Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 Wim wrote: Unless you run away, we will keep running into each other... ******* Wim, Can you see that stripe running down my back? It's yellow! Adios! Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 Hi Judi, You wrote: > Can you see that stripe running down my back? > It's yellow! I can only see it when turn your back to me. I'm in front of you, not after you. :-) About language, I am not stupid and can figure things out. I do not intend to downplay the usefulness of similes, metaphors and colloquialisms. In themselves they are not the point. In the exchanges that Judi and I have had on her list there has hardly been a normal sentence without a second hand metaphor. Virtually no direct personal language. (Greg, if Judi needs a go-between between her and her ex, you will have a job for life translating the double entendres.) (Judi, you are still not over that failed relationship.) Why having to figure out each other's communications when there does not have to be a problem in that respect. When there is direct communication there is no continuous need to second guess. Intentions become way clearer and maybe at some point one will see truth in the other instead of setting the other up as a sparring partner... When can you stop cloaking straightforward-ness with riddles that you can still wriggle yourself out of? Love you, Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 I can only see it when turn your back to me. I'm in front of you, not after you. :-) ****** .....and he turned his back and said "I know them not." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 Dear Judi, We wrote to each other: Wim: > I can only see it when *turn your back to me*...... Judi: > ....and he *turned his back* and said "I know them not." Word association (as you are showing a good example of) is an excellent way of finding out where there are engrams (brain mass 'engraved' charged sentences or words) that point to moments of unresolved grief or grieving. > When the phone doesn't ring, you'll know it's me. > Yes, the silence of the broken heart tells all. Greg added: > If you've ever been spurned by a lover, > or been in an unrequited love affair, > you'll know how "on the mark" this way of > expression is. Interesting that Judi's invitation to join the Ranch list turned into a linked set of sentences that have to do with the difficulty of conditional and unconditional love. Love, Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 Dear Judi, We wrote to each other: Wim: > I can only see it when *turn your back to me*...... Judi: > ....and he *turned his back* and said "I know them not." Word association (as you are showing a good example of) is an excellent way of finding out where there are engrams (brain mass 'engraved' charged sentences or words) that point to moments of unresolved grief or grieving. ****** It never gets "resolved" Wim, but "dissolved." Love is not about winning, never was, never will be. Think about it like this - it wouldn't be love if it was now would it? Duh! Seriously, what did you think love was? Where you get to ride around the victor or something? Hardly. Think again! > When the phone doesn't ring, you'll know it's me. > Yes, the silence of the broken heart tells all. Greg added: > If you've ever been spurned by a lover, > or been in an unrequited love affair, > you'll know how "on the mark" this way of > expression is. Interesting that Judi's invitation to join the Ranch list turned into a linked set of sentences that have to do with the difficulty of conditional and unconditional love. ***** It's not difficult Wim, it's impossible! Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 In a message dated 04/20/2001 9:52:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, aurasphere writes: << Hi Every-One Ah words, why do we have to rely on them so much? In light of some remarks about plagiarism. At some point I had to write Anunda to ask for acknowledgement of material that was copied from me on some the Anunda web pages. The owner of that site did so, no problem. It could be that the same happened before with other people's material, I am sure it can be sorted out. Even though it is important to get that sorted out as indeed it is important to list sources, what is more important is to see truth in the words first, that first..., none of us owns wisdom, if we could... it would not be wisdom. Be gentle on each other and enjoy seeing fellow beings move forward... maybe chewing on other people's words... at least they are chewing them... Notice the subject line of this post, I don't know who started this thread... but that is what this is about... When it comes down to it, eventually we all know the same words, initially we all understand them differently, which is the difficulty of communication, but when one applies the words (it is too bad that it had to come to that) one finds out which combination of words have unifying power, because they are not just words, they are "logos" and which ones tear us apart. >> Wim....words are words...unless they come from the heart....With all the experience you have claimed, you of all people, should know that. And yes, there is a common thread, a common flow to words that come from the universal mind, however...that flow can be seen and felt. It can also be seen and felt when the source is purely ego. When the words are used, not just one time, but repeatedly in the form of plagiarism, for recognition and to strengthen the ego...and are encouraged in that way....then this will cause the self more harm....The plagiarism I am speaking of is not limited to this one incident today....It has been ongoing on this list as well as others. This is the greatest offense one can do to their self. With all the experience you claim to have,Wim, you of all people should know that masking this type of action causes more harm than anything else. Norma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 Dear Norma, You wrote: > With all the experience you claim to have,Wim, you of all people should know > that masking this type of action causes more harm than anything else. I did not condone or suggest masking, I suggested to sort it out. > Wim....words are words...unless they come from the heart.... > however... that flow can be seen and felt. > It can also be seen and felt when the source is purely ego. Very hard to tell, I always notice that whenever this 'ego' topic comes up that nobody talks from the heart anymore... so this discussion by itself is already harmful We better pick up a thread somewhere else... Are some matters of the heart underlying all this? Love, Wim --------------- I wrote: > In light of some remarks about plagiarism. > At some point I had to write Anunda to ask for acknowledgement of material > that was copied from me on some Anunda web pages. The owner of that site > did so, no problem. It could be that the same happened before with other > people's material, I am sure it can be sorted out. > Even though it is important to get that sorted out as indeed it is important > to list sources, what is more important is to see truth in the words first, > that first..., none of us owns wisdom, if we could... it would not be > wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 <Very hard to tell, I always notice that whenever this 'ego' topic comes up that nobody talks from the heart anymore... so this discussion by itself is already harmful>> How is it harmful, Wim?....Words from the heart depict compassion....and compassion can be in many forms..but it never masks truth.....And the energy on this list will gain momentum more from compassion than false beliefs....Having a problem pointed out, whether by oneself or another, is one of the greatest gifts in the world... Norma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 With all the experience you claim to have,Wim, you of all people should know that masking this type of action causes more harm than anything else. Perhaps Norma you fail to realize, Wim has my ear... And has supported me in claiming my voice... And has encouraged me to step forward and express my truth... He knows where I am at, and where I've been, and he knows where I'm going... Love, Lynette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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