Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 >> The best healing is natural. The best forgiveness is spontaneous. There is a season for everything. When one is really thirsty, water tastes best. < < Once, a long, long time ago (oh, ah, another story...grin...just pulling my own leg), after going through yet another layer of the onion of my "stuff" and issues around forgiveness of my father, I came to this Holy Instant, where I was given a profound understanding by my Self (it certainly didn't come from me). It was this: If you (Linda) truly "see," then you know there is really no-thing to forgive." This was brief, a flash of dazzling light, and in one instant, I held my father in that space of Unconditional Love. I appreciate being reminded of this because, like Mark of his mentions his impatience with impatience, I am ever having to revisit what seems like old ground (or onion layers), and so I still find myself doing the work of forgiving, even though I have had this amazing realization. Of course, having it and living it in an experience of the truth, moment by moment, are two different things. I believe these flashes come to show me my connection to Eternity, to give me hope, to rally my oh-so-human spirits, and to, even if only briefly, place me in the center of that Axis Mundi which is the Divine. Hologhai ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 .." This was brief, a flash of dazzling light, and in one instant, I held my father in that space of Unconditional Love This feeling of unconditional Love, not always so easy... I've only begun unlayering those onion skin layers you called them... such a perfect analogy.. each layer bringing floods of tears..... memories long long forgotten, and intentionally so to protect myself... Newly aware of these memories... and I ask myself daily..... do I hate my step father......... And I have found that the best I can do, is not really care one way or another.... No hate, no love, just acceptance of our crossing of paths, and know that what was done, was done for a purpose.... His and mine relationship, being the spur in my backside leading me forever forward in the search for truth of who I am.... I hope to one day be able to say 'yes I love him, in spite of it all' Or perhaps its not truly necessary to say it..... Perhaps just accepting the past as part of my chosen path, will allow me to love him unconditionally. Love, Lynette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2001 Report Share Posted March 25, 2001 do I hate my step father......... And I have found that the best I can do, is not really care one way or another.... To hate someone requires so much emotion and energy invested on the part of the hater that it's really just an inefficent use of thought and energy. To hate someone is to give them much more control over your own thoughts and feelings than they ever deserved. Hate just draws you closer to that which you hate. The hardest thing for me to do is to let go of something like that, but it is the best thing to do. No hate, no love, just acceptance of our crossing of paths, and know that what was done, was done for a purpose.... I think that once you reach a point of "no hate / no love" than and only then can you truly love. Allowing someone to experience life as their actions have created it for themselves in the hope that they will learn the lessons they have yet to learn is really love. You can love without being emotionally drawn down into it. At that point, the hate seems to turn into pity, realizing that the hell these people have created for themselves is infinitely worse than anything you could do to try to hurt them. They punish themselves in ways and in depths that no one else could torment them. If they refuse to learn that is their issue. I really think that not involving yourslef in the lives of these idoits is the most damaging thing you can do to them and at the same time prevent the damage they do to themselves and those around them from affecting or victiminzing yourself. His and mine relationship, being the spur in my backside leading me forever forward in the search for truth of who I am.... My relationship with my mother is a spur, but I have learned so much of what I don't want to do or be like that it has now become a benefit. I see her negative example and her self created problems and it inspires me to be a better spouse, father and human being. I'm now thankful for the bad times I've had because of her and my hate has become pity without assistance.I hope to one day be able to say 'yes I love him, in spite of it all' Or perhaps its not truly necessary to say it..... Not for him, but perhaps for yourself. I think it's more beneficial to recognize that you decide the level of influence he has in your life and that you are in control of that, not him. By saying that you "love" him isn't an affirmation of your love, it's an affirmation that he is powerless to affect you or your life unless you allow him, and once he is no longer a threat you no longer feel it necessary to invest so much emotion, time and effort into "hating" him, which is of no benefit to either of you. Perhaps just accepting the past as part of my chosen path, will allow me to love him unconditionally Appreciate your difficult past, it gives you an opportunity to learn so much more than those who have never experienced what you have. We learn the most beneficial things in life from our worst experiences. Look at those who have had no bad times in their lives, they never seem to figure a lot of this stuff out. Look back at what you may have thought at the time to be the worst experiences of your life and realize how they were really just unexpected changes in direction that have benefited your life as it is today. Just my 2.78 cents worth. Thanks. Peace, T /joinAll paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription between digest and normal mode.Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2001 Report Share Posted March 25, 2001 Appreciate your difficult past, it gives you an opportunity to learn so much more than those who have never experienced what you have. We learn the most beneficial things in life from our worst experiences. Look at those who have had no bad times in their lives, they never seem to figure a lot of this stuff out. Look back at what you may have thought at the time to be the worst experiences of your life and realize how they were really just unexpected changes in direction that have benefited your life as it is today. Just my 2.78 cents worth. Thanks. Thank you for your post... It is always nice to feel reconfirmed in the same thoughts one has.... Nothing is coincidence.... And the universal spirit leads us down the paths that most benefit us in the long run... Thank you for your time. Lynette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2001 Report Share Posted March 25, 2001 >> Love and let go... love, forgive, let go... that's important. Open hands, open heart... << Thank you Dharma...all that you said touched me and is true and beautiful. Shanti ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2001 Report Share Posted March 26, 2001 Hi Matt, >Appreciate your difficult past, it gives you an opportunity to learn so much >more than those who have never experienced what you have. We learn the >most beneficial things in life from our worst experiences. Look at those who >have had no bad times in their lives, they never seem to figure a lot of this >stuff out. Look back at what you may have thought at the time to be the >worst experiences of your life and realize how they were really just >unexpected changes in direction that have benefited your life as it is today. This reminds me of an article I read about a man whose horoscope had none of the hard angles, the difficult patterns... just sweetness and light, all trines and sextiles. And he had a pleasant life... had a little money from the family and didn't have to struggle... everything was nice and pleasant... nothing much ever happened. In contrast, the people who are rich and famous because of what they've done (rather than because of their families) have horoscopes that look horrendous, full of heavy patterns with oppositions and squares, real "make or break" stuff. Seems that without the challenges, we don't develop as much. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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