoughts.

 

As soon as this concentration ceases, thoughts,

 

old and new, rush in as usual;

 

and even if this temporary lulling of mind

 

should last a thousand years,

 

it will never lead to total destruction of thought,

 

which is what is called liberation

 

from birth and death.

 

The practitioner must therefore be ever on the alert

 

and inquire within as to who has this experience?,

 

who realizes its pleasantness?.

 

Without this inquiry he will go into a long trance

 

or deep sleep (yoga nidra).

 

Due to the absence of a proper guide

 

at this stage of spiritual practice,

 

many have been deluded and fallen a prey

 

to a false sense of liberation

 

and only a few have managed to reach the goal safely.”

 

 

Thus even when the mind is still one must inquire

 

who has this experience?

 

Thus both when there are thoughts,

 

and when there are no thoughts

 

the inquiry must be continuous.

 

In the above passage Sri Ramana points out

 

that a still mind,

 

even if it remains still for a thousand years,

 

will never lead to liberation.

 

Sri Ramana's teaching is and always has been

 

Self-Inquiry.

 

The above quote regarding the many who

 

are deluded into a false sense of liberation

 

reveals so much.

 

How many people are giving "satsang"

 

and teaching both on the net and off the net,

 

who have been deluded

 

into this false sense of liberation?

 

Can those people really help anyone to be free?

 

Not according to Sri Ramana:

 

8. "By him alone whose saved himself,

 

can other folk be freed.

 

The help of others is as if

 

the blind, the blind would lead."

 

--From the Collected Works of Ramana Maharshi.

 

9. (34.) For unlearned folk there is only one family

 

consisting of wife, children and dependents.

 

But in the mind of those with much learning

 

there are many families of books,

 

theories and opinions as obstacles to yoga."

 

-Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

10. (35.) What is the use of letters to those

 

lettered folk who do not seek to wipe out the letters

 

of Fate by inquiring, 'Whence are we born?'

 

What else are they but gramaphones,

 

O Lord of Arunachala?

 

They learn and repeat words without realizing

 

their meaning.

 

--Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

11. (36) The unlettered are easier saved

 

than those who are learned but unsubdued.

 

The unlettered are free from the clutches

 

of the demon pride,

 

they are free from the malady of

 

many whirling thoughts and words;

 

they are free from the mad pursuit of wealth;

 

they are free from many ills.

 

--Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

Quotes #9,10, and 11 above are from

 

Reality in forty verses supplement,

 

which can be found in

 

The Collected Works of Ramana Maharshi

 

12. D: What is the sun marga?

 

What is the moon marga? Which of them is easier?

 

Maharshi: "Ravi marga (sun marga) is jnana.

 

Moon marga is Yoga.

 

They think that after purifying

 

the 72,000 thousand nadis in the body

 

sushumna is entered and the mind passes up to the

 

sahasrara and there is nectar trickling.

 

These are all mental concepts.

 

The man is already overwhelmed by world concepts.

 

Other concepts are now added

 

in the shape of this Yoga.

 

The object of all these is to rid man of concepts

 

and to make him inhere as the pure Self -

 

i.e., absolute consciousness,

 

bereft of thought!

 

Why not go straight to it?

 

Why add new encumbrances

 

to the already existing ones?"

 

--From Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi.

 

You can apply the above to all

 

spiritual concepts and Teachings.

 

Also this is a good example of how Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

 

would discourage all other methods

 

except the direct one.

 

13. "Books are outside the five sheaths,

 

the Self is within the five sheaths,

 

how can the search be done in books?"

 

--Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

The same can that can be said for books

 

can be said for the computer, the web

 

and spiritual clubs and groups also.

 

According to Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj it is important

 

to set aside time to focus on nothing except the I AM.

 

 

14. Sri Nisargadatta:

 

“When I met my Guru, he told me:

 

‘You are not what you take yourself to be.

 

Find out what you are.

 

Watch the sense 'I am', find your real Self.’

 

I obeyed him, because I trusted him.

 

I did as he told me.

 

All my spare time I would spend

 

looking at myself in silence.

 

And what a difference it made, and how soon!

 

My teacher told me to

 

hold on to the sense 'I am' tenaciously

 

and not to swerve from it even for a moment.

 

I did my best to follow his advice

 

and in a comparatively short time

 

I realized within myself the truth of his teaching.

 

All I did was to remember his teaching,

 

his face, his words constantly.

 

This brought an end to the mind;

 

in the stillness of the mind I saw myself as I am --

 

unbound.

 

I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction

 

which was to focus the mind on pure being 'I am',

 

and stay in it.

 

I used to sit for hours together,

 

with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind

 

and soon peace and joy and a deep all-embracing love

 

became my normal state.

 

In it all disappeared –

 

myself,

 

my Guru,

 

the life I lived,

 

the world around me.

 

Only peace remained and unfathomable silence.

 

My Guru ordered me to attend to the sense 'I am'

 

and to give attention to nothing else.

 

I just obeyed.”

 

There is so much of great value in the above quote

#14.

 

"I did as he told me".

 

Sri Nisargadatta's guru

 

gave him very simple instructions

 

and instead of complicating them,

 

and analyzing them, he just followed them.

 

"All my spare time I would spend

 

looking at myself in silence".

 

Notice the phrase "spare time".

 

In other passages, in this same context,

 

Sri Nisargadatta has said:

 

"I had to support my family".

 

Thus Sri Nisargadatta makes

 

a clear distinction between

 

spare time and other time

 

such as the activity of livelihood.

 

If Sri Nisargadatta had been like most people,

 

he would have little or no "spare time".

 

The ego notion can create thousands upon thousands

 

of ways to occupy time.

 

This is an ego notion preservation strategy.

 

Posting messages on the internet is only one way

 

of avoiding following Sri Nisargadatta's

 

and Sri Ramana's advice.

 

Millions of other forms of escape,

 

entertainment etc. are possible.

 

The purpose of spiritual discussion is to reveal

 

clearly the way to end the ego notion.

 

This can be done in a very short time,

 

with only a few sentences.

 

Once that has been done,

 

the spiritual discussion will stop

 

if the aspirant is sincere and honest

 

and intensely wishes to bring

 

the ego notion to an end.

 

If the aspirant is not sincere and honest,

 

then instead of following the clear instructions,

 

the aspirant will find ways to fill the time.

 

Continued spiritual discussions is one of the many

 

millions of ways that the ego notion uses

 

to preserve itself.

 

The instruction by Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj is:

 

to pay attention to the sense of I AM

 

to the exclusion of all else.

 

Sri Ramana Maharshi's instruction is to inquire

 

'Who am I' continuously.

 

Their instructions are not to continue with

 

spiritual discussions,

 

not to do this, not to do that.

 

"My teacher told me to

 

hold on to the sense 'I am" tenaciously

 

and not to swerve from it even for a moment"

 

"I used to sit for hours together,

 

with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind"

 

If he had allowed himself to fill his time

 

with so many unnecessary activities,

 

he would never have had the "spare time"

 

to "sit for hours together".

 

He did not allow his mind to be filled with concepts,

 

to think, to pursue concepts,

 

not even spiritual concepts.

 

"with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind."

 

"I obeyed him, because I trusted him.

 

I did as he told me."

 

The following quotes are all by

 

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

 

and all from the book I AM THAT:

 

15. "I see what you too could see,

 

here and now,

 

but for the wrong focus of your attention.

 

You give no attention to your self.

 

Your mind is all with things, people, ideas,

 

never with your self.

 

Bring your self into focus,

 

become aware of your own existence."

 

"your mind is all with things, people and ideas"

 

this of course applies to spiritual ideas,

 

so just because he does not name posting at a

 

spiritual group, or thinking about spiritual ideas, or

 

 

whatever your escape, entertainment happens to be,

 

you can still make the application.

 

16. "What is supremely important is to be free

 

of contradictions:

 

the goal and the way must not be on different levels;

 

life and light must not quarrel;

 

behavior must not betray belief.

 

Call it honesty, integrity, wholeness;

 

you must not go back, undo, uproot,

 

abandon the conquered ground.

 

Tenacity of purpose and honesty in pursuit

 

will bring you to your goal."

 

17. "Take the first step first.

 

All blessings come from within.

 

Turn within.

 

'I am' you know.

 

Be with it all the time you can spare,

 

until you revert to it spontaneously.

 

There is no simpler and easier way."

 

18. "We know the outer world of sensations

 

and actions, but of our inner world of thoughts

 

and feelings we know very little.

 

The primary purpose of meditation is to

 

become conscious of, and familiar with,

 

our inner life.

 

The ultimate purpose is to reach the source of life

 

and consciousness.

 

Incidentally, practice of meditation affects

 

deeply our character.

 

We are slaves to what we do not know;

 

of what we know we are masters.

 

Whatever vice or weakness in ourselves

 

we discover and understand its causes

 

and its workings, we overcome it by the very knowing;

 

the unconscious dissolves

 

when brought into the conscious.

 

The dissolution of the unconscious releases energy;

 

the mind feels adequate and becomes quiet."

 

I could go on quoting Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj,

 

however you can read more than 200 quotes

 

on the importance of earnestness, eagerness,

 

practice, dedication, sincerity and specific

 

instructions on what the aspirant must do to be

 

liberated from the ego notion by clicking:

 

http://home.talkcity.com/GaiaWay/Infinite_Freedom/Nisargadatta.html.

 

One of the misconceptions about the

 

Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi is that he

 

encouraged methods other than Self-inquiry.

 

Sri Ramana Maharshi did not encourage methods

 

other than Self-Inquiry.

 

Sri Ramana Maharshi acknowledged that other methods

 

can lead to self-inquiry.

 

Sri Ramana Maharshi acknowledged that other methods

 

can be an aid to self-inquiry.

 

However Sri Ramana Maharshi made it clear that

 

aids are not required for self-inquiry.

 

If you read the entire book

 

"Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi"

 

very slowly from cover to cover,

 

and very carefully you will find that

 

Sri Ramana Maharshi did not initiate recommendations

 

of methods other than Self-inquiry.

 

The key here is the word initiate.

 

If someone asked Sri Ramana about

 

another path or method,

 

Sri Ramana would sometimes answer their question.

 

Usually, he would attempt to steer them

 

toward the path of Self-Inquiry instead.

 

If Sri Ramana was asked about Monkeys,

 

and if Sri Ramana kindly answered a question

 

about monkeys,

 

that does not mean that Sri Ramana

 

was recommending that thinking

 

about Monkeys was the way to liberation.

 

What it means,

 

is that the questioner asked about Monkeys,

 

and Sri Ramana kindly answered

 

a question about monkeys.

 

So it is with questions about ever so many other

 

paths, such as yoga, etc.

 

Here is the real key to seeing that Sri Ramana

 

did not encourage other methods:

 

Read the book "Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi"

 

cover to cover.

 

If you have read it before, read it again.

 

Take a look at what the questioner asked.

 

Look at every time a questioner

 

did not mention some method to

 

Sri Ramana Maharshi.

 

In other words, take a look at every time

 

a questioner asked what is the way to end the

 

ego-notion, or what is the way to end ignorance

 

and what is the way to be liberated etc.

 

and then count the number of times that

 

Sri Ramana Maharshi recommended some method

 

other than Self-inquiry.

 

Count the number of times when a questioner

 

just asks the way,

 

without suggesting a way to Sri Ramana,

 

and then see how many times

 

Sri Ramana recommends some method other than

 

Self-inquiry and how many times Sri Ramana

 

considering an aspirant unripe,

 

would say you need to do such and such before

 

you do self-inquiry.

 

That is the key to seeing that Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

did not encourage other methods.

 

Also it is the key to understanding that the

 

unripe aspirant is just a myth.

 

Unripe aspirant is just an aspirant who refuses

 

to practice self-inquiry.

 

The following is what I consider to be the most

 

valuable of anything written herein:

 

The intense desire for freedom is the most

 

important factor of all factors leading to the

 

end of the ego-notion.

 

It is the most important factor, because,

 

all flows from that, and without it,

 

nothing else is possible,

 

regarding ending the ego notion.

 

Why do people allow thought to distort the teachings,

 

instead of just following them as they are?

 

Did you notice that Sri Nisargadatta took his

 

Guru's teachings words literally,

 

without looking for any hidden meanings,

 

without analyzing them,

 

without changing them?

 

Just pay attention to the

 

'I AM' to the exclusion of all else.

 

He just did it.

 

He just took the instructions literally and did it.

 

If the desire for freedom is not intense enough,

 

then the ego-notion will begin to analyze the

 

instructions and the ego-notion will find a way

 

to distort the instructions.

 

If the desire for freedom is not great enough,

 

then the ego-notion will always find a way to

 

occupy time with something other than

 

spiritual practice.

 

Thus the key to bringing the ego notion to an end

 

is the intensity of the desire for freedom.

 

As Sri Ramana points out:

 

"eagerness to do it must be equal to that of a man

 

kept underwater trying to rise to the surface"

 

If the intense desire for freedom is not there,

 

you can always find a way to avoid practice.

 

There is no limit to

 

the ego-notions capacity to distort.

 

If there was a book written by a sage

 

that was one thousand pages and on every page

 

was written the following:

 

"Practice continually,

 

drop all unnecessary activities,

 

devote all your time to practice.

 

The practice is:

 

every time a thought arises,

 

ask 'to whom do these thoughts arise'

 

when the answer 'to me'

 

comes, ask who am I?"

 

If the above brief passage were written

 

on every page, almost no aspirant would ever

 

follow the advice given.

 

Why? Because the desire for liberation from the

 

ego-notion is not great enough.

 

The desire to preserve the ego-notion is much

 

greater than the desire to end the ego-notion.

 

Thus the ego-notion has millions of tricks to

 

preserve itself.

 

So in the above quoted passage,

 

the aspirant would say:

 

'Well he does not really mean

 

to practice continuously.

 

The book is actually written in code.

 

There are deeper meanings that are more important'

 

If this seems insane to you, it is.

 

And this describes well almost all aspirants.

 

It is not that they would use those exact words

 

to distort and complicate, however ,

 

they will find thier own words

 

and thoughts to distort and complicate.

 

The only cure for all this is

 

the intense desire for freedom.

 

What if your present desire for freedom were to become

 

 

a million times more intense than it is now?

 

Then there would not be time for all these games

 

and distractions.

 

Then you would stop listening to Teachers

 

who are supposedly liberated

 

who are not liberated.

 

Then you would not confuse thinking about Spirituality

 

with Spirituality.

 

Then you would not confuse an intellectual journey,

 

with a spiritual journey.

 

Thought created the world appearance etc.,

 

therefore of course it is powerful enough

 

to create phony "spiritual" experiences.

 

Then the only means you would accept

 

would be the most direct one.

 

Then you would be just like the man who

 

is being kept under water trying to rise up for air.

 

He does not have time for discussion,

 

or for games,

 

or for false teachers,

 

or for indirect methods.

 

That is why the entire key lies in

 

the intensity of the desire for freedom.

 

The question then becomes:

 

Is there anything that can be done that will

 

increase the desire for freedom?

 

How can I take my present desire for freedom

 

and make it a million times what it is now?

 

There is a way.

 

The way is to face all that is

 

horrible, sorrowful, evil, vicious, horrendous

 

about human consciousness and life on earth.

 

Normally humans block out 99.99% of this.

 

Yet they think they have faced it.

 

For example take a look at what 15,000 wars

 

in the last 5,000 years means.

 

Think about what one of those

 

individuals went through.

 

Think about it in detail.

 

Then multiply it times millions of individuals.

 

Or a few years ago in Africa.

 

400,000 - 700,000 people were killed by other

 

people with machetes, etc.

 

Think what one individual went through.

 

Then multiply it times 400,000.

 

Don't just see a number 400,000.

 

Look at what happened to each of those people

 

Look at millions of women being beaten everyday.

 

Look at all the diseases that come

 

to the human body.

 

Look at the millions and millions of homicides.

 

Realize in the above list, including

 

15,000 wars in the last five thousand years

 

that you have only touched upon

 

one trillionth of 1% of

 

human suffering, sorrow, evil, viciousness,

 

horror.

 

Look at millions of jews being placed into ovens.

 

Think what each individual went through.

 

This helps some to face it,

 

but this still is not really facing it.

 

On public television I saw a documentary.

 

They interviewed a barber.

 

He was a jew in a concentration camp in Nazi Germany.

 

Later his wife was brought into the same camp.

 

He was a barber in the camp.

 

That is why he was not put into the gas chamber

 

and the oven, because he had a job as a barber.

 

So he would cut the hair of the other jews

 

who had been captured.

 

On their way to be put into the gas chamber

 

and the oven they would stop

 

and get a hair cut from him.

 

His wife was later captured.

 

So his wife was brought in

 

to receive a hair cut by him.

 

So he was cutting his wife's hair.

 

He knew what was going to happen to his wife.

 

He knew that she was going to be gassed

 

and cremated.

 

However he could not tell her.

 

If he told her, he would have been killed.

 

And she still would have been killed also.

 

Therefore, it would have served no purpose.

 

So while he was cutting her hair,

 

he could not tell her what was going happen.

 

The barber, was crying as he told this story.

 

This is one man.

 

Now multiply it by six million.

 

Now see that is only a part of the horror of

 

one war.

 

Now multiply it by 15,000 wars in the last

 

5,000 years.

 

Now see that all those 15,000 wars are only

 

a tiny drop in the vast ocean of human

 

viciousness, suffering, sorrow, lies, horror,

 

deceit, conning, hustling, cheating, disease, death.

 

Yes, it is true you have all heard about the

 

six million jews being killed by various means.

 

However, the way humans hide from

 

what human consciousness really is,

 

from what so called life really is,

 

is by isolating each incident.

 

As though the genocide of six million jews

 

were some kind of isolated incident.

 

You look at a single war.

 

What about looking at the totality of the

 

human horror, the human sorrow, the human evil,

 

the human viciousness?

 

15,000 wars in the last 5,000 years.

 

Right up to the present time.

 

First think what one individual went through,

 

then see that it was millions of people

 

who went through this.

 

Human evil, viciousness, horror, suffering,

 

sorrow is not something isolated.

 

Billions of people are lying to each other and

 

themselves every day.

 

Cheating, conning, hustling.

 

The list above represents only a tiny

 

portion of human suffering, sorrow,

 

viciousness, evil.

 

If someone were to write a book,

 

on human suffering, sorrow, lies, viciousness,

 

evil, and begin to collect the numbers,

 

and to create a huge list,

 

so that it could be seen as a whole,

 

this would be one of the most valuable books

 

ever written.

 

I don't know if I will ever write it because

 

even writing this is a complete violation

 

because this time could have been spent

 

in Self-inquiry.

 

Seeing it on film helps one to face it also.

 

The Buddha's first noble Truth was

 

the existence of suffering.

 

A person might wonder how can that be

 

a noble truth?

 

Don't we all know about suffering?

 

Yes every human knows about suffering.

 

It is just that humans block out 99.99% of suffering.

 

One must face all of it to really see it.

 

Buddha's list was so short,

 

such as losing someone you love,

 

not getting what you want,

 

disease and death, etc.

 

that almost no one saw it from such a short list.

 

How valuable it would be if someone

 

would write the history of human evil.

 

Make the huge list, with thousands of pages.

 

With lots of photographs.

 

If you ever are willing to look at the negative

 

side of human life, and really face it,

 

not just a tiny bit of it, as almost all humans

 

do, but if you really face it you will see

 

that human consciousness is 100% evil.

 

The earth is a hell,

 

produced by human consciousness.

 

Human consciousness is produced by the ego-notion.

 

What caused every one of those jews to be gassed

 

and put into ovens is the ego-notion.

 

You have the ego-notion in you.

 

You have the source of all horror,

 

all viciousness, all evil, all suffering

 

and all sorrow in you.

 

There are ever so many mechanisms

 

the ego-notion has created so that

 

one will not see the horror that it is.

 

Escape, thinking, entertainment and on and on.

 

The ego-notion killed all the millions of people

 

who died in those thousands of wars.

 

The ego-notion tells all the lies.

 

The ego-notion beats the women.

 

The ego-notion has committed all the murders.

 

The ego-notion has created all the hustling,

 

conning and cheating.

 

The ego-notion creates the 'I am the body' notion,

 

and thus creates death.

 

You have the ego-notion in you now.

 

You have what put 6 million jews in the ovens

 

in you now.

 

You have what made hundreds of thousands of people

 

get hacked to death by machete in you now.

 

Why not stop playing games and get rid of it?

 

That is what this whole page is about.

 

Stop seeing false teachers,

 

stop using false methods.

 

Find the direct path and devote every moment to it.

 

How can you even think you might have integrity?

 

You play all these spiritual games

 

instead of permanently ending the ego-notion.

 

You tolerate having an ego-notion in you

 

that killed six-million jews and created

 

15,000 wars and you think you have integrity?

 

It is possible to have integrity, honesty.

 

Face the total horror

 

that humans almost never face.

 

Not just a part of it, face all of it.

 

Then the intense desire to be free comes.

 

Then every time a thought arises ask:

 

'to whom do these thoughts arise'

 

when the answer 'to me' comes ask:

 

'who am I?'

 

Continuously, from the time you wake up

 

to the time you go to sleep.

 

Until the ego-notion is dead and gone

 

permanently forever.

 

Don't be fooled into a false sense of liberation.

 

When the ego-notion is dead:

 

desire, suffering, and the perception of a body

 

and a world are gone.

 

If you still have even one desire,

 

or even a tiny amount of sorrow or suffering

 

or if you still perceive a body or a world,

 

you are not liberated.

 

A doubt may arise didn't Sri Ramana have a body etc.?

 

Those doubts have been covered at this site:

 

http://home.talkcity.com/GaiaWay/Infinite_Freedom/DISCERNMENT.htm

 

This page is really best read at that site

 

because all of that web page has been devoted to

 

a single purpose.

 

The ego notion can easily doubt what has been written

 

here. Thought can doubt anything.

 

See it for the ego-notion preservation strategy

 

that it is.

 

Drop all the ego-notion preservation strategies.

 

For those of you who make postings in reply

 

to postings I have made,

 

this posting should make clear why I do not reply.

 

With Love,

 

uarelove

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Uarelove,

 

I appreciate your taking my consideration

of your page as "open-minded".

 

It is clear that there is nothing to think about.

 

Indeed -- to confuse things so as to later

give oneself credit for clearing

up the confusion is not a task

worthy of self-congratulation!

 

Namaste ;-)

 

Love,

Dan