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In a message dated 1/31/01 4:30:08 AM Mountain Standard Time,

coresite writes:

 

<< Is this the state of things? That "even archrivals" can offer support...

probably mostly out of fear that they would need the same support, should

an earthquake hit THEM... >>

 

Tim, you reminded me of some events that happened in Los Angeles not too long

ago. The uprisings of '92, as some may recall, were devastating to the whole

city, but particularly to the residents of South-Central, a poorer section of

town. There was some humane response from the wealthier parts of town,

including "the Valley," but many (white) people were afraid to go down to

South-Central to help in person, because of racial tension. Over time,

progress was made in relations, particularly through church and temple

outreach. Two years later, we in the Valley suffered the Northridge

earthquake. The response from South-Central was immediate, with blankets and

food and water. To over-generalize a bit, it was the poor donating time and

love to the rich, and doing a better job of it. When we are unable to open

our hearts and give, I don't think it is because we are bad people -- we are

just scared and have forgotten how.

 

Holly

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 03:27:44

Tim Gerchmez wrote:

>Dearest friends... why does it take a disaster killing thousands, to bring

>people together? When I read that Pakistan had offered support, only now

>tears came into my eyes.

>

>Is this the state of things? That "even archrivals" can offer support...

>probably mostly out of fear that they would need the same support, should

>an earthquake hit THEM...

>

>Think about that. The earthquake itself... just an event. The deaths...

>it has happened before, and was not preventable. But the hatred and

>rivalry, that is worth shedding large tears. *THAT* is preventable, and

>that is not being prevented.

 

Perhaps adding to the sadness, I hear rumors that India did not accept the offer

of help from Pakistan, them being archrivals... I hope this rumor is not

correct or that the government changed their mind on the issue and accepted help

from Pakistan as well.

 

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Tim,

I agree and I think this behavior stems from the fundamental premise

we have adopted of individuality. What is this self, but the defenses we've

put in place to defend it? When a natural disaster comes along, while there

is pain, there is also, I believe a sense of relief at having something

concrete to defend our selves against. When we are living comfortably,

having solved the main problems of existence after millions of years of

struggle to do so, our drive to solve the main problems of existence kicks

in and we create enemies to defend ourselves from.

Well, that's how it looks from here.

Love, Mark

Tim Gerchmez wrote:

Dear List...

Up until now I (naturally) felt this whole earthquake disaster was

very

sad. But until I read the following from the American Red

Cross website

(the last sentence), there were no tears in my eyes:

---------------

Help already has been offered from around the globe, including

assistance

from the United States, which is sending a seven-member disaster

response

team and pledged some $5 million in aid. Teams from Switzerland,

Britain,

Russia and Israel already have arrived. Even India's archrival

Pakistan has

offered support.

---------------

Dearest friends... why does it take a disaster killing thousands,

to bring

people together? When I read that Pakistan had offered support,

only now

tears came into my eyes.

Is this the state of things? That "even archrivals" can offer

support...

probably mostly out of fear that they would need the same support,

should

an earthquake hit THEM...

Think about that. The earthquake itself... just an event.

The deaths...

it has happened before, and was not preventable. But the

hatred and

rivalry, that is worth shedding large tears. *THAT* is preventable,

and

that is not being prevented.

With great sadness,

Tim

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