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is not thinking something

is not contemplating something

is not doing something

is not feeling something

is not attaining something

 

HAHAHAH and HOHOHO!

 

Peace - Michael

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Wonderful quote from Ramana, Vicky:

> Mind in purity is the Self.

While understanding and grasping this, let us not overlook that

contemporary western connotations around 'mind' and 'self' are

different from oriental meanings.

It is important to realize that *conceptual* mind and *conceptual*

self evolve mutually form universal, unconditional love.... in the

sense that mind and self are *conceived* by love...

Love, again, western and eastern understandings differ. I have a

feeling that the western one is a bit more worked out that the

oriental... Socrates (etc.) and Jesus (etc.) had a hand in that...

This would be worth studying deeply...

Love, Wim

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>> If you meditate for an hour or two every day you

can then carry on with your duties. If you

meditate in the right manner then the current

of mind induced will continue to flow even in the

midst of your work. It is as though there were two ways of

expressing the same idea; the same line which you take in

meditation will be expressed in your activities...As you go on

you will find

that your attitude towards people, events and objects

gradually changes. Your actions will tend to follow your

meditations of their own accord. <<

Hi Victoria ~ others have thanked you for posting Ramana's own words,

and now I add my voice to theirs. Reading what he had to say adds

much clarity to what sometimes seems to be confusing or contradictory

here in the digest, not to mention out in the world. Shanti ~ Linda

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>> If you meditate for an hour or two every day you can then carry

on with your duties. If you meditate in the right manner then the

current of mind induced will continue to flow even in the

midst of your work. It is as though there were two ways of

expressing the same idea; the same line which you take in

meditation will be expressed in your activities...As you go on

you will find

that your attitude towards people, events and objects

gradually changes. Your actions will tend to follow your

meditations of their own accord. <<

Hi Victoria ~ others have thanked you for posting Ramana's own words,

and now I add my voice to theirs. Reading what he had to say adds

much clarity to what sometimes seems to be confusing or contradictory

here in the digest, not to mention out in the world. Shanti ~ Linda

Hello all,

It is still important to remember, that even words quoted from famous

gurus and people, and quotes from renowned books, such as the bible

and others, are still words, perceptions, theories, ideas, written

and spoken words of humans just like you and I.. If something gives

you clarity and peace, then that something works for you.. Yet, what

might work for one may not work for another.

I do not have a daily schedule of meditation, I do not know mantras,

and have never read the book from which Victoria quotes from daily,

have never sat and listened to a guru, nor was I raised in any kind

of environment that does any of these things, and

yet..................the voice of truth still speaks to me....

life, love, truth, bliss, joy, all these things come to the many

faces, in many ways.......... one needs not change who they are to

hear the voice... one only needs to listen.

With love

~~~~~With Delight~~~~~

~~Upon the Waves of Life ~~

~~~~~Yours Truly~~~~~~

~~~~~~Lynette~~~~~~~

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.......... one needs not change who they are to hear the voice... one

only needs to listen.

 

Lynette,

 

More wisdom in fewer words has seldom been spoken here.

 

If only we could enshrine this over the entrance to satsangh....

 

Love,

Gloria

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I am sort of lonely now banned across

all the nondual forums

 

<grin>

 

what hurts me that from the meditation

club I got chased away also, a subject

I take very seriously, belive in and

know volumes about by people who don't

meditate

 

god knows whats the lesson in this

 

heh

> > Your speech patterns are very charming (especially when you get

> > mad). Keep up the good work. Get mad at those that infect others

> > with fear!

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Hi Karta love,

 

Could it be you get kicked out because that's what you want?

Because you wear each of those bannings like a medal,

because you enjoy all the attention?

Just a wild guess.

 

Pete

 

, "Era" <satkarta7@j...> wrote:

> I am sort of lonely now banned across

> all the nondual forums

>

> <grin>

>

> what hurts me that from the meditation

> club I got chased away also, a subject

> I take very seriously, belive in and

> know volumes about by people who don't

> meditate

>

> god knows whats the lesson in this

>

> heh

>

> > > Your speech patterns are very charming (especially when you get

> > > mad). Keep up the good work. Get mad at those that infect

others

> > > with fear!

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, "Era" <satkarta7@j...> wrote:

> I am sort of lonely now banned across

> all the nondual forums

>

> <grin>

>

> what hurts me that from the meditation

> club I got chased away also, a subject

> I take very seriously, belive in and

> know volumes about by people who don't

> meditate

>

> god knows whats the lesson in this

>

> heh

>

> > > Your speech patterns are very charming (especially when you get

> > > mad). Keep up the good work. Get mad at those that infect

others

> > > with fear!

 

Yes i am lucky. The good thing about meditation is that you dont

need to be a member of a club.

 

I am glad we had a chance to chat. Stay pretty.

Love

Bobby G.

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hello Pete,

 

"seesaw1us" <petesie@m...> wrote:

> Hi Karta love,

>

> Could it be you get kicked out because that's what you want?

> Because you wear each of those bannings like a medal,

 

no, I belong to NDS: I honestly want to

lean nonduality with the ones who are

doing the same, I got banned due to a

stupid missunderstanding

 

its no medal for me

 

meditation club was also my 'home'

taken over by..¿ I better not say..

 

> because you enjoy all the attention?

> Just a wild guess.

 

 

f'k NO!

>

> Pete

>

 

ohmigod! Pete!!

 

I am a feminist and I was shocked to

my core to witness the reactions to karta

from an off base emotional opinionated

gueee; loosing site of the ball, of the topic,

of the theme and subject of my fights

with the self-appointed ego-creation

androids

 

[karta is also a phantom a warrior

lioness ain't "me"]

 

M., one my idols stated this same

seeking attaention thringy and I thought

of her of being mutated by a feminine though-patternL the peacock behavior=

 

needed by females to get noticed

 

oh!

 

back than you understood that karta is

on a mission

 

why would 'I' be needing attention ?

 

from whom?

 

-understanding encouragement

friendship, advise, sharing yes

 

 

 

"Era" <satkarta7@j...> wrote:

> > I am sort of lonely now banned across

> > all the nondual forums

> >

> > <grin>

> >

> > what hurts me that from the meditation

> > club I got chased away also, a subject

> > I take very seriously, belive in and

> > know volumes about by people who don't

> > meditate

> >

> > god knows whats the lesson in this

> >

> > heh

> >

> > > > Your speech patterns are very charming (especially when you get

> > > > mad). Keep up the good work. Get mad at those that infect

> others

> > > > with fear!

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Dear Era,

 

At some point the spiritual life becomes a "lonely

thing". That is because there is only ONE BEING.

 

When others don't love you, you can always love

yourSELF. And as long as you do love yourSELF then

the approval of others isn't necessary.

 

michael

 

--- Era <satkarta7 wrote:

> I am sort of lonely now banned across

> all the nondual forums

>

> <grin>

>

> what hurts me that from the meditation

> club I got chased away also, a subject

> I take very seriously, belive in and

> know volumes about by people who don't

> meditate

>

> god knows whats the lesson in this

>

> heh

>

> > > Your speech patterns are very charming

> (especially when you get

> > > mad). Keep up the good work. Get mad at those

> that infect others

> > > with fear!

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Era,

all the love to you - please try to understand and to accept the

following truth (experienced by myself!)

only after being ready to love yourself as "you" are - and not as

others want you to be - are you ready for real love, ready for

understanding love, ready for loving the real way.

Loving yourself is necessary to being able n o t to make a

business out of sentimental love...

I give you this and you give that...

and.....

how can you love the Almighty (in whatever form and so on...) if you cant love yourself?????

If you are not for yourself

who will be?

And if not now

when?

old very very old jewish wisdom

so never give up

start now being nice to you!

All the best from tuscany

Michael

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>Re: Re:

meditation >Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:09:10 -0800 (PST) > >Dear Era,

> >At some point the spiritual life becomes a "lonely >thing". That

is because there is only ONE BEING. > >When others don't love you,

you can always love >yourSELF. And as long as you do love yourSELF

then >the approval of others isn't necessary. > >michael > >--- Era

wrote: > > I am sort of lonely now banned across > > all the nondual

forums > > > >

> > > > what hurts me that from the meditation > > club I got chased

away also, a subject > > I take very seriously, belive in and > >

know volumes about by people who don't > > meditate > > > > god knows

whats the lesson in this > > > > heh > > > > > > Your speech patterns

are very charming > > (especially when you get > > > > mad). Keep up

the good work. Get mad at those > > that infect others > > > > with

fear! > > > > > > > > > >Do you

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, Michael Bowes <rmichaelbowes> wrote:

> Dear Era,

>

> At some point the spiritual life becomes a "lonely

> thing". That is because there is only ONE BEING.

>

> When others don't love you, you can always love

> yourSELF. And as long as you do love yourSELF then

> the approval of others isn't necessary.

>

 

 

yes, must be true, thank you

 

 

> michael

>

> --- Era <satkarta7@j...> wrote:

> > I am sort of lonely now banned across

> > all the nondual forums

> >

> > <grin>

> >

> > what hurts me that from the meditation

> > club I got chased away also, a subject

> > I take very seriously, belive in and

> > know volumes about by people who don't

> > meditate

> >

> > god knows whats the lesson in this

> >

> > heh

> >

> > > > Your speech patterns are very charming

> > (especially when you get

> > > > mad). Keep up the good work. Get mad at those

> > that infect others

> > > > with fear!

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