Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 Hi Harsha, Thank you for this grounding message. Since coming to the Internet, I've been interested in nonduality as a movement. Your grounding message goes beyond trends and movements and points to what's eternal. Love, Jerry http://www.nonduality.com Harsha wrote: > Thanks for your message Jerry. Advaita (Nonduality) is revitalized in every > generation by the Sages who live in Awareness. > > You speculated that Nonduality at some point would become a religion. It > might be true but Advaita (Nonduality as practiced in India) has never been > really a religion, although it has that religious orientation. Advaita is > essentially viewed as one of the philosophical systems within the Hindu > religion that has its origins in the Vedas (Upanishads) which according to > historical accounts were written about 3000 to 4000 years ago. > > The themes of Nonduality can also be found in Buddhism and even in > Christianity in a variety of ways and although I am not a religious scholar > many experienced people say that this unifying orientation is present in all > major religions. > > Advaita (Nonduality) as a philosophical system has never shown any interest > in influencing the world, etc. as all such things exist only in relationship > to the observer, the actor. Hence the main focus has been to enquire into > the existence and nature of the observer itself who perceives the world. > When the observer disappears, along with it goes the world as well. as > something separate from the observer, oneself. > > Great sages such as Ramana Maharshi have exemplified that compassion and > nonviolence are the natural expressions of Self-Realization. Seeing the same > Awareness in All, one cannot help but spontaneously confirm the uttering of > saints that "Ahimsa Parm Dharma" - that Nonviolence is the Primal Principle. > With that feeling of compassion at the center of our being we can move > freely in accepting others and loving others without regard to what > philosophical system or religion or race or gender they belong to. In my > view that is true Advaita or Nonduality. > > Love to all > Harsha > > > umbada [umbada] > Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:08 AM > nds; hs; iam > [NDS] Future of Nonduality > > This letter speaks about trends in nonduality, about the future of > nonduality, and about the future of Nonduality Salon. > > I detect a trend in the evolution of nonduality email lists. There is a > movement toward specialization. I predict that in the coming year there > will an explosion in the number of nonduality lists as people migrate to > the ones that appeal to their specific interests and to the moderators > that are most appealing to them. > > My vision since May of '98, when the I AM list was started, has been to > see so many email communities created that no one would be able to keep > up with everything. That vision came to pass a good year or so ago. For > example, I to about 60 nonduality email lists; true, some are > dead or half-dead, but I barely scan the rest of them. > > Now there seems to be another wave of nonduality email list formation on > the horizon. I call it the wave of nondual specialization. It's going to > bring in a flood of new people and its going to create distance between > some of us who are very close right now. Like they say: it's all good. > > I predict this trend will precipitate more in-person retreats and more > community interaction. In fact, we are already seeing more of that. In > time, this combination of internet and in-person mingling of nondual > people will influence the consciousness of the world. > > How much time will pass before nondual perspective is as well-known and > understood (if not always applied in life) as something like the Golden > Rule? Probably 400-500 years from now. The reason it will take so long > is that the nonduality phenomenon is largely generational. Most of us > are Baby Boomers. If one accepts that Baby Boomers are those born > between 1937 and 1962, it would include well over 90% of the members on > this list. > > The work we do may not be matched in intensity or in the number of > people involved, for generations. Our entire generation is setting > groundwork for this millenium, and nonduality is simply the cap upon > this spiritual generation. We have to acknowledge everyone from Timothy > Leary to Krishnamurti, from Elvis to Da Free John, from Jack Kerouac to > Gene Poole, from John Coltrane to Byron Katie. This is our generation, > man. I haven't even mentioned anyone yet. > > I don't think there will be too many future generations as intense and > powerful as ours. A few generations, a hundred years or so, may pass > before another generation takes up the torch we now carry. They will > make an impression upon the world. Then another few complacent > generations will come to pass before another generation of nonduality is > born. > > I am also quite sure that the nonduality movement in our generation has > only just begun and we have a long way to go. Our generation will be > around for another 50 years or so, and we will, and are, influencing > many from the upcoming generations. However, nonduality will never burn > as brightly as it is in these days and in the next 50 years during which > time the flame will continue to intensify and climb. > > In time, nonduality will be commonly known and there will even be a > world religion known as nondualism. What that means is that these are > the best of times, because we're not caught up in the -ism. These are > the best of times. And in the days of nondualism as religion, there will > still be small groups like ours and they will talk of the days at the > beginning of the millenium when there was no -ism and everyone was naive > and so celebratory of our simple, simple nature. > > And so, this is a long roundabout way of saying that I am in the process > of creating a few specialty lists. The first one is called NDS-Guru > Talk. I invite anyone and everyone to join. Here's the description: > > This is a place to send reports of Satsang/Guru experiences, and > to announce upcoming Satsangs, retreats, workshops, intensives, > gatherings, discussion groups. > > Also, let us know of any 'new', or little-known nondual > Gurus/teachers. > > Also, if you would simply like to make yourself available to > meet other nondual type people, feel free to let it be known > here. > > Subscribe at NDSgurutalk/join > > There will also be lists on activism, nondual perspectives, The Matrix, > nonduality and marginalization, guiding your children toward the > nondual, and other areas. I invite anyone to start lists on these > subjects before I get to it. The more variety of moderators, the better. > Or start your own list on your own specialty. If you need help starting > a list, let me know! > > Please don't worry about there being too many lists. Don't hold back. > Give your all. Everything will look after itself. Structures and > organization will form in ways we can't see right now. This may all > sound like noise, but I prefer to see these points of activity as lights > that draw all varieties of moths. And I have not lost sight of the > purpose of those lights, which is to burn the moths to death. > > Thanks for listening, > Jerry > http://www.nonduality.com > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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