Guest guest Posted January 26, 2001 Report Share Posted January 26, 2001 Hi Jerry, > My sentiments are similar to those eloquently expressed by Gloria, > ie, that the nature of the *cause* of a spiritual experience isn't the > most important factor in *evaluating* said experience. l've never done > drugs myself (beyond occasional marijuana use eons ago) but it's been well > documented by Grof and others that they can open the door to religious > experience. I think, for me, the most important factor is the resulting change in beliefs and behaviour. (As someone said recently on this list, what comes out of a person is more important than what goes in.) For me, right now, that's kind of hard to evaluate, but I'm sure there are going to be some positive effects. > l think it's also been > pretty well established that the important thing has been how well > prepared the individual is in every way to integrate any such experience. > l don't know if you've read the story of Bhagavan Das, who was somewhat of > a mentor to Ram Dass in lndia in the 60's. BD had every sort of > enlightening experience imaginable -- his book makes great reading -- but > after having all of these experiences he still fell completely off the > path for many years. lt was as if he'd never even had the experiences. He > hadn't integrated them at all. Not that this applies to you at all, ha ha, > and you already know all this -- just throwing it in. I haven't read that book -- sounds very interesting, and probably instructive in the sense of 'here's how *not* to do it'. > l'm glad you're writing about your k > experience. One of the major reasons l stay on these lists is because my k > saga is still an ongoing, day to day affair, in which l feel anything > could happen at any time. And l know from past experience that it can be > traumatizing and confusing. A list such as this should be available as a > source of info and support at such times, and you certainly have my full > fledged support. Thank you for your compassion. My feelings have been up and down like a roller-coaster these past few days, and physically I'm very tired, so it's wonderful to feel that other people understand. love gill ps I've just been reading about your zen garden. It's beautiful. > love from Mt > Kailash, jerrysan > rinpoche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2001 Report Share Posted January 26, 2001 Hello, Which book by Bhagavan Das should you suggest ? Greetings from France, Jacques Jacques De Schryver et Linda Steven http://jdsetls.virtualave.net/Kundalini/kundalini.html http://members.xoom.fr/jdsetls/ http://www.shuttercity.com/ShowGallery.cfm?AcctID=797 Site de Linda : http://www.multimania.com/lsteven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2001 Report Share Posted January 26, 2001 Hello, Thank you Jerrysan. I just ordered it at Powells.com They have a few different books still available from the same author. Greetings from France, Jacques nb : I put some funny photo today on : http://www.shuttercity.com/ShowPhoto.cfm?PhotoID=12516 I like this site. Jacques De Schryver et Linda Steven http://jdsetls.virtualave.net/Kundalini/kundalini.html http://members.xoom.fr/jdsetls/ http://www.shuttercity.com/ShowGallery.cfm?AcctID=797 Site de Linda : http://www.multimania.com/lsteven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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