Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:23:09 Wim Borsboom wrote: >Tim, hi > >Why not just trying to understand what I wrote? You don't even give yourself >half a chance. :-) > >Why am I so stubborn here, if I am stubborn at all? >Attachment to my point of view? > >I know already what you say, but I'm trying to talk you out of it. >I know already that confusion (which seems clear to you) comes from and >leads to suffering... > >But we need to pass humour 101 as well. Hmmm.... Wim, I rather think Tim / Omkara has stopped listening to you and participating in this discussion. But it's up to you if you want to continue it of course. Also, last time we had a list members being a little too eager to talk about their sex lives and show off their cool by swearing, the moderators deemed those behavior modes bad form for the list. So Tim and Wim, please keep the swearing and the sex lives a secret for the rest of us, hm ? We try to have some style in here and take ourselves as seriously as possible befitting our status as enlightened advaitins. Love, Amanda. Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 Dear Amanda, You wrote: > Hmmm.... Wim, I rather think Tim / Omkara has > stopped listening to you and participating in this discussion. > But it's up to you if you want to continue it of course. Appreciated, that about listening may be true, but what do we know at this point? I will not try to make up Tim's mind. He may have stopped answering... but listening is a totally different matter, there are different ways of participation as our appreciated lurkers attest to... > So Tim and Wim, please keep the swearing and > the sex lives a secret for the rest of us, hm ? > We try to have some style in here and take ourselves > as seriously as possible befitting > our status as enlightened advaitins. An advaitin or non-dualist I am not, I am Wim who appreciates Ramana Maharshi very much, especially his silence when certain subjects were broached... This though is email.... (try to do that in without words :-) I am not afraid of some well meant duelling, that is fun, a kind of egroup martial arts maybe, sure it can be boisterous but there is no breakable furniture or glassware around. And... and... and... and... status (?) that is not what we aim for... or is it? :-) Anyway, the two of us did not swear, except maybe for the word "Hell" that was used once. The sex life part, of course, I see what you mean, but then a Satsangh could allow a bit of openness. Why not? Are we not whole human beings, nothing wrong with sexuality, last time I asked my mom. That is why I answered to that in a humorous vein. What Tim does with all this is OK with me. He is a strong enough person who can handle me, and he will also handle a few of the things I threw at him... in some serious jest... When I was 24, I was at an important art exhibition opening, (sculpting being my artistic endeavour) and out of the blue came a gentleman who had some seriously harsh words for me... Those words did not make any sense to me at all because I happened to be in the counteractive, recalcitrant mode... I withdrew to the Museum Gardens and let my reactionary behaviour subside... All of a sudden, I saw what he meant... I never saw that man again... He was my greatest teacher though. Not that I claim or aim to be such a person for Tim... That depends totally on him. I have no influence on that... I might even be a bastardly "bleh blah bloh" guy. However, I hope that Tim will be a bit more observant with language... Language, the greatest invention since we became human beings... it has to be safeguarded... (you do it your way by sending this note). I do it my way, so far the only way I know... but there is hope for me... I hope... Most misunderstanding indeed, comes from misuse and abuse of language. So Amanda, thanks for your note... Love, Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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