not true./Mark

[Guest guest]

Hello Mark,

 

The idea of meeting you, remembering you, laughing and talking with you and

empathizing with you brings me a very psychological and human joy. Right

here, right now, I feel what you are saying here. I love you, and love the

honesty and openness you bring wherever you go. There is no one like you,

and I love you.

 

Not speaking for Harsha here, but the Bliss, Perfection I speak of resides

in S/He who witnesses life and humanity with all the often horrible stuff

occurring with the body, mind, intellect, emotions. It is the seeing of

it, the being of it, not the specific featueres of it. This Bliss is as

though one step behind the stuff-stuff, and supports it as like a

container. There is nothing, no matter how yucky and horrible, which is

incompatible with it. This is exactly why nothing is left out, nothing is

inappropriate, no thought or conversation or offering is unwelcome.

 

So as far as I'm concerned, please, offer, share, dump. I want to be there

for you.

 

Love,

 

--Greg

 

At 12:24 PM 4/3/01 -0500, Mark Otter wrote:

>Dear Harsha,

>

>This is not true. I've been pretty depressed these past two weeks -

>even to the point of suicidal ideation. I don't know when Michael is or

>is not feeling joy, but I doubt very much that my mood exactly mirrors

>his. (I certainly do wish for him and for all of you to feel joy, and

>when you communicate joy to me, I am empathetic about it, so by all

>means, please express joy - it lifts my spirits.) You mention that

>"a focuses on the aspirations and experiences of

>individuals on the spiritual path." Do you mean to limit the focus to

>positive aspirations and experiences, or are negative aspirations and

>experiences worthy of discussion as well?

>

>In comradeship on the spiritual journey,

>Mark

>ps I don't mean by my post to imply any judgement of you or any other

>member of the list, or to imply any consistency of attitude on my part.

>I'm just inquiring into the implications of your communiques about the

>purpose of the list for posts which focus on negative experiences, or

>use negative language, or generate negative experiences.

>

>Everyone is doing just fine Michael.

>

> When you are in joy, all are in joy.

>

> You remind me of that guy who went around saying to

>everyone,

>

> "I am blissful! Are you blissful?" :-).

>

> Harsha

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>/join

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perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is

Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality

of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge,

spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to

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[Guest guest]

HI Greg,

 

Thank you. You are a kind man, and a very pleasant person to spend time

with. You are the only person at the summer retreat last year that I

felt like asking the question "Do you still suffer". You said no. wow.

 

I'm not in the same place, but I believe your answer. (I don't believe

that of many here. but who cares what I believe, other than me?) I can

see that belief is a flimsy pole on which to hang one's hat.

 

Love, Mark

ps I love you too. (have ever since I laid eyes on you - great grin!!!!)

 

 

 

Hello Mark,

 

The idea of meeting you, remembering you, laughing and

talking with you and

empathizing with you brings me a very psychological and

human joy. Right

here, right now, I feel what you are saying here. I

love you, and love the

honesty and openness you bring wherever you go. There

is no one like you,

and I love you.

 

Not speaking for Harsha here, but the Bliss, Perfection

I speak of resides

in S/He who witnesses life and humanity with all the

often horrible stuff

occurring with the body, mind, intellect, emotions. It

is the seeing of

it, the being of it, not the specific featueres of it.

This Bliss is as

though one step behind the stuff-stuff, and supports it

as like a

container. There is nothing, no matter how yucky and

horrible, which is

incompatible with it. This is exactly why nothing is

left out, nothing is

inappropriate, no thought or conversation or offering

is unwelcome.

 

So as far as I'm concerned, please, offer, share,

dump. I want to be there

for you.

 

Love,

 

--Greg