Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 Hi Jerry and Harsha, I've been enjoying your conversation about nonduality and movement. I find the paradox of movement within stillness fascinating. I'm slowly reading Christopher Bache's recent book Dark Night, Early Dawn, inspired by his experiences in nonordinary states of consciousness (holotropic breathwork being one of the techniques for accessing these states). He suggests that the species mind is going through a dark night of the soul analogous to that of the many individuals who have done so and thereby become those sages of which Harsha writes. It's an interesting argument, and I see it dove-tailing with Jerry's intuition of nonduality as a movement. (a movement not away from something, but towards something) Anyway, Bache writes: "The paradox of transpersonal development is also the paradox of human evolution. It takes a strong individuality to surrender the ego and to endure the impact of transcendence without fragmenting. The forging of this strong center has been the patriarchal project for four thousand years. The trajectory of this phase of our cultural evolution has been to form us into highly differentiated, self-critical, self-empowered individuals - individuals who can evaluate and set aside centuries of tradition if we see fit, who can outgrow and remake ourselves at an unbelievable pace, jumping from the sand dunes of Kitty Hawk to the moon in less than seventy years. Only now as this phase is concluding do we begin to glimpse the larger arch (sic) that this patriarchal segment is part of. In our long isolation from the Goddess, under the tutelage of our many Father-Gods, there has been gestating within us a strength of form that will allow humanity to withstand the assault of such unitive splendor as few can imagine. Ahead lies a degree of incarnation of the Divine Impulse that would have shattered us at an earlier stage in our evolutionary development. I believe that this divine marriage of Individuality and Essential Ground, of the Masculine and Feminine, of samsara and nirvana is the dawn that humanity's dark night is driving toward. This is the dawn that, if successfully navigated, will unite humankind and elevate us into a form that has never before walked this Earth: a humanity healed of the scars of history, its ancient partitions reabsorbed; a people with new capacities born in the chaos of near-extinction. Only when we have made this pivot, when our long labor has birthed this future Child, only then will we understand what we have accomplished. And when this moment finally comes, I deeply believe that, like all mothers before us, we will count our pain a small price. This birth is our gift to the Creator." So that is Bache's take on this time in history. For me, the same thing is being said by Nisargadatta in I Am That: "To know itself, the self must be faced with its opposite - the not-self. Desire leads to experience. Experience leads to discrimination, detachment, self-knowledge - liberation. And what is liberation after all? To know that you are beyond birth and death. By forgetting who you are and imagining yourself a mortal creature, you created so much trouble for yourself that you have to wake up, like from a bad dream." So, I see Jerry speaking of the waking up and Harsha reminding us of the ever-presence of wakefulness. Thank you both. Love, Meric, or Maric, or someone such as this... Hi Harsha, Thank you for this grounding message. Since coming to the Internet, I've been interested in nonduality as a movement. Your grounding message goes beyond trends and movements and points to what's eternal. Love, Jerry http://www.nonduality.com Harsha wrote: > Thanks for your message Jerry. Advaita (Nonduality) is revitalized in every > generation by the Sages who live in Awareness. > (etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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