Joyce/Namaste to all...

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Dear Joyce,

 

, "Joyce Short" <insight@s...> wrote:

> Joyce: Sometimes definate, sometimes indefinite, I can have both.

> Glad you have arrived, what does the scenery look like? The wheel

> does turn - unless you now "see" no "others?"

 

A wilderness appears. Each tree is infinitely important -- without

it there would be no forest. Each tree is also infinitely

unimportant -- the falling of one tree does not affect the

forest. "Myself" or a body/mind -- a tree -- is 'in there' with the

other trees, in no specific location.

 

The wheel, as seen from here, is to imagine a tree, "myself," as the

center of the forest... without which the forest would collapse.

> Joyce: And so you say the same for "Tim"? - yet I sensed a kind of

> an apology -like Im not what once I was ,what some one may have

> thought when encountering me before so please forget all that etc.

 

The reason I said what I did is I've occasionally encountered people

who hold grudges for things I've said in the past. Grudges baffle me

completely. But this is unimportant, since we've just met and if

you're going to "build a mental image of 'me'" it begins now (I'm not

suggesting you will).

> Joyce: you mean a glorious moment of mood, a brief burst of

> glorious anger, some glorious muddle?

 

Sure, why not? There is always something beyond, sort of watching

with tender affection and a sort of humor.

> And while you communcicate to others on this list you don't take

> words seriously?

 

If the situation calls for words to be 'taken seriously', they'll be

taken seriously... but truly, any extended seriousness seems silly.

What's there to be serious about? Life is a leela, a play.

> Joyce: But not empty for moods and brief bursts of anger?

 

Moods arise. What do you suggest, that they be suppressed? Who

would do such a thing?

> Joyce: Yes, Dan is so pithy, but we don't take words seriously now,

> alas. And I don't know anything about "Realization" so can't say

> anything about it, perhaps you can since you do know? Wots "it"?

 

It's you.

> "Just what is IT?"

> Where is "here?"

 

Wherever it is, I suppose :-). Here, you know.

 

Love,

 

Tim