Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Dear Jan, Admittedly this is purely a matter of curiosity (and perhaps some ignorance here of nutrients contained in fruits/vegetables)... But anyway, I'm wondering how you get a reasonable amount of protein with your diet? Specifically I can see where everything else comes from (fiber, vitamins, minerals, carbohydrates) but I don't see what the source of protein is. Anyway, it must be coming from somewhere if you've been on this diet since 1989, but curious to know which fruits/vegetables supply proteins in the correct quantities and balances for health (a notoriously difficult balance to maintain with a vegetarian diet). I thought you did mention legumes - beans (it may have been Harsha) -- if so that probably answers the question. Namaste, Tim , "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote: > Yes, I started with raw food in 1989 and for me is was a great improvement over the cooked food diet. Pranayama stopped being an issue some 30 years ago, then its contribution was noticeable, since then its influence no longer could be noticed. In Belgium, sprouting was easy and sometimes it was done, but here, the climate is much warmer and molds can grow faster than the sprouts... Almonds are abundant and sometimes I pick a few... The avocados are occasional too - btw thanks for the reminder, I've got to send a friend a few pips for her garden - that means eating a few first > > Yogi Gupta is right regarding the sprouts: they are high in life- energy and lower in calories than fruit... But in my case, the life- energy wouldn't make the least difference and as one of the > few habits left is hiking (demanding a lot of calories), fruits are the "better" food... > > Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2001 Report Share Posted February 5, 2001 Hi Tim, One explanation I've read is that what is given in tables as the protein content isn't the full story: fruits are containing amino acids and they're not listed. I've never checked the validity though and in a well equipped lab for biochemistry it could be measured in minutes... Then, there is the phenomenon of alkaline surplus, and that decreases the need for protein substantially, as compared to a diet, resulting in an acidic surplus... Still another reason is that proteins can be recycled in the body - and that requires a healthy liver. If this is suggestive of something circular, it probably is, as several people cannot make the "jump" at one go, but have to resort to transitional diets. In a sense that went for me too, the first months preparing a salad once a day, with an addition of freshly made flakes from cereal. With concentrated form's of protein, like nuts and beans, I'm careful: sprouted, the protein content still is high, but it's much easier to digest. The "proof of the pudding" of course is both how one feels and performs physically and in that respect, I can't complain Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 Tim, > But anyway, I'm wondering how you get a reasonable amount of protein > with your diet? Specifically I can see where everything else comes > from (fiber, vitamins, minerals, carbohydrates) but I don't see what > the source of protein is. Fruit has protein. Lettuce have protein. Nuts and seeds have protein. Come to think of it, everything in the plant kingdom has protein. Lots of it. The more important question is, how can non-vegetarians keep their excess protein intake down? Overconsumption of protein contributes to diseases such as arthritis, pyorrhea, schizophrenia, atherosclerosis, heart disease, osteoporosis, cancer and kidney damage. > > Anyway, it must be coming from somewhere if you've been on this diet > since 1989, but curious to know which fruits/vegetables supply > proteins in the correct quantities and balances for health (a > notoriously difficult balance to maintain with a vegetarian diet). Not so. Of course, there are all kinds of vegetarian diets. Some vegetarians may live on burritos, corn chips and twinkies. Needless to say, that doesn't work too well. If a vegetarian is worried about protein, they can just eat more nuts and seeds. Or make them into nut and seed milks, which are delicious. Kelvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 M.K. Hovila [hovila] Not so. Of course, there are all kinds of vegetarian diets. Some vegetarians may live on burritos, corn chips and twinkies. Needless to say, that doesn't work too well. If a vegetarian is worried about protein, they can just eat more nuts and seeds. Or make them into nut and seed milks, which are delicious. Kelvin Its a good point that vegetarian diets based on buritos, corn chips, potato chips and Twinkies are not optimal. For those interested the government has data available for amino acid contents for fruits and vegetables. Surprisingly most fruits and vegetables have all or most of the amino acids but in much smaller quantity. That table can be found on Netrition.com, if I recall. By the way Kelvin, what made you change your name from Mark to Kelvin? Is this like Timji going to Omkara? Just curious. Love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 Harsha, > By the way Kelvin, what made you change your name from Mark to Kelvin? Is > this like Timji going to Omkara? Just curious. For now I am only using the name on my e-mail groups. Kelvin is my middle name and I have thought for many years about using it instead of the more commonplace "Mark." It flows better with my last name, for one thing. Maybe I will use it in "real life" someday, maybe not. It also helps to avoid confusion with other Marks on these lists. Kelvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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